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So soccerkrzy has zero fun at a dealer last night.

May 21, 2014, 10:52 AM

Want this car: http://inventory.crossroadsfordcary.com/crossroadsfordcary/details/2012-Ford-Explorer-Limited/1FMHK8F83CGA86453/

Test drove it, runs great, has all the features I want.

Sit down with guy to talk numbers, ask him what's the lowest he can go for me, he looks at a form he brought out that has the $39,900 and then a matrix of generic financing options...and says $39,900.

Seriously? He didn't come down at all, anyone have that happen?

So I told him there's the same one on Craigslist for $30k, there's one on Carmax for $35k, and the Edmund's says dealer cost should be ~$34.5k. He completely dismissed the first two items and says "really?" to the Edmund's...then gets an iPad out and asks me to go through what I did to get that number. So I go through all the options and do it, and comes out to the $34.5k.

His next words were: "well that's what you get from a third-party website that doesn't sell cars"

Seriously? WTPh.

Easiest decision to walk away from it, but I'm still angry. I actually wanted the car, might've settled for $35k, but really wanted $32.5k...but he didn't come down at all.

So I googled the VIN number and found the auction where the dealer bought it. The dealer bought it for $31.7k...which is higher than I would've thought the dealer would've bought it for, but to not lower the price at all to work with a customer whenever you had the play is beyond me.

That car brand new MSRP is $50k, okay, so someone probably bought it brand new for $44k...you're telling me it only depreciated $5k in 2 years & 26,000 miles (two Michigan winters mind you)???

Guess soccerkrzy is sticking with the dying Jeep.

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and salesmen. I've experienced it numerous times. The bottom line is, stick to your guns.

I've bought 4 cars over the past few years, and every time I used the Edmunds price for what I should pay. I only failed to get the car at that price once. I did walk away on two of them, then the dealer called me back in a day or two and agreed to sell at my offer price.

The last one I bought, a few months ago, I made the offer after the test drive. Salesman goes to the sales manager, comes back with a much, much higher counter offer; we were about $3000.00 apart on a car they were asking $14,000 for. I explained that I had x amount of $ to spend and if they couldn't do it, I would have to look elsewhere. He said they just couldn't do it. When I stood up to walk out, the manager walked over and gave me a hat with the dealership logo on it, and explained that they simply couldn't get anywhere near the price I was offering. I told them that was fine, no problem, shook their hands and walked out the door. The manager shouted "How about $ (a price just a few hundred dollars lower than the first counter)". "Nope" I replied and continued to walk to my car. Then another salesman stuck his head out the door and yelled across the lot "How about $ (a few hundred dollars lower)". "No thanks" I said. I got in the car and started to drive off. It was a cold, rainy, windy night, and as I was driving off, a salesmen came sprinting across the lot waving his arms, right in front of my car. He ran over to the window, which I cracked a bit, and he said "come on back in, you've got a deal".

A few minutes ago, they simply could not go any lower. No how, no way. They had to make SOME money, you see. A few minutes later they cut the price 21%.

Edmunds has been very accurate in my experience. Stick to your guns. Don't over pay.

So soccerkrzy has zero fun at a dealer last night.

why'd you go that route over the new GC's?

Explorer is larger in space, that was one of the reasons.

How does the size of the Explorer

He's a PE, those arrogant sonsabeaches think they can do

haven't been in a 'new' ford

Compared to crappiles of former Fords. Not sure in

haven't been in a new GC either

GC=Grand Caravan?

ssshhhhhh

DGUARcam on the next LungeLive!***

Walk away. See if he calls back.

Maybe I just had a bad sales guy, but he seemed pretty

I'm with you on this one and this is a circular arguement

If that's the case he knows how much he stands to make if he

Why do you like Jeeps, anyway?****

you and me?

JEEPS ARE INDICATIVE OF A LOSER'S MENTALITY.****

^^^^NEVER BEEN TO A JEEP GRADUATION***

I've had 2 graduate, 3rd is this summer

An Explorer isn't a Jeep.***

Referencing you current vehicle.****

Because it was a good deal when I bought it used.

You should call and talk to the general manager and tell him

For srs, I actually sold cars for a while (hated it) so I

So I should call back and get the manager?

Yes it's reasonable

Re: Yes it's reasonable

What do you have to lose?

If you can find one very similar to the one they have at a

I made the comment I'll go to Carmax and he said ok.***

he sounds like a giant

At what point do I just go rage on them for not coming

immediately. Price is right their azzes

minus the dyslexia***

Let's open a conf call line and then call this guy on 3-way

setup a google hangout***

You had us at 3-way!

Ohhh, I want to be the -***

WHEN/IF HE REJECTS YOUR OFFER OF $34K***

What is your financing through?

I hadn't mentioned my financing at the time.

I must be missing something

Pretty much.***

THIS...I thought new Explorers were probably in the 35k

The base is, but then you add up for Limited trim, 4x4,

The newer Explorers are very expensive

A BMW car***

You'd have thought the sales guy would have come down

Haven't laid eyes on the Carmax one, but it definitely looks

WAIT

Ah, that does suck. I was bummed last year when I

Re: So soccerkrzy has zero fun at a dealer last night.

Pretty cool site, thanks. Seems that the one option

you sound sweaty.

I get strong lower back sweat on long trips.

feels and feels for miles***

At all reasonable to add AC seats in aftermarket?***

Nope, not possible as far as I know. Definitely

Tragic. I've no use for heated seats, but AC seats would be

same. SheGUAR swears by heated seats...you know,

Women a fickle. I know some that are freezing at 67 and

Letting you in on a secret

Is this for reals?***

100% SRS***

But really? I drove around with that on full blast and it

Short Trip = OK; Road Trip = Still the same.

Now I'm depressed.***

why?

I've wanted A/C seats ever since I heard they've existed.***

they seem like a great idea, and I have MINIMAL experience

They're worth it.***

yeah...aero's better off putting that money towards a snip

If my insurance is agreeable, I could

sure...let's just say yes to that last part

I don't understand this and I am scared.***

I you had put money toward a snip, you probably could...

not really sure where the not affording concerts thing comes

At least I don't have concert shorts....

I don't, maybe you have inferior A/C seats