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TNET: ESPN's Herbstreit drops Clemson in rankings

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:11 PM
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ESPN's Herbstreit drops Clemson in rankings

ESPN lead college football analyst Kirk Herbstreit dropped Clemson two spots in his rankings after Saturday's close call at UNC. Herbstreit has Ohio State as hi Read Update »



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I can't really blame him.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:17 PM
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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:26 PM
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Lmao.

We’ve won 20 fckn games in a row...and we still get disrespect.

This happens ever year. Lol

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:32 PM
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And what about yesterday’s performance is deserving of respect by the rest of the college football world? You have to earn the respect of others. Don’t think we did that yesterday.

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Ummm, they WON!!!

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:34 PM
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Alabama would never have been dropped as long as THEY won. I hope Clemson rips the heads off of every opponent from here on out.
This is horseshiite...

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It’s a win. If it was Bama in the same situation they would be praising them***

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 2:10 PM
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This team has won only 5 in a row.***


Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:37 PM
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Re: This team has won only 5 in a row.***


Posted: Sep 29, 2019 2:08 PM
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Exactly! I agree with the drop. We are not the #1 team right now. Like Dabo says, we gotta learn from it and get better but to say we should not drop because of 15 games before this season isn’t realistic. Polls don’t count until November. We gotta keep getting better.


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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 5:55 PM
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What we done last year don't count for 1/100th of a point for this years team, this is a new team that don't and should not get any credit from what last years team done, and that's the name of that tune with every team!!!

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Why would Herbie or anyone rate us for THIS yr


Posted: Sep 29, 2019 5:56 PM
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based primarily on 20 games in a row dating back to last year? Through five games, Alabama, OSU, and Georgia look better. Gee whiz, it's not a personal insult that someone things we're not always the best.


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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 6:51 PM
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Yes it is, and if you don't take it personal you probably think Gamecocks winning is good for the state.

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^^ Idiot comment ^^


Posted: Sep 30, 2019 1:56 PM
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Yeah that's pretty lame. Your argument sucks so now I'm a gamecock. Get a grip. Herbie sent his boys to Clemson, and yet, we are to assume that dropping us is a personal insult. Is your IQ even a positive number?


Of course, the required 50% of the top 10

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:33 PM
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from the SEC

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All legit except UF ***


Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:36 PM
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I don’t really get Bama and tOSU

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:39 PM
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Neither one has played anyone. All they do is run up the score on nobodies. LSU and UGA at least both have top 10 wins. Guess we have to start hanging 70 on the Charlotte’s of the world. I mean yesterday was a fiasco for us and I’m fine not being #1, but I just feel like they always look for a reason to elevate Bama and the Buckeyes. The Buckeyes will eliminate themselves as usual though somewhere in conference play.


and we havent played anyone either


Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:00 PM
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our best output was against a high school team


Yeah you keep saying that over and over


Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:17 PM
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So if that’s true then nobody should change position right?


just stating a fact


Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:38 PM
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we have looked lack luster against lesser comp..they have looked fine tuned against lesser comp.


that is all i hear today is clemson has not played anyone


Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:44 PM
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we do not belong in the top 5 crap like this really makes me angry.

what we have here is a complete lack of respect of clemson football and the acc.

go tigers.


OVER-REACTION

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 12:39 PM
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Man,

it's like some folks forget that some weeks teams have less than stellar performances...the ONLY team I can remember in recent memory that appeared to have gone through the season unscathed and actually blowing out opponents was 'Bama last year - and we all know how that turned out in January of 2019 :)

I mean, I GUESS we need something to talk about during the season if we're not covering the spread - I mean, people are READY to throw out that C-term for derogatory reasons rather than what we've come to know it as lately: winning big games and championships!

Overall, I'm not delusional - I do think that team performances like last night would result in an L at some point if they cannot get consistent on offense.

For now though...win is a win and if Clemson handles its business they are going to the playoffs.


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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:08 PM
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Well said. No one wins a natty in September. Heisman yes but not a natty.

Nebraska was way over hyped. Tarholes would beat a lot of teams yesterday. I'm certain they didn't game plan against app st. From day 1 macks had the Clemson game circled.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:09 PM
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Man,

it's like some folks forget that some weeks teams have less than stellar performances...the ONLY team I can remember in recent memory that appeared to have gone through the season unscathed and actually blowing out opponents was 'Bama last year - and we all know how that turned out in January of 2019 <img border=">

I mean, I GUESS we need something to talk about during the season if we're not covering the spread - I mean, people are READY to throw out that C-term for derogatory reasons rather than what we've come to know it as lately: winning big games and championships!

Overall, I'm not delusional - I do think that team performances like last night would result in an L at some point if they cannot get consistent on offense.

For now though...win is a win and if Clemson handles its business they are going to the playoffs.


I think you’re wrong. If we win out, playing poorly on offense like we did yesterday we may get left out. Our marquee win is A&M and they aren’t looking very good themselves.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 6:33 PM
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It's not the lowering of Clemson in the polls that's an overreaction, it's the reaction to that that's an overreaction. No one who's dropping Clemson is withdrawing all respect for us, they're simply assessing what they've seen thus far, relative to other teams. And frankly, what Clemson did on offense (or didn't do) yesterday in Chapel Hill was manifest to a lesser degree in other games this year - only this time, Clemson never really "woke up" later in the game (ala Syracuse after the slow start). It's not the end of the world that Clemson's offense sputters at times, but it's also not the end of the world that pundits notice and react accordingly. What are they supposed to do? Rank Clemson higher simply b/c we won the nat'l championship last year? Is it all that absurd to conclude that OSU and/or Bama look better through four games?


Not absurd but unrealistic since neither has

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 6:42 PM
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beaten a ranked opponent yet. The narrative sounds good until facts are actually presented as other people have posted today...such as our comparative SOS and a comparison of our own performance this year stats-wise compared to past years. The narrative is mostly all eye test stuff that we go through every year whether it’s OSU, Oklahoma, ND or others. It all gets sorted out and exposed in the end.


But it's not about


Posted: Sep 30, 2019 1:55 PM
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it's not about Clemson '19 vs. Clemson in past years. Rankings are all relative to other teams, no team, Clemson included deserves some presumption of keeping their place unless they undershoot their prior year's stats. And there's no guarantee that this year will pan out as other years have either - I hope it does, but those ranking teams are under no obligation to make such assumptions.


Obviously Herbie does not respect UNC

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:08 PM
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He bases everything off the idea that all the mid tier and up SEC teams are great. UNC has lost to 3 unbeaten teams. Who knows, maybe they’re good. He thinks Florida is good. Florida who barely escaped that Kentucky team I saw last night. Florida who struggled with the same Miami team that UNC also beat. Last year he was so enamored of Bama he ridiculously argued UGA should get in CFP with 2 losses because they played Bama close. This is the SEC math.


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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:16 PM
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dagummit said:

He bases everything off the idea that all the mid tier and up SEC teams are great. UNC has lost to 3 unbeaten teams. Who knows, maybe they’re good. He thinks Florida is good. Florida who barely escaped that Kentucky team I saw last night. Florida who struggled with the same Miami team that UNC also beat. Last year he was so enamored of Bama he ridiculously argued UGA should get in CFP with 2 losses because they played Bama close. This is the SEC math.


As a professional sportscaster, Herbie has long buried any homer bias. Remember, he had to get out of Columbus and move to Nashville in order to escape the wrath of his own home fans. He provides better unbiased analysis than just about anyone.

Maybe this team has yet to earn respect.

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I thought he had buried the tOSU homerism

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:38 PM
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a few years ago after the playoff debacle but I think it has maybe reared its ugly head again. I mean I can’t blame him since he played there but there’s no way Ohio State is #1. I’ll continue to believe that until they win a game that matters and prove me wrong.


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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:41 PM
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As he should. We are top 10, but 1 is a joke AT THIS STAGE.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 6:02 PM
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You're right, and I truly don't understand why anybody could have a problem with the ranking, #2 is really stretching it for the team I saw play yesterday. I cross my heart and hope to die before I could honestly say that I saw a #2 team play against UNCheat, and if it had of been Bama or who ever is in the top 5, we would be screaming that they don't belong in the top 5!!!

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Herbstreit, you just disrespected your kids’ team.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:42 PM
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Don’t expect anything from them at Christmas.

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 1:43 PM
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Tackling fuel!

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 2:12 PM
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I disagree with dropping us 2 places. I think to number 2. I mean we did win the game. These sports media people! Kirk is an Ohio State homer.


Extra laps for the Herbstreit boys this week in practice

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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 2:14 PM
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Posted: Sep 29, 2019 6:49 PM
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Wouldn't expect nothing else from that guy.

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