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T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 11:34 AM
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You guys think that we libs just dislike Trump because he is a "conservative". We don't like him because he is lying, POS, charlatan. He is an awful divisive leader....etc etc. Anyway, the real point I am trying to make here though is that when let's say Nikki Haley wins 2024. You will not see people disgusted. Most of the nation will support her unless she does something nuts. There will be calm days. She will be a class act and will just run the country like an adult. The issue with Trump is who he is and what he does.
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No, you guys are staging a coverup.
Dec 12, 2019, 11:42 AM
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You know full well Joe, Bernie and Liz are the only ones able to win the position of opposing Trump and you're working yourselves into a froth because you may have to vote for Trump. All you can do is try at this point.
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Re: No, you guys are staging a coverup.
Dec 12, 2019, 11:58 AM
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I would vote for Biden before Trump. Just get him in for 4 years and then we can all start over in 2024. If it were Bernie or Warren I just wouldnt vote. I am not voting for Trump.
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That doesn't change anything.
Dec 12, 2019, 12:14 PM
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Not voting is a form of protest but it's self defeating in practical terms. Your vote wouldn't help nor would it harm.
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Re: That doesn't change anything.
Dec 12, 2019, 12:22 PM
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I live in Florida, so my vote counts more than yours. Especially if I were into a candidate and made sure numerous friends went down and voted with me. It adds up here in Florida. I would even work on a campaign like I did for Obama when he defeated Romney in 2012. It was just basic work getting people registered
If I don't like the candidate I won't bother. If Obama were able to run again and it were against Trump I would make an effort again. I don't like the Dem candidates that have a chance. It's a very bad year.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Ok, your vote is much more important than mind.
Dec 12, 2019, 12:37 PM
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You made my point, Carlsbad. Your refusal to vote dem if Bernie or Liz get the nod is the exact source of your rage.
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Re: Ok, your vote is much more important than mind.
Dec 12, 2019, 12:49 PM
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I am not into unsecure borders, free medical for illegals, and all the typical PC bull. It's too overbearing. Would the next candidate go even farther left? I like Bloomberg, Pete, Klobuchar, and I can deal with Biden for 4 years over Trump. Biden is the only one who might get the nomination it would seem.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Do you honestly think any on your list will resist...
Dec 12, 2019, 1:11 PM
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and the efforts to abolishing ICE, opening borders, healthcare for all including anyone and everyone who can find our borders, taking tax revenues and borrowing to forgive student loans, some form of the Green New Deal and many of the other economic devastating goals the radicals like AOC are setting?
Obama started this by promising to fundamentally changing America and creating Obamacare to break the ice. Hillary was suppose to be the second two year term which provided for the finishing touches on the fundamental change.
All the heat from AOC and Bernie is because America put an end to the fundamental change they expected and demanded. Somehow you're missing all that.
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Re: Do you honestly think any on your list will resist...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:29 PM
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Everyone I named there is against open borders and free medical for illegals. None of said they want to abolish ICE.
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Oculus Spirit [93668]
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Pelosi, Obama, Hillary and Warren were against them...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:37 PM
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just a decade ago. What's your point?
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Re: Pelosi, Obama, Hillary and Warren were against them...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:39 PM
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Yeah...luckily I wasnt talking them, so I am not sure what you're rambling about.
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Shake any of them out of a sock and you'll get the same.
Dec 12, 2019, 2:44 PM
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None of them are one iota more honest than the others. They go whichever way the wind blows and the wind is coming from AOC right now.
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Re: Shake any of them out of a sock and you'll get the same.
Dec 12, 2019, 2:52 PM
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You have lost your mind. God you have gone over the deep end. None of them could care less what AOC thinks. She is nothing. She is big in your nutty world, nut not the real Dem world.
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AOC has no real pull in the party. I know Fox/Rush tell
Dec 12, 2019, 3:28 PM
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you she does, because they want to paint her extreme views as representative of the whole Dem party. When really nothing she does has any real consequence within the party. Despite this, for a couple months she was the face of the Fox News website. Only Pubs were dumb enough to believe anything she proposed would actually happen.
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Re: AOC has no real pull in the party. I know Fox/Rush tell
Dec 12, 2019, 3:33 PM
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It's insanity he believes that. She has no power in the party. They actually ask her to keep it down that she is hurting the Dems. AOC carries no weight within the party.
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I love what she is doing.
Dec 13, 2019, 11:22 AM
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She has threatened to 'primary,' anyone who crosses her. She's all about socialism and Bernie for POTUS. He's not going to win and socialism isn't going to dominate in the next election. Check the Brits if you think the civilized world is ready for this movement.
This fight will be within the dem party. A house divided is what dems have now. She is Trump's friend.
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She absolutely is Trumps friend, which is why Fox and Rush have
Dec 13, 2019, 3:18 PM
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made an effort to prop her up to convince their gullible listeners that she is the power in the Democrat party. This has obviously worked, as you believe that.
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Re: No, you guys are staging a coverup.
Dec 12, 2019, 6:23 PM
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You know full well Joe, Bernie and Liz are the only ones able to win the position of opposing Trump and you're working yourselves into a froth because you may have to vote for Trump. All you can do is try at this point.
My friend, I really want some of what your smoking. Honest, I'll pay extra. Based on this fantasy, you've got some killer Arkansas Polio Weed and I want to experience the same hallucinations that you seem to enjoy. 
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 12:03 PM
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 12:11 PM
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There has been nothing like the hatred from the left like it has been for Trump by liberals, aside from W and that was after he started the march to war in Iraq. Yeah we hated W due to the war and we were right you were wrong. You were on the wrong side of history. Dole and McCain were never presidents. Of course nobody is cool with them when they are running. When Reagan was president the nation wasnt even close to dividing like Trump has it. Youre in denial. Also, when I say support, I mean just not vocally freaking out. People will be calm. Trump is a daily cluster F. It would be nothing like that with Nikki Haley. Put it this way, my Mom is really liberal, but she wouldnt mind if Haley wins in 2024. My Mom always says how much she likes Haley.
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 1:15 PM
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:32 PM
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They acted like Reagan was getting senile in his 2nd term and he was. As far as the war in Iraq, it was idiotic. You were on the wring side of history. That war was asinine and foolish. It was always a given and never any chance it would workout. Most conservatives on these various Clemson sites were so out of touch with reality on that issue back then. Youre on the wrong side of history with Trump too. Youre lost....once again.
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:47 PM
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:54 PM
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Sometimes the truth hurts. You were an absolute moron when it came to the Iraq war...a sheltered moron. You were clueless.
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:57 PM
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 3:06 PM
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No it wasnt there were plenty in our intelligence services that were against it and were arguing against it. It was a sham of a war, but you were ignorant and wanted yo go to war like a moron. You fall for anything. You were watching Fox all day and clueless. There's reason most Dems voted against the war. You are fool.
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LOL get mad and rage bro
Dec 12, 2019, 3:08 PM
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Re: LOL get mad and rage bro
Dec 12, 2019, 3:14 PM
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Not mad bro. Just letting you know who you are...dumb. You have a track record. After admitting you were one that fell for the b s going to Iraq, a few trillion dollars, a few hundred thousand dead, put the region in outrageous chaos, maybe you should just sit out most topics outside of football. You probably thought Mexico would pay for our wall too.
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Re: LOL get mad and rage bro
Dec 12, 2019, 3:19 PM
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Re: LOL get mad and rage bro
Dec 12, 2019, 3:50 PM
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People for the Iraq war and then act like people weren't screaming from the roof tops, even intelligence people, that the war was nuts and a disaster, are frustrating. The people on Fox hyped it like they hype Trump, but everyone else knew it was idiotic. Now you guys like nobody knew. Richard Clarke was on tv daily. The end result went exactly as expected. People like you shouldnt be too confident about issues when you were for maybe the 2nd biggest blunder in US history. Now you are falling for Trump. Yeah the Dems suck right now. Trump is your only option, but you guys will fall for anything. Hard to believe that guy ever got the nominee. Once he told you that Climate Change was hoax invented by Chinese, that windmills cause cancer, that Obama was a secret Muslim from Kenya and that he had proof, and the craziest of them all, that Mexico would pay for our wall, you would have thought you would have thought something was wrong with the man. That just scratched surface too. Nope. Not you. It's full steam ahead. That's how you Trump people are. It defies logic. I think it's a personality type. Kind of like the ones who loved Nixon and hated the people who were against Vietnam and refused to believe Vietnam was a blunder. Similar to folks who thought Iraq was a good call. Those are the type that love Trump. He plays you guys like a fiddle.
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Re: LOL get mad and rage bro
Dec 12, 2019, 4:21 PM
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Re: LOL get mad and rage bro
Dec 12, 2019, 5:02 PM
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Yes...very. Whoever wrote that is yes. It was known it was a blunder with anyone with a brain. The aftermath was a lock. You didnt know of course. Moreover, nobody with a brain thought the invasion was necessary. It was never needed. Of course you didn't see the obvious.
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I think my stance is pretty clear
Dec 12, 2019, 12:17 PM
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I would love for a moderate republican to run. Haley, Mark, ANYBODY.
I'd also vote for Joe no problem.
If it's Bernie or Warren, I'd hold my nose and pull the level.
I'll vote for ANYBODY but Trump.
Give me a moderate R or D and I'd have no problem punching it in
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Re: I think my stance is pretty clear
Dec 12, 2019, 1:18 PM
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Re: I think my stance is pretty clear
Dec 12, 2019, 2:36 PM
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If you’d hold your nose and vote for Warren or Sanders, then you’d be committing economic suicide. Facts.
How would they get anything through Congress?
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If things are as bad as Dems are claiming for the Republican
Dec 12, 2019, 3:01 PM
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wow that's creepy lol***
Dec 12, 2019, 3:02 PM
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:25 PM
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This, more this, and he's not a conservative.
It's amazing how many people who claim to be lifelong conservative GOPers think this guy is a conservative Republican. I kind of think they know they've been duped but need to double down so they don't look silly in their mind.
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It's about Obama, Hillary and the present offerings...
Dec 12, 2019, 2:42 PM
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of candidates opposing Trump. It's dynamic and you're playing it like it's static. It's 3d and you're working on a flat surface.
There's no beating trump and there's no impeaching trump. You'd like to blame trump but that didn't work so you're now blaming half of America for voting for him.
Like I said, 'Poor American voters, we are protecting them from themselves.' You don't catch flies with vinegar, brother. What Pelosi is doing is making your political fight more miserable.
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"Half of America". There are those fun, made-up stats again.***
Dec 12, 2019, 3:43 PM
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You're right, it wasn't half of America which supported him.
Dec 13, 2019, 11:24 AM
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It was 30 states and 322 electoral votes. That's way over half.
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not sure haley could win SC
Dec 12, 2019, 2:59 PM
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but carry on
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Re: not sure haley could win SC
Dec 12, 2019, 3:10 PM
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Any Repub would win SC.
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 12, 2019, 3:45 PM
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If you were asked who you would replace Trump with, my guess is that your response at this point would be “anybody”! This unhinged emotional mental state is why you ignore the fact that The President is the only thing standing between you, and socialism. Low information voters like yourself that fail to grasp, or ignore the larger picture of what’s been happening to the country for the last 15 years are dangerous. You’re too emotional.
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junior in 2024
Dec 12, 2019, 3:49 PM
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Re: junior in 2024
Dec 12, 2019, 4:29 PM
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Thats awesome. Beautiful.
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Re: T3Tiger and some other staunch Trump supporters...
Dec 13, 2019, 11:09 AM
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I'm old enough to remember the left calling every Republican president since Reagan a nazi, stupid, out of touch, divisive, racist, etc. Trump is just the latest one who is going to destroy the country according to the enlightened left. Only difference is that they've decided to weaponize impeachment in order to turn it into a 24/7 campaign commercial. And, news flash, they will say the exact same things about Nikki Haley or anyone else who gets the Republican nomination in 2024.
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