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There is a lot of talk out here in the desert
Sep 26, 2019, 1:39 PM
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about ASU and Herm Edwards being a "CEO" style head coach. One could argue that most successful head coaches , both NFL and college, are more or less CEO style managers. They hire good coaching talent and let them do their jobs. Dabo fits that profile. The level of discussion (with some suggesting that it is a bad thing, and that Edwards is a rah rah, hands off guy - sound familiar? - ) and suggested controversy about it has surprises me. Not suggesting Edwards is a good or bad hire, just that I think it's a given that a successful coach today has to have a CEO style skill set.
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Dabo is more than a CEO
Sep 26, 2019, 1:43 PM
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Very involved in all aspects of the team, from recruiting to preparation and coaching, to in-game decisions
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Re: Dabo is more than a CEO
Sep 26, 2019, 1:47 PM
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Agree ! but he no doubt has off the charts organizational and managerial skills, as well.
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Preach! +1***
Sep 26, 2019, 2:36 PM
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We are very fortunate that Dabo
Sep 26, 2019, 2:55 PM
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We are very fortunate that Dabo decided he wanted to coach football. We are even more fortunate that he did it at Clemson,
Make No mistake. Dabo would end up in the top echelon of what every "business" he chose to run. He checks all the boxes on almost any management skills list.
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Re: There is a lot of talk out here in the desert
Sep 26, 2019, 1:48 PM
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I agree. Their job is much more than XS and Os. As a matter of fact, a smart head coach will hire coordinators and assistants who know and create the playbooks, while the head man is looking at the big picture years down the road, recruiting, developing, facilities, media, brand, community, administrative stuff, etc. I know there is someone out there like that, just can't seem to recall the name. 
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Re: There is a lot of talk out here in the desert
Sep 26, 2019, 1:57 PM
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I think Dabo is a leader - period.
He has a clear vision of what he wants to accomplish and how he wants to accomplish it.
He has the communication skills to convey that to all levels of the program from Fans to Coaches to BOD.
He has the personal habits/work ethic/integrity/philosophy to live that vision in a way that inspires others to do the same.
He has the genuine people skills that allow him to live moment by moment so that it never appears as "work"
The style is unique to him and I would hesitate to label it CEO vs hands on or whatever because it seems to me that it is all encompassing in that he understands when to get involved and when to get out of the way. But after having spent the time and effort on the actions listed above, the momentum of the effort starts to become self fulfilling.
You hear the players echoing the words that take them down the path of what Dabo has taught so that they teach the next group of recruits. You hear from the coaching staff. YOu are starting to hear from other coaches in College and Pro league.
We are in the middle of something very special.
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Re: There is a lot of talk out here in the desert
Sep 26, 2019, 2:03 PM
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Agreed.
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I believe Dabo knows that game is involved heavily in
Sep 26, 2019, 1:59 PM
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the decision making process including overriding the other coaches often
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Re: There is a lot of talk out here in the desert
Sep 26, 2019, 2:02 PM
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It was known from the start Edwards is a CEO type of coach. The question was whether he had the cred to attract good assistants and could he relate to college players and recruit. My initial thought was ASU made a huge mistake.
Last year they competed in every game. Props to him for that.
They probably finish 7-5 again and make a bowl game. A reasonable ASU fan has to be OK with that.
Anybody know how their recruiting is going? That should tell the story of where the program is headed under Edwards.
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To me, 'CEO' indicates someone who delegates pretty
Sep 26, 2019, 2:17 PM
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much everything and doesn't have much of a hand in supervising the subordinates below the delegation. Dabo is way more than that. He does delegate and let his coaches do their job, but it's all by his plan, his vision, and his oversight. He knows EVERYTHING that's going on in his program and he's created a culture of trust and family, not to mention winning, that affords him the credibility to do it his way. 'CEO' is almost an insult where Dabo is concerned. He's much more tuned in and hands on than any CEO I've ever know, and a better leader, too.
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Every successful big program coach IS a "CEO" style coach..
Sep 26, 2019, 3:26 PM
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I get a little flustered every time I hear folks try to say Dabo is a CEO coach because what they are ultimately trying to convey is that Dabo is not an "x's and o's" kind of guy who doesn't really understand the nuances of the offense and defense he is overseeing as "CEO". Nothing could be farther from the truth.
First off, anyone who doesn't think Dabo is knowledgeable of the "x's and o's" of the game fail to recognize Dabo's background and coaching history. He has studied the game in depth since being a grad assistant at Alabama and continued to study the game as young assistant coach all the way through his time as a head coach. Dabo knew the exact type of offense and defense he wanted for Clemson and went out and hired the guys to run the exact scheme he wanted. It's not like he had no clue and just went on a blind coaching search without any idea of what these guys were bringing to Clemson.
If you look at all the successful head coaches of big programs - they are all CEO's of their organizations. These coaches provide the vision, leadership, and culture that becomes the signature of their program. Additionally, they must be able to handle the media, administration, and the million other things that come along with being the head coach of a big football program. Just because a coach is a CEO does not mean he is incapable or not involved in the teaching, coaching, and in depth discussion of the "x's and o's of the teams offense and defense. You can bet the house that these CEO coaches know the "x's and o's" as well or better than anyone on their staff because if they don't they will not be successful.
Successful CEO's know everything about everything in their organization - down to the most minute details. What they are also good at is NOT micro-managing those minute details and allowing the subordinates (i.e. coordinators/asst coaches) to have freedom of action within the CEO's parameters to do their jobs without having the CEO getting in the way.
The head coaches who typically fail at big programs are the ones who can't step back from being a coordinator in addition to the head coach. These guys ultimately loose focus on the bigger program aspects and their lack of delegation and supervisory skills end up being their undoing.
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