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New Big 16 map
May 24, 2012, 10:09 AM
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Honestly i don't like the idea of going the big 12 but i could go for this in a 4 team regional model. it would limit travel and create region matchups. id go for vt over pitt though
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Re: New Big 16 map
May 24, 2012, 10:10 AM
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Why Pitt?
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The rumor is that WVU and ND may be pushing for Pitt***
May 24, 2012, 10:12 AM
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WVU rival and Northeast market for Notre Dame i guess.idk***
May 24, 2012, 10:14 AM
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Re: New Big 16 map
May 24, 2012, 10:11 AM
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Interesting. Looks like our "pod" could be the toughest, top to bottom, of that whole bunch.
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NO PITT!
May 24, 2012, 10:13 AM
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Forget Pitt and add VT!
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Re: NO PITT!
May 24, 2012, 10:14 AM
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Hell I would rather have Louisville than Pitt.
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Re: NO PITT!
May 24, 2012, 10:16 AM
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why
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Re: NO PITT!
May 24, 2012, 10:24 AM
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What does Pitt bring?
An NFL stadium that they never bring fans to.
Basketball program that is above average.
The past two years Louisville has had the same attendance numbers at Pitt (Around 50k). They have their own stadium that is fairly new.
Their Basketball program is pretty #### good also. Their Basketball arena just opened last year and is world class.
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I would rather have Pitt than Louisville. Pittsburgh is
May 24, 2012, 10:27 AM
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10X of a city than Louisville for one. Pitt has a better school and a better athletic program overall. Plus Louisville fans are skankier.
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Re: NO PITT!
May 24, 2012, 10:30 AM
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But long term who has more potential...Piit has tradition in football
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That would be the ideal scenario***
May 24, 2012, 10:13 AM
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Someone please explain to me one thing
May 24, 2012, 10:18 AM
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I love the idea if this is where the Big 12 wants to go. Sure, I'd swap a few teams out here and there, but I'd rather be in this idea than ACC. However, I fail to see how a 4 pod conference would function. I assume we'd play everyone in our division, but then what? Do we play teams from other pods? Rotate opposing pods? I've heard alot that conferences are headed to 4 pods of 4, but I'm curious how scheduling works. Someone please enlighten me. Thanks in advance and Go Tigers!
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Here is an example of the ACC adding ND and PSU with 4 teams
May 24, 2012, 10:32 AM
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NEXT STEPS FOR THE ACC
#1 - Lure Notre Dame and Penn State to the Conference with this plan
#2 - A 16 team conference with 2 Regions of 8 teams and 4 divisions of 4 teams– Based on Region and Competitive Program History for Football and Basketball. Creating Regional rivals. This is what the SEC Knows that the ACC doesn’t. Regional rivals make great Television.
#3 – 8 game Conference for non Conference scheduling
3- Region Games
1 -Division Cross Over
1 – Inter-Division Region Cross Over
3 – 1 game from each region rotating Yearly after home and away.
#4 – Division Champs would be determined by the best overall conference record and would compete for the (Heisman/Warner Trophy) in the ACC Championship Game. (South Division Champs would win the Howard/Dodd Trophy) (North Division Champs would win the Rockne/Beamer trophy). Each team will play 5 of the seven other teams in its region every year. The ACC Championship Game would be rotated between Washington and Charlotte since the geographic center of the Conference will have changed.
#5 – Create an ACC Network worth 12mil per year per school
#5 – Goals of this Expansion model
1. Create 3 distinct tiers for conference marketability
a. Top Tier National Games with dominant programs and fan bases
b. Second Tier Popular regional Games with Historic Programs
c. Third Tier local Games among traditional rivals
2. Preserve traditional rivalries
3. Preserve flexibility for schools to schedule valuable non conference games.
4. Create a cash cow of 42 million dollars per school per year in TV Revenue by having both the best college football and basketball brands in the most populace regions of the country and an ACC network
Atlantic Division
North Region
Notre Dame
Pittsburgh
Syracuse
Boston College
Mid – Atlantic Region
Penn State
Virginia Tech
Virginia
Maryland
Coastal Division
South Atlantic Region
Clemson
Georgia Tech
NC State
Wake Forest
South Region
Florida State
Miami
North Carolina
Duke
Divisional Crossover Partners (Played Yearly). Based on the Similarity of the University, and creating great games, and traditional rivalries in that order
Clemson Virginia Tech
Florida State Penn State
Georgia Tech Pittsburgh
Miami Notre Dame
NC State Maryland
North Carolina Virginia
Wake Forest Syracuse
Duke Boston College
(Inter- Division) Regional Cross Over Partners (Played Yearly) Based on traditional rivalries, creating great games, and the similarity of the university in that order.
Atlantic
Penn State Notre Dame
Virginia Tech Pittsburgh
Virginia Syracuse
Maryland Boston College
Coastal
Clemson FSU
Georgia Tech Miami
NC State North Carolina
Wake Duke
Yearly Guaranteed Schedule by Team
North Region
Notre Dame Pitt, Cuse, BC, Miami, Penn State
Pittsburgh PSU, Cuse, BC, GT, VT
Syracuse PSU, PITT, BC, Wake, UVA
Boston College PSU, Pitt, Cuse, Duke, Maryland
Mid – Atlantic Region
Penn State VT, UVA, Maryland, FSU, Notre Dame
Viginia Tech ND, UVA, Maryland, Clemson, Pitt
Virginia ND, VT, Maryland, UNC, Cuse
Maryland ND, VT, Virginia, NC State, BC
South Atlantic Region
Clemson GT, NC State, Wake, VT, FSU
Georgia Tech Clemson, NC State, Wake, Pitt, Miami
NC State Clemson, GT, Wake, Maryland, UNC
Wake Forest Clemson, GT, NC State, BC, Duke
South Region
Florida State Miami, UNC, Duke, Penn State, Clemson
Miami FSU, UNC, Duke, Notre Dame, GT
North Carolina FSU, Miami, Duke, Virgina, NC State
Duke FSU, Miami, UNC, BC, Wake
Hypothetical Schedules
Clemson
1. Patsy 1
2. Georgia – Quality Non Conference
3. Patsy 2
4. Wake Forest – Region Game
5. NC State – Region Game
6. Georgia Tech – Region Game
7. Virginia Tech – Division Crossover
8. Florida State – Region Crossover
9. Pitt – North Region opponent
10. Penn State – Mid – Atlantic Region Opponent
11. Duke – South Region opponent.
12. South Carolina – Rival Game
Notre Dame Schedule
1. Navy – Rival
2. Stanford- Rival
3. Purdue - Rival
4. Pitt – Region
5. Syracuse – Region
6. Boston College – Region
7. Miami – Division Crossover
8. Penn State – Region Crossover
9. Georgia Tech– South Atlantic Region Opponent
10. North Carolina – South Region Opponent
11. Maryland – Mid – Atlantic Region Opponent
12. Southern Cal - Rival
Rotating Cross Division Games
Playing teams from other divisions on a rotating basis would be a home and home round robin format with the other 3 divisions. Since each team will not have a permanent crossover in 1 of the 3 other division will take 8 years to play a full round robin with a home and home. using Clemson as an example
2013-14 Notre Dame
2015-16 Pitt
2017-18 Cuse
2019-20 BC
The Divisions with permanent Crossover opponents would take six years to rotate through. Again using Clemson as an example
2013-14 Miami
2015-16 Duke
2017-18 UNC
2013-14 Maryland
2015-16 Penn State
2017-18 Virginia
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My guess is that each year, teams would play all of the
May 24, 2012, 10:43 AM
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other teams in their pod, all of the teams in another pod (rotates every year), and one team from each of the other two pods.
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The pods themselves rotate between 2 divisions to ensure
May 24, 2012, 10:43 AM
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you play the folks in other pods ever few years.
Because there are so many teams, even a 9 game schedule woudln't be enough ensure you play everyone at least once every 3 years.
The basic idea is like:
Year 1: Pod 1/Pod 2 in a division (winner goes to champ game) against Pod 3/Pod 4
Year 2: Pod 1/Pod 3 against Pod 2/Pod 4
Year 3: Pod 1/Pod 4 against Pod 2/Pod 3
Then you might have 1 random opponent each year in the 2 pods on the other side, or possibly a set rival. You would work all that out to get to 8 or 9 games.
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Swap Louisville for Pitt***
May 24, 2012, 10:45 AM
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Re: New Big 16 map
May 24, 2012, 10:46 AM
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replace miami with VT and Pitt with Lousiville.
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