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At least Shyatt got us to an NIT Final.
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At least Shyatt got us to an NIT Final.


Feb 21, 2017, 9:28 PM

This is brutal. Hate it for Brownell, just isn't working out. Time for a new vision and fresh start.

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Brownell will make $5.2 million dollars in the next month or


Feb 21, 2017, 9:32 PM

or so if he is let go.

Money that go to a more worthy Clemson cause.

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Re: Brownell will make $5.2 million dollars in the next month or


Feb 21, 2017, 9:33 PM

I guess the question is how much money will we lose by not ripping this bandaid off quickly. Cause it has to come off.

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The die was cast two years ago. He should have been let go


Feb 21, 2017, 9:36 PM

last year. We are now entering knucklehead AD territory.

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Re: Brownell will make $5.2 million dollars in the next month or


Feb 21, 2017, 9:36 PM [ in reply to Re: Brownell will make $5.2 million dollars in the next month or ]

believe his buyout is $3-3.5 mil... not $5.2

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Clemson isn't going to pay his buyout in one


Feb 21, 2017, 9:45 PM [ in reply to Brownell will make $5.2 million dollars in the next month or ]

Lump sum payment and Brownell isn't going to want that either. That would be just giving money away to the tax man.

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thats not how it works but thanks for playing***


Feb 21, 2017, 10:09 PM [ in reply to Brownell will make $5.2 million dollars in the next month or ]



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If we fire him, we will have payed him $1.7 million for this


Feb 22, 2017, 7:50 AM

year and we will owe him $3.5 million for firing him. That's a total of $5.2 million dollars.

That's how it works.

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Re: If we fire him, we will have payed him $1.7 million for this


Feb 22, 2017, 10:44 AM

A) he's already been paid most of his salary for the 2016-17 season.

B) the buyout for the 2017-18 season is $3 million, not $3.5 million. You pay the buyout to avoid the remaining salary on his contract which totals $5.7 million through the 2019-2020 season.

So no, he will not "make $5.2 million in the next month." Even the buyout will be paid over time. So basically nothing in your original assertion is true.

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$1.7 in salary plus $3.5 million equals $5.2 million.


Feb 22, 2017, 11:10 AM

He will have earned 1.7 million this year. If we fire him next month, he will be due another $3.5 million, as per his contract. That's $5.2 million he will have earned by the end of next month. You are just splitting hairs for the sake of argument and you are wrong about the buyout.

http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2014/6/2/5750722/brad-brownell-contract-extension-my-extended-thoughts

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Re: $1.7 in salary plus $3.5 million equals $5.2 million.


Feb 22, 2017, 12:59 PM

I'm not splitting hairs - it's not what you said. You're changing it now. $1.7 million is already spent so is completely irrelevant to any discussion of the financial consequences of releasing him. And I'm not wrong about the buyout - the buyout is for the corresponding season. To buyout this season would have been $3.5. To buyout 17-18 is $3. I don't know why so many people on here struggle with this. From the article you link d:

2014 - 15 $ 1.55 $ 5.00 $ 1.50
2015 - 16 $ 1.65 $ 5.00 $ 1.50
2016 - 17 $ 1.70 $ 3.50 $ 1.00
2017 - 18 $ 1.80 $ 3.00 $ 0.90
2018 - 19 $ 1.90 $ 3.00 $ 0.50
2019 - 20 $ 2.00 $ -

$3.5 was for 16-17
$3 is the buyout if he is terminated between 17-19
The lack of a buyout in 2019-20 is a misnomer - he is due his full salary of $2 million. No negotiated buyout doesn't mean he doesn't get paid. To interpret it any other way makes no sense. You wouldn't pay a $3 million buyout at the end of 18-19 to pay out a contract with a full face value of only $2 million left.

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The NIT is meaningless.*****


Feb 21, 2017, 9:32 PM



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that's a meaningless stat...


Feb 21, 2017, 9:33 PM

Shyatt was an idiot

who could only coach when he had Larry Nance's son.

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Re: that's a meaningless stat...


Feb 21, 2017, 9:34 PM

Kinda my point.

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I think you miss the point , Shyatt is meaningless


Feb 21, 2017, 9:38 PM

and therefore so was your post.

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Re: I think you miss the point , Shyatt is meaningless


Feb 21, 2017, 9:39 PM

Woooooshhhhh right over your head.

Both coaches are meaningless because they both aren't any good.

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Like our ACC record over the last 6 years.***


Feb 21, 2017, 9:34 PM [ in reply to that's a meaningless stat... ]



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until this year BB's record was better than Purnell's


Feb 21, 2017, 9:37 PM

oh yeah...

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Exactly. Another meaningless stat.


Feb 21, 2017, 9:39 PM

Confirmed by the fact(s) that the tournament committee thought it was meaningless as well.

For some reason, the tournament committees loved them some OP accomplishments, but are not at all fond of BB's.

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you're the one who first referred to the ACC record


Feb 21, 2017, 9:40 PM

over the last 6 years,

dumb-arse.

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Never walk behind a mule again.


Feb 21, 2017, 9:42 PM

On second thought, maybe you should.

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Re: until this year BB's record was better than Purnell's


Feb 21, 2017, 9:40 PM [ in reply to until this year BB's record was better than Purnell's ]

Come on man. You can't be serious in wanting to keep him. Forget acc record and look at these late game situations. It's not just happening once or twice. It's happened multiple times this season.

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Hey now! Larry got us...


Feb 21, 2017, 9:39 PM [ in reply to that's a meaningless stat... ]

Pasha Bains.

And for that I'll be eternally grateful!

~JKB

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Re: Hey now! Larry got us...


Feb 21, 2017, 9:44 PM

Pasha was a God...compared with David Potter.

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Re: that's a meaningless stat...


Feb 21, 2017, 10:18 PM [ in reply to that's a meaningless stat... ]

You prove over and over that you are the dumbest poster on this entire board and that is a significant accomplishment. Shyatt has two NCAA championship rings as an assistant to Billy Donovan - fairly objectively considered one of the best ever. Loved enough by Wyoming to be hired twice. And currently working in the NBA for the Mavericks - one of the better franchises in the league. No, it didn't work here but he only got 5 seasons to Brownell's 7. Made an NIT final and beat the number #1 team in the country. It takes an incredible amount of cognitive dissonance to praise Brownell yet bash Shyatt.

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with Barnes' players***


Feb 21, 2017, 9:39 PM



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shyatt did less with more***


Feb 21, 2017, 10:03 PM



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1st round NCAA tournament loss is > NIT Championship


Feb 21, 2017, 10:32 PM

NIT Bid = 0

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pretty sure that was with barnes's leftovers***


Feb 21, 2017, 11:26 PM



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Re: At least Shyatt got us to an NIT Final.


Feb 21, 2017, 11:36 PM

The "Not In Tournament" tournament .

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DB23


Re: At least Shyatt got us to an NIT Final.


Feb 22, 2017, 11:19 AM

> The "Not In Tournament" tournament .

"Not Important Tournament"

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yeah, with an NCAA Tourney team loaded with SRs...Brad


Feb 22, 2017, 11:11 AM

would have taken that team to the Dance

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Totally Agree.


Feb 22, 2017, 1:08 PM

All you have to do is look at the last 30 seconds of both halves of last night's game. I fully support Clemson, the team, and the players. But Brownell has to go.

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