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TNET: Clemson names new men's tennis coach

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 2:08 PM
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Clemson names new men's tennis coach

CLEMSON, S.C. - Robbie Weiss has been named the Head Coach of the Men’s Tennis program, Director of Athletics Dan Radakovich announced on Friday. Weiss is the t Read Update »



Welcome to Tigertown Coach Weiss!!!

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 2:23 PM
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Ok T_I_P . . . How do you like this hire?!!!

Appears to be a good one from my vantage point. "Relentless Recruiter" will be the key!!!




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Re: Welcome to Tigertown Coach Weiss!!!

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 2:36 PM
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T_I_P ....return serve .

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T_I_P?

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 2:41 PM
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Awaiting the expert

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Re: TNET: Clemson names new men's tennis coach

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 2:56 PM
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Congratulations Coach Weiss! He looks to be a winner as a player and a coach.


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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 3:00 PM
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Probably still in the offing , but I am curious what kind of bones a tennis coach at Clemson University could be looking at ?

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 3:00 PM
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I'm sure that if we did dig deeply enough we'd find that Monte Brownell took a pay cut to make this happen .


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Hmmm ok

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 3:10 PM
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He was the assistant at Alabama the last few years. Alabama did make the sweet 16 last year and has brought in some good overseas talent. If that's thanks to him then that's a good sign.

I think this is more of a wait and see hire. I'll look into it more soon. Off the cuff I don't love it and I don't hate it.


Well that was


Posted: Jun 7, 2019 3:57 PM
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underwhelming

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yeah a bit on the underwhelming side indeed***


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Re: Well that was


Posted: Jun 7, 2019 4:22 PM
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Yeah , that was over the line . We wanted more topspin , #amirite?

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Overseas recruiting is lazy. Kriese fell in love with it


Posted: Jun 7, 2019 5:24 PM
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in the 90's and it almost never paid off, and we've never gotten off that track.

Look at Ohio State, UGA, Florida, UVA.......tennis powerhouses that primarily recruit strong US juniors and fill needs (usually 2-3 slots) with International players.

Look at Clemson's most recent tennis roster....International players outnumber US players.

Going out and filling a roster up with foreign talent and making virtually no inroads with top USTA juniors is the equivalent of fielding a football team full of JUCO players.

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Incorrect across the board

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 5:34 PM
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International players still have to be developed just like American players do.

Infact sometimes more so thanks to surface change and big lifestyle change that they have to deal with. It's a common misconception that international recruiting is "lazy". There are several examples of big name international players who do not do as well in the college game. Some schools are very successful recruiting primarily internationally and some aren't, it's not as if getting internationals is an automatic.

And some programs limit themselves to Americans primarily and kinda hold themselves back.

Kriese is very anti-internationals in college tennis (but yes he was hypocritical on this as he did bring in international players himself). Blaming the decline of the Clemson program on international is misguided considering the last time we had good teams we were led by two brothers from Germany (the Madens) one of which is now nearing the top 100 in the ATP.

Very few programs have the luxury of picking off of the elite American tree and yet many of them recruit internationally as well when need be.

Tennis is a more international sport now than in the 80s. Just look at the pro ranking differences from the 80s to now.

Texas and Wake Forest have won the last two national titles with almost all international rosters.


You said I'm incorrect, and then you completely laid


Posted: Jun 7, 2019 5:44 PM
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out why International players aren't the answer.


Either way, I think it'll be a moot point. Most International players are just looking to get a free ride to Futures tourneys, and with the new transition tour rules it's going to make college even less attractive for them. We're going to have to seek out US players whether we like it or not. Despite Kriese's strong ties to the USTA, it was pitiful how few top players even sniffed Clemson.

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They can be the answer


Posted: Jun 7, 2019 10:15 PM
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Because Clemson didn't have success with international players recently doesnt mean we cant find ones that do bring us success. For instance Mississippi State uses an entirely international roster as is always top 15 in recent years.

I heard they are changing the new ITF system back to the original by the end of summer because so many players ranked in the hundreds were complaining about how awful it was.

What Clemson really needs is a solid pipeline of recruiting talent that we can tap into, from wherever that may be. Get the Clemson tennis footprint to be relevant again and somewhere where players want to go to improve their game.


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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 3:55 PM
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I hope he has a pipeline to the top foreign tennis players. If not, we will continue to suck.

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Alabama has had players from


Posted: Jun 7, 2019 4:19 PM
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Finland, Egypt, France, China and Mexico in recent years. But again I don't know if that was the work of Weiss or the Alabama head coach.


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Sounds like a great hire!!! Which 4 #1 players did he beat?***


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He beat Becker, Lendl, Edgerg, Mayotte

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 4:48 PM
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Impressive!!!

I guess those are the 4 players who were #1 at one time or another.
WOW!

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Posted: Jun 7, 2019 4:57 PM
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Here's my contribution. My oldest brother played junior tennis at the same time as Weiss. These are his comments:

"Interesting hire. Not a name I would have expected for a head job right now. I thought he was out of tennis and doing other stuff in the Atlanta area so I missed that he hopped back in at Alabama. He was a superstar back in our day. From the Chicago area (Northbrook) and pretty much ruled junior tennis throughout age groups. Went to Pepperdine and likely played with the men's coach at Furman (Kelly Jones) for a year or two. Great team back then so I'm sure those two will enjoy Furman/Clemson matches going forward.

Mid 50s and will need to recruit well and get an assistant who can hang with top-end talent on the court during individual workouts. Clemson has to improve its talent level to compete. The development model Kriese and his successors had really didn't seem to work. Need guys who can come in and win crucial matches against ACC competition if the program is going to thrive in today's environment.

I will certainly follow his progress to see what he does there. I think it was the right time to get away from Kriese guys in this position. A fresh start with a new facility is a good thing.

Happy for him. Thanks for letting me know."


according to these Alabama tennis people

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Posted: Jun 10, 2019 12:49 PM
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Weiss was the one behind Alabama's success


https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/alabama-mens-tennis.566105/page-4#post-13436448


Re: according to these Alabama tennis people


Posted: Jun 10, 2019 6:11 PM
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Thanks for the link. Sounds promising!


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