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TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:40 PM
 

 
Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

Audra Smith will not be retained as Clemson’s head women’s basketball coach, Director of Athletics Dan Radakovich announced in a release Tuesday. Smith complete Read Update »



Re:Audra Smith out as Clemson women's bball coach- We have

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:43 PM
 

higher standards ? Since when? This about how it has been since we dumped Jim Davis.

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Two words to move forward..

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:46 PM
 

Jim Davis!

nuff said


Let it go-- it was time for Davis to go.....wasn't even this

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:52 PM
 

administration but the decline was starting with Davis. We've found no solution since and not sure that we will. Not sure the setting or the support is there to make this program successful so it would really take someone special that can create something for women b-ballers to want to be a part of. Besides, in women's hoops, there is UCONN and then there is everyone else. There are 15-20 programs that treat it seriously and do well a tier below but the interest and talent pool just isn't there to do anything beyond. Double down on softball or some other women's sport if you ask me.


Re: Let it go-- it was time for Davis to go.....wasn't even this


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 4:47 PM
 

I don't follow women's sports at all, but I do like women's softball, and I'm glad we finally have a women's softball program. If what you have said about the women's Basketball program is fact, then maybe we should do away with the women's Basketball program, and I wouldn't care one way or another. Is women's Basketball in the ACC as tough as it is with the men's ACC basketball, bc I really don't know?

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 6:10 PM
 




Agree that we haven't found a solution since Davis, but

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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 9:18 AM
 

disagree that it was "time for Davis to go" ...

I think Davis' ousting was politically motivated and the slump he was going through (after actually winning an ACC title) just opened the door for gender-based politics to drive the situation.

There is no doubt whatsoever that three successive female head coaches have not been able to improve on, let alone duplicate the success that Jim Davis had with the Clemson program.

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Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:56 PM
 

wonder if there will be any effect on A.J. Oliver?


we should take better care of our student athlete's parents


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:57 PM
 

or NewSpring should


Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:59 PM
 

Yes, his mom just got fired. Wouldn’t that effect you?


Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 6:54 PM
 

I think it depends on how tactfully DRad handled the dismissal and what Mom said to AJ. He may not want to go anywhere, but we'll just have to see.


Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:00 PM
 

Hope no effect on AJ, think he will turn into a great player for us. Also I think a possible candidate should be the women’s coach at Lander, Kevin Pederson. Alum of Clemson and has had one of the most consistent programs in the state besides USuC. Definitely an out of the box candidate being at a D2 school but I think he should be looked at. Took them to the final four a few years ago

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He will tranfer***


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:34 PM
 




Re: He will tranfer***


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:52 PM
 

i hope not...


Re: He will tranfer***

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 6:17 PM
 

I liked what I saw from him . . but I doubt he stays now.


Re: He will tranfer***


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 10:25 PM
 

his transfer options are pretty limited. he has all ready taken a RS year, so his 'sit out' year would be lost. by the time he got eligible (the 2019-20 season)... he would only have 2 to play 2. he could transfer all the way down to a PC/newberry level school without sitting or he could possibly go JUCO for a year, then look to come back to D1,again with 2 to play 2.

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Re: He will tranfer***


Posted: Mar 31, 2018 2:01 AM
 

If he transfers bc his mom was let go, then why should we be concerned where he goes or how much time he would have to play. He should man up and stay at Clemson bc the golden rule rule has always been with with head coaches is, if a HC can't move the program forward and win at least 50% of their games, for the school and for the athletes, they must be replaced with someone who can move the program forward. He knows that and he should accept that like an adult and not like a temper tantrum child even if the HC let go is the mom. That is the nature of the business just as if he never got good enough to take the floor at Clemson, he would remain on the bench. The name of the business is win or be replaced!!! As cruel as it maybe in peoples lives, that's the way it's forever been and will always be. So if AJ decides to transfer bc his mom was let go, that is his choice, and we shouldn't concern our selves about him once he walks out the door. It is his choice, and I personally hope that he makes the best choice for himself with a clear mind and heart, and I hope that is what his mom is saying to him also!!!!

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Re: He will tranfer***


Posted: Apr 3, 2018 9:51 PM
 

So do you have an opinion on this or not? Come on dude, express your feelings! :)

I know where you are coming from man!

Go Tigers!!!

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Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 10:16 PM
 

I agree... Coach Kevin Pederson would be a Fantastic hire and IMO should have gotten the job when it was last open.


Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:59 PM
 

What about Kevin Pederson from Lander. He is a Clemson grad and has had great success.


the 9-70 ACC record is pretty gaudy .........the men may

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:59 PM
 

have a better mark against Tobacco Road -- yikes


Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 2:59 PM
 

Good Luck Coach Smith .

Not here to talk about women's basketball , I'm all about the comment section though .

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Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:02 PM
 

How much to get Geno Auriemma from UCONN? Should we go ahead and take up a special Easter offering at New Spring this sunday?


Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:12 PM
 

Ironically enough, Geno's 'beginning' was somewhat launched against Clemson. UConn beat the Tigers in the Elite 8 in '91 and have 'literally' ;) never looked back!


Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:18 PM
 

We should go after one of UCONN's assistant coaches.

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Re: When Geno came to the US he couldnt speak English

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:53 PM
 

Maybe if he or an assistant became women's basketball coach at Clemson they could teach us how to speak basketball. :)

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Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach


Posted: Apr 3, 2018 9:52 PM
 

You and your "literal" statements... SMDH :)

Go Tigers!!!

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:41 PM
 



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Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 3:43 PM
 

I would love to see if he could win outside UConn


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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 3:47 PM
 

Like to see if he could win outside UConn


Good luck Coach. I feel awful for Dan Radakovich. You know how

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:18 PM
 

Clemson AD’s hate putting energy into the women’s basketball program.

Seriously, I just looked up Kevin Pederson on LinkedIn. His profile picture shows he and his wife in Clemson clothes. That’s the 13 year head coach at Lander. I say call him up and let’s see what he can do. Could have this wrapped up before 5:00.

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Re: Good luck Coach. I feel awful for Dan Radakovich. You know how

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:32 PM
 

I’ve seen him a multiple men’s basketball games in the last few years, including one this year

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If this is real, then STRONG WORK!***

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 9:16 PM
 




Re: Good luck Coach. I feel awful for Dan Radakovich. You know how

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 9:37 PM
 

Currently a student at Lander, his style of play is something to watch, drives team crazy cause we can go on a 8-0 run and the other team didn't even cross half court

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awww. good luck to you, coach smith.***

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 3:47 PM
 




Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 4:03 PM
 

Best of luck to Coach Smith on her future. She seemed classy and never brought any ill repute on Clemson, however she didn’t win enough sadly.

I hope DRad can make a big time hire. I’m not ashamed to say I care about WBB at Clemson.

Until recently, we had a really solid tradition. We still own the all-time series record vs Scar, thanks to the late, great Annie Tribble and Jim Davis. Scar had horrible years after the Pam Parsons scandal too. The only reason Scar has excelled at this recently (and really only this) and we have not has been because of coaching hires.

Now is the chance to get it right.

Go Tigers!


Why not shut the program down,better than losing to coots every year***

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 4:07 PM
 




Re: Why not shut the program down,better than losing to coots every year***


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 4:50 PM
 

Why the heck should Clemson take that attitude? You want to quit? DRad needs to demand the same degree of excellence no matter the program and fund each accordingly. We need a coach who creates an environment where players can excel.

While Coach Smith has two children coming to Clemson for their education I would hope both understand what was involved on a professional level. If Oliver transfers then Coach Brownell gets a slot. Frankly I have thought Spencer might do so, but now we need to hire a recruiter, coach and mentor all in one to resurrect this program after years of decline. We have the facilities and can compete given the right coach.

Go Tigers!


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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 6:13 PM
 

We should demand excellence from every team that wears the Paw.


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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 12:18 AM
 

We have been that vile team the last 4 or 5 years

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Sad to see her go, I've really liked Coach Smith

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 4:44 PM
 

But her teams were just not producing. Time to move on.


Re: Sad to see her go, I've really liked Coach Smith


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 4:52 PM
 

Not her fault...she just didn't have the facilities to compete! ;)


Re: Sad to see her go, I've really liked Coach Smith

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 5:50 PM
 

It was a poor hire to start with. I remember telling my son that this was an awful hire. No offense to her, however she was 128-128 at UAB. How can you hire a coach with that kind of record and expect them to improve in a much more difficult league like the ACC? This is on the AD hiring her. Good luck to her, Thanks for representing Clemson well while here.

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How much to hire Dawn Staley?

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 5:40 PM
 

Let's write a check that shuts down any positives from the Coot athletic program

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Re: How much to hire Dawn Staley?

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 5:46 PM
 

Yea, no. I respect her, really do but I wouldn’t want a head coach who would make a move to their arch-rival. Just bad form.


Re: How much to hire Dawn Staley?

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 5:47 PM
 

Does the name Brad Scott ring a bell? Worked out pretty good I think.


Re: How much to hire Dawn Staley?


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 6:44 PM
 

Totally different situations. Brad Scott was fired by USCjr and had connections to the Bowdens.


Re: How much to hire Dawn Staley?


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 8:58 PM
 

Notice I said “head” coach. Brad was never head coach at Clemson.


I wish you well Coach Smith. This was a tough job from

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 6:26 PM
 

the beginning but after 5 seasons there was not any improvement. Hopefully, we can find that homerun coach and turn around this once successful program of the 1990's.


Re: TNET: Audra Smith out as Clemson women's basketball coach


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 7:11 PM
 

Does this come as a surprise to anybody?


The surprise is that it took this long.***

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 7:31 PM
 




For gosh sake...

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 8:04 PM
 

once and for all I sure hope Dan Radakovich can find someone worthy of leading the Lady Tigers to more Wins than losses and do it consistantly because 14 straight losing seasons the program has had to endure needs to come to a screeching halt.This time it needs to be the right person and a proven one at that.


i have a feeling they will finally make a serious hire


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 8:11 PM
 

After 3 straight bad ones. McKinney was mediocre at Rice, Coleman was an assistant at a mediocre Penn State program and Smith was mediocre at UAB.

We have to go for bigger than mid major mediocre


Bout to see how


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 8:49 PM
 

serious we are about women's basketball.

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I guess DRad will shut up the whiners who say that he


Posted: Mar 27, 2018 8:51 PM
 

doesn't care about women's basketball.

Of course, we will still hear from those who haven't managed to get over Jim Davis getting "screwed" many years ago. Not sure why that is still a sore spot for so many, when the program was clearly declining under him, and most importantly, it's women's basketball which doesn't really matter in the grand scheme of college sports.

Nonetheless, we should strive to be competitive in every sport, and I hope our new hire will be a good one who brings some success to the Lady Tiger program. I always liked Audra Smith and felt that she was a good person who is a solid coach, but obviously couldn't get it done.

No, her son isn't going to transfer because she was fired.

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Jim Davis at least could coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 10:07 PM
 

We haven't had half the in-game coaching in any of the three coaches since Barb K-D decided that we needed more women's coaches in women's sports. Jim Davis's issue was that he couldn't recruit once the internet became a major part of recruiting. What he needed was a high quality assistant that knew how to recruit. Itoro U-C was that person for a bit, but something happened between Davis and Umoh-Coleman at some point that I'm still not clear about. If Jim Davis could have had the talent that U-C or Audra Smith were able to recruit, he would have coached them to a better record. Problem is he couldn't get that talent on his own. The Rice mistake couldn't recruit OR coach. U-C could recruit very well, but couldn't coach at all. AS did fair with recruiting and couldn't coach them up much.

I hope we can somehow manage to find someone who can both recruit AND coach. I'll take the chance with Kevin Pederson. Johnnie Harris from MS State would be a slam dunk hire. Dionnah Jackson-Durrett from MS State wouldn't be a bad hire either. Marisa Moseley from UConn is a good option too. It's a long shot, but I'd take Becky Hammon if we could get her in a heartbeat (Assistant Coach with San Antonio Spurs). Stephanie Norman from Louisville might be an option as would Samantha Williams. For head coaches that we might be able to get, Belmont's Bart Brooks could be an option. Marquette's Carolyn Kieger would be good, but she is at her alma mater.

After reviewing the possibilities, my list that I'd contact would be:
1) Johnnie Harris
2) Becky Hammon
3) Marisa Moseley

My fourth option would be Kevin Pederson and he's the highest one that I'm pretty sure would take the job if offered. So I'd try the first three and if they said no, I wouldn't hesitate to go after Pederson.

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Re: Jim Davis at least could coach

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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 11:03 PM
 

Shea Ralph, UConn asst. coach, Raleigh, NC connection, age 40 would be another choice to consider.

Go Tigers!


Re: Jim Davis at least could coach


Posted: Mar 28, 2018 7:15 AM
 

i find it kinda scary that people actually know the names of wimmens basketball coaches at other schools.

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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 8:30 AM
 

But yes, I care enough about Clemson Women's Basketball to spend a little time on Google.

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Re: Jim Davis at least could coach


Posted: Mar 28, 2018 1:16 AM
 

Would be a good idea to have someone in the AD do the search other than the individual who was responsible for the previous three hires.

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Re: Jim Davis at least could coach


Posted: Mar 28, 2018 9:28 AM
 

no way in hades that we would be able to get Becky Hammon - she was up for a men's coaching job at Colorado State and her salary wouldn't be matched by them as a men's coach... She is in line to become the first woman to coach an NBA team, I seriously doubt she'd ever take a huge step back to come be a women's coach at Clemson.


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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 10:58 PM
 



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This is at least the 3rd mention of him in this thread, hope

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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 10:28 AM
 

DRad is paying attention, since TNET is without a doubt the authority on coaching searches. :)

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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 11:44 PM
 

Pederson would be a great hire. The guy has won big at Anderson and Lander, and brought those programs from nothing.


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Posted: Mar 27, 2018 11:07 PM
 

I actually thought she would get one more year to prove herself. She lost her leading scorer to injury even before the season started and another of her best players got injured early and missed a lot of the season. But those two things revealed how little depth we had. I like girls basketball and was impressed by the spirit and effort of her teams even in difficult times. But 9-70 in ACC play is unacceptable. I hope DRad has some indication that he can do better this time. I would have Jim Davis in the room during interviews if I was him.


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Posted: Mar 28, 2018 11:50 AM
 

I think DRAD was bargain hunting when he hired Smith. He has hired mid major coaches for every opening since he's been at Clemson, I expect the trend to continue.


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