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Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5
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Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 2:14 PM

 
Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5

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Cordarelle Patterson over Nuk?


Mar 31, 2013, 2:23 PM

I get that Patterson is big and very fast, but come on! The guy can't run routes to save his life. Nuk is a more complete WR.


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You can teach people to run routes


Mar 31, 2013, 2:27 PM

You can't teach people to be big and fast.

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That's very true.


Mar 31, 2013, 2:54 PM

I guess my point is that Nuk is already big and fast and can run routes. He's more ready to go and should, therefore, be in the top 5. But hey, how accurate are these top-5 lists anyway?

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Nuk is neither big nor fast by NFL standards.


Mar 31, 2013, 9:33 PM

nm

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If that's the case....


Apr 1, 2013, 7:56 PM

Ace Sanders better start updating his résumé!

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And some people are just good football players, who


Mar 31, 2013, 4:26 PM [ in reply to You can teach people to run routes ]

consistently produce on the field where and when it counts, regardless of their measurables, while players with fantastic measurables fail or struggle every year.

It would be very convenient for analysts and even coaches to be able to look at a spreadsheet and say who the best players are going to be, but if they look at a WR, for example, and they are consistently getting open and making catches on all types of routes against very good competition, it would seem that would carry much more weight.

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Sorry but if you haven't learned how to run routes by...


Mar 31, 2013, 4:37 PM [ in reply to You can teach people to run routes ]

the end of your college career then you won't learn how to in the NFL. Perfect example, Troy Williamson. All the speed in the world but ran terrible routes

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Patterson has only had 1 year of actual college coaching


Mar 31, 2013, 7:12 PM

He was a JuCo and then involved in the Tennessee train wreck.

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Good thing Sam Eagle doesn't work for any NFL team...***


Mar 31, 2013, 2:32 PM



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Re: Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 2:48 PM

Let's be sure to review this after NUK wins Offensive ROY and mockingly laugh at Kiper!

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Re: Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 3:26 PM

Kiper is a complete idiot!

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There is a reason Why Kiper has never played


Mar 31, 2013, 3:39 PM

or coached football.

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^^^^Bingo^^^^


Mar 31, 2013, 3:51 PM

Dude is never right.

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Re: ^^^^Bingo^^^^


Mar 31, 2013, 4:03 PM

Even the coaches and GM's are left scratching their heads after their first round picks don't pan out. None the less, I will put more stock in their opinions than Kipers. He gets all his info second hand peeping on their conversations at the combines and Pro Days.

Lastly, best analysis I have heard is that he is the most pro ready receover in the class, (thanks coach Scott), but does not have the highest ceiling in the opinion of most. That is not to say that his work ethic and drive will not make him a pro-bowler one day, he is just a touch slower and shorter than a couple of the other guys in this class. Jerry Rice was not the most athletic receiver either, bu his production between the whistles was all that mattered in the end.

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Re: Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 4:13 PM

Mel Kiper does not make my top 5 at his position

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Big deal - none of the NFL teams make their draft......


Mar 31, 2013, 4:24 PM

decisions because of what Mel Kiper says - they'll evaluate Nuk themselves.

He'll go 1st round.

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Didn't Mel Kiper say that Jimmy Clausen was going to be a...


Mar 31, 2013, 4:37 PM

good QB?

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Kiper is a idiot


Mar 31, 2013, 4:43 PM

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Re: Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 5:04 PM

If Kiper was to pick all the players for any super bowl winning team. They would NEVER win another Super Bowl!!!

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KipeR picking players....


Mar 31, 2013, 6:10 PM

> If Kiper was to pick all the players for any super
> bowl winning team. They would NEVER win another Super
> Bowl!!!

Frankly, if he were picking any players, ther would never be a Super Bowl.

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Re: Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 6:12 PM

this means he should have stayed for his senior year

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Re: Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 7:10 PM

Sorry but there is no way he should've stayed for his senior season. The truth is they are obsessed with Watkins to the point of it being a detriment. If Hopkins came back and Sammy stays healthy he wouldn't get the ball thrown his way enough to make an near the impact he did this season. The entire game plan in the Chick-Fil-A bowl was going to be centered around Sammy. When he got hurt it gave Nuk a chance to shine on a grand stage. I don't think he would get that chance this season if he stayed.

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Those are all good WRs, but Nuk is in that top 5 easy.***


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I'd even make the argument Nuk is in that top 3 or even


Mar 31, 2013, 6:28 PM

vying to be the best of that bunch. No way Nuk takes a backseat to anyone, regardless of how good Tavon, etc. are. They're all good but just saying.

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Don't beat around the bush.


Mar 31, 2013, 7:02 PM

None of them could have had 178 yrs receiving against LSU with somebody holding them every play.

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Re: Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 7:14 PM

Mel Kiper is an ### hat. How is it that every other team has him valued as a late 1st round pick and Kiper won't put him in his top 5? He will eat his words when Nuk blows up in the NFL.

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Re: Football Player Update: Nuk Hopkins does not make Kiper's top 5


Mar 31, 2013, 7:20 PM

Mel Kiper Jr., the same guy who said "Mike Williams is the best player in the 2005 Draft, I'll see you at his Hall of Fame induction."

That same draft produced Alex Smith, DeMarcus Ware, Aaron Rogers, Roddy, White, Heath Miller, Nick Collins, Logan Mankins, Frank Gore, Vincent Jackson, Justin Tuck and Josh Cribbs. How did that work out Mel? The guy isn't even in the league anymore.

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I don't get it


Mar 31, 2013, 7:24 PM

everyone wants to say Nuk is too slow, but then they put up Tavon Austin who is all off 5'8" and you never hear about that.

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Brad Brownell: more losses than any other coach in school history.


I like Nuk I think he is going to be an excellent NFL player


Mar 31, 2013, 9:59 PM

He is an excellent athlete, but he lacks a stand out physical skill. He has average size and average speed (in terms of NFL WR, not real people). He will get drafted, and he will do well, but he doesn't grade out as a game breaker. Best case, he is the next Anquan Boldin.

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Nuk will prove him wrong on the field***


Mar 31, 2013, 10:54 PM

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While this might hurt Nuk initially


Mar 31, 2013, 11:24 PM

We all know that he will prove to be one of the best in the end.

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If he's right then that puts him in the 4th or 5th round?


Apr 1, 2013, 8:23 AM

Maybe the Panthers could pick him up late then. Just as long as the panthers get him. They need some gamers on offense other than Steve Smith.

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KIPER IS FULL OF IT...


Apr 1, 2013, 12:17 PM

Nuk is one of if not THE best WR coming out this year, hands down.

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Hopkins is gonna miss out on big $$$$...


Apr 1, 2013, 1:49 PM

should have played senior year

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