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TNET: Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings


Posted: May 2, 2019 12:45 PM
 

 
Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings

CBS Sports released its yearly tiered coaching rankings and Clemson's Dabo Swinney moved up a spot after capturing his second national title in three seasons. S Read Update »



Is the National Championship game not considered


Posted: May 2, 2019 12:49 PM
 

a “playoff bowl win”?

I think we have 5 of those wins, not 3.

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Re: Is the National Championship game not considered


Posted: May 2, 2019 2:34 PM
 

The "SEC on CBS" right? My guess it is in CBS's contract to not record Bammy's defeats.


Re: Is the National Championship game not considered

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Posted: May 2, 2019 3:53 PM
 

They break it down to hinder the significance, and that is called, keep them behind Saban and the SEC type!!! The sec fans can not explain the difference of the sec type other than they taller, bigger, and faster. Just ask them where they get that from when the sec recruits the very same players as everyone else, and all they can say is that the sec gets the best ones, and Clemson is like an sec school. So I guess that means that we also have the sec type players!!!

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Re: Is the National Championship game not considered

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Posted: May 2, 2019 4:13 PM
 

I think the NC counts as a playoff win, but I believe that some still only consider the first round as a bowl game, and separate those from the NC game when figuring bowl records.


Re: Is the National Championship game not considered


Posted: May 3, 2019 10:18 AM
 

This is my thought too - 2003 .....

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Has anyone ever seen Dabo panic like Saban did


Posted: May 3, 2019 8:42 AM
 

in the NC game?

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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings


Posted: May 2, 2019 1:01 PM
 

Dumpchamp's jury is still out ?
Somebody check their chambers ... they may have climbed out a window .

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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings


Posted: May 2, 2019 2:18 PM
 

There's bars on their windows. No need to worry about them jumping out.

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Posted: May 2, 2019 1:10 PM
 

Imagine how good we would be if we had Saban as head coach. We would have won 1 out of the last 3 National Championships. That would have been so great.

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Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings


Posted: May 2, 2019 1:18 PM
 

Yeah, but Saban sold his personality to Satan to get those advantages. So he had an unfair advantage.

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Kirby Smart ends up #5...

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Posted: May 2, 2019 1:21 PM
 

I wonder where he stood with only 3 quarters of the votes counted.

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Re: Where he stood after 3 quarters...


Posted: May 3, 2019 8:30 AM
 

He was probably in the lead but lost it late.. ^^underrated post^^


Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings

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Posted: May 2, 2019 2:01 PM
 

Dabo has a 71.43 win% in the playoffs vs Saban @ 66.67%.

I’ll take Dabo over their guy all year.


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Posted: May 2, 2019 4:16 PM
 

I'd rather have Dabo right now from this point going forward due to the momentum of the program, and the fact that he's a lot younger than Saban. However, I can't take issue with anyone ranking Saban #1 in the coaching rankings if you're considering career accomplishments.


Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings


Posted: May 2, 2019 2:12 PM
 

The two Virginia coaches have done nothing to deserve being in a higher tier than duke and Syracuse coaches, those two are the clear tier after Swinney in acc.


Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings


Posted: May 2, 2019 4:31 PM
 

Bronco has already made his presence known, in year 2. He began to turn that culture around in year 1. He also did an outstanding job at BYU. Fuentes inherited much more and is approaching a crossroad, imo. Fuentes was a hot name and landed in a spot where they just needed an offense for 4/5 years. Can he substain success of his first year and not the embarrassment of year 2?

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Disagree. I think Bronco is the best of that bunch


Posted: May 2, 2019 7:32 PM
 

and has proven quite a bit. He was good at BYU.


Fuentes and Mendenhall ahead of Dino????***


Posted: May 2, 2019 2:14 PM
 



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Re: Fuentes and Mendenhall ahead of Dino????***

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Posted: May 2, 2019 2:39 PM
 

I can kinda see the case for Mendenhall.... but would consider Babers better at the moment. Still Mendenhall had 4 straight 11/10 win seasons (5 total)... UVA is a tough place to be an 8 wins is their "championship moment".

As for Fuentes... he might be fire this season.


Re: Fuentes and Mendenhall ahead of Dino????***


Posted: May 2, 2019 3:22 PM
 

ACC-list of how I see the coaches in order currently:
Dabo
Cutcliffe
Babers
Addazio
Mack B
Mendenhall
Diaz (this is a guess but I think he will be tough)
Fuente
Clawson
Doern
Narduzzi
Taggert
Collins & Satterfield, just still out?

This is soley in terms of coaching and not where I think their teams will end the season but that is possible as well.


Re: Fuentes and Mendenhall ahead of Dino????***


Posted: May 2, 2019 4:34 PM
 

Bronco, all day.

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i just have a hard time buying the Lincoln Riley...


Posted: May 2, 2019 3:30 PM
 

...stuff. He took over a top tier program and hasn't won hardly any of the big games he's played in. I just don't feel like he deserves the credit since he hasn't done anything except maintain what he inherited.


Uhh, he took over for a likely HOF coach and immediately


Posted: May 2, 2019 7:36 PM
 

elevated the program. If you can't see why he would be highly regarded I'm not sure what to say.


Re: TNET: Dabo Swinney moves up to No. 2 in CBS coaching tier rankings


Posted: May 2, 2019 4:15 PM
 

Only because Urban Meyer "retired". Read that quit. This BS has little analysis and justification. It's a list that changes whenever. The experts are enamored with Saban like piranha, but look at what's starting to happen. Saban's run has problems. Even with #1 recruiting. He doesn't retain staff. He's getting older. Where's the honest analysis. ESPN. Will never happen as they're in bed with with ... Glad the Tigers approach football like --- real coaches and players.

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Posted: May 2, 2019 4:24 PM
 

What does this list have to do with ESPN? It was completed by CBS.

I love Dabo and wouldn't trade him for anyone at the moment including Saban. However, I can't cry foul and accuse people of being biased just because they rank Saban #1. The guy has won 6 National Championships including 5 in the last 10 years. One could argue that Dabo has caught up to him at least over the past 4 years, but they have the same number of NC's, and are 2-2 against each other in that time period. Just because Dabo has been even with Saban over the last 4 years doesn't make it BS that people still have Saban ranked higher.


Man y'all really will blame ESPN for anything


Posted: May 3, 2019 10:53 AM
 

Seriously though, Dabo probably would've started passing Urban on some people's lists this year even if Meyer hadn't "retired." Dabo has one less title, but he is 2-0 against Urban with both wins coming on big stages (2013 Orange Bowl, 2016 CFP), and he's clearly been better over the last 4 years so the trajectory for Dabo is currently stronger. He also doesn't have the baggage that Urban has accumulated.


Dabo is a better leader and program builder. Time will tell***


Posted: May 2, 2019 4:17 PM
 




The methodology of this ranking is hilarious


Posted: May 2, 2019 4:47 PM
 

Unless it's a lifetime achievement award I'll go with Dabo as #1. Saban as a clear cut #1, really only makes any sense they're ranking him based on his entire coaching career vs. Dabo...otherwise Dabo is #1.

If it's not a lifetime achievement award why is Kirby Smart in the top 5....haha...what are they smoking???

WHY BOTHER???

Looks like something a 5yr old came up with.


Well, ESPiN makes a list according to feelings.

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Posted: May 2, 2019 7:21 PM
 

Then they rationalize what they call a formal proof. Yes, I know that confounds all logic.

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Re: Well, ESPiN makes a list according to feelings.


Posted: May 2, 2019 7:25 PM
 

ESPN is responsible for what CBS puts out now?

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I haven't looked at the list, but you don't use just one


Posted: May 3, 2019 10:58 AM
 

metric. You have to weigh all of the factors and blend them into one list. Saban has the same number of titles as Dabo over the last 4 years plus 4 more. He's won 5 of the last 10 CFB titles. That HAS to be considered. It's foolish to just look at the last 3 seasons and say Dabo is better because 2 > 1.


Kirby is poop***


Posted: May 2, 2019 6:45 PM
 



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They lost me when they ranked Kirby Smart in the elite group


Posted: May 2, 2019 7:16 PM
 

nm


How many active coaches have played for a national title?


Posted: May 3, 2019 11:01 AM
 

How many have won a playoff game? How many are consistently recruiting in the top 5 (top 2 or 3 really)?

I hope Kirby flames out because i strongly dislike the man, but right now it's difficult not to consider him one of the up-and-coming young coaches. I think i prefer Lincoln Riley, but those are really the two premier young coaches right now.


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