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All-Pro [658]
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Sick of the blowouts, so I researched
Oct 21, 2013, 12:26 PM
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I don't know why I did this. Something to perhaps get my frustration out into the Universe or something.
I guess it started with my thoughts that the Orange Bowl was unfortunately a better performance than last Saturday. At least we looked GOOD for one quarter.
This is probably incomplete but here are the glaring large large losses for coaches under my fan-ship plus Danny Ford just for perspective.
Danny Ford largest loss in 11 years
1980 Maryland 34-7 = 27
Ken Hatfield 1 in 4 years
1992 Florida St 57-0 = 57
Tommy West 4 in 4 years
1995 Syracuse 41-0 = 41
1996 North Carolina 45-0 = 45
1998 Va Tech 37-0 = 37
1998 FSU 48 - 0 = 48
Tommy Bowden 3 in 8.5 years
2000 FSU 54-7 = 47
2002 Texas Tech 55 - 15 = 40
2003 Georgia 30 - 0 = 30
Dabo 2 in 5 years (.5 of 2008 and .5 of this year)
2012 West Virginia 70-33 = 37
2013 FSU 51-14 = 37
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Didn't UNC beat us by like 35 points under CTB
Oct 21, 2013, 12:29 PM
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when Peppers was there? I think it was a homecoming game.
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All-Pro [658]
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Re: Didn't UNC beat us by like 35 points under CTB
Oct 21, 2013, 12:32 PM
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This one ?
2001/10/20 Clemson 3 - North Carolina 38 L
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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That's the one***
Oct 21, 2013, 12:34 PM
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Heisman Winner [108390]
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was at this game, bad memories are bad.***
Oct 22, 2013, 1:38 PM
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Orange Blooded [2420]
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Re: Sick of the blowouts, so I researched
Oct 21, 2013, 12:30 PM
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Inflation has something to do with the 10 point difference between Dabo and Danny. How about other schools?
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All-TigerNet [11478]
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I remember another one to VA Tech at home
Oct 21, 2013, 12:30 PM
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It was in 2007. The final margin was only 18 points but it was 31-8 heading to the 4th quarter and they took it easy.
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All-In [29036]
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I can tell ya your year for Hatfield is wrong
Oct 21, 2013, 12:32 PM
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That was 93, my freshman year. Drove down for that ame and saw us get destroyed.
Had a blocked XP, where their holder chased down our returner on their 15 yard line, keeping the blowout.
What an ugly game.
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All-Pro [658]
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You are right Hatfield year was 1993 not 1992***
Oct 21, 2013, 12:34 PM
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All-In [29036]
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I was there as well.
Oct 21, 2013, 12:38 PM
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My low point of attended games has to be Duke after beating Miami the week before. One of the worst games I've ever seen a Tiger team play, especially considering the competition.
We ran a wildcat formation out as a "surprise", called a TO because we couldn't get it set up right, then ran it right back out there on the next play. Horrible horrible horrible game.
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I drove by myself 6 hours to see that game
Oct 21, 2013, 2:44 PM
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there were 12 of us left in the upper deck at the end of the game
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Don't forget Bowdens 45-17 L @ WF in 2003
Oct 21, 2013, 12:40 PM
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Nm
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Which, though the margin was as big, was worse than UGA
Oct 21, 2013, 12:43 PM
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The UGA loss was one of those games where the score was low for most of the game, and we actually had a chance to pull within a single score in the third, but for a missed PI.
That said, UGA deserved every ounce of that win.
WF on the other hand was a game where we simply stunk against considerably inferior talent.
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Orange Blooded [3135]
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1996 North Carolina, >>> bad, homecoming
Oct 21, 2013, 12:42 PM
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We looked pathetic. But I believe we got better the next week.
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Head Coach [790]
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Danny! Danny! Danny!
Oct 21, 2013, 12:42 PM
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Didn't look to old to coach the other night! LOL
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Oculus Spirit [90754]
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Did "we" miss BAMA in Chick?
Oct 21, 2013, 12:44 PM
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GoTiGERS!
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Legend [19567]
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Danny's worst losses
Oct 21, 2013, 1:07 PM
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point spread noted, but Danny still had more than his share of embarrassing losses.
19-0 v. MD '79
34-17 v. a bad Duke team at home in '80
34-7 as noted v. MD in '80
41-23 v. MD in '85
27-3 v. NCS in '86
30-14 v. GT on homecoming in '89
Have to remember one huge point when comparing coaches and eras. Danny's ere was a defense first time. This isn't, so more points and bigger point spreads happen. Love Danny! Love Dabo as well!
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Virtuoso [610]
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That doesn't account for games we got punk'd in but got a
Oct 21, 2013, 12:44 PM
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score or two late to make the final score look better than it was.
FSU and USC just flat owned us last year.
The GT game 2 years ago. They stomped us from the first play, which was a fumble like the FSU game.
Thee were a lot more games under TB and Dabo where we just got humiliated but the final score fell short of your criteria die too late scores by us.
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Just curious, blue cootie, why you don't show up with
Oct 21, 2013, 12:47 PM
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comments on games the Tigers win??? Its not like you haven't had your opportunities, after all, the Tigers are 6-1 dooshmaster
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Expert [1376]
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A bad GT, a bad Duke, a mediocre NC St, a bad SC team...
Oct 21, 2013, 1:20 PM
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All of them punk'd Danny Ford, some of them on more than one occasion. Danny's ACC wins were over ACC teams not as good as the teams in today's ACC, and every team gets punk'd. Overall Dabo is doing as well as any coach in Clemson history.
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Virtuoso [610]
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Ford very rarely got blown out, almost never, in 11 years
Oct 21, 2013, 11:42 PM
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whereas Dabo is having historic blowouts. Comparing the two is for desperate idiots trying to prop up Dabo.
Ford NEVER had a loss like WVu nor FSU.
And the ACC, top to bottom, was better in the 90s than now. The last few years of TB and until this year the ACC has been at epic lows.
You folks are so desperate to protect Dabo you are posting out your butt and resorting to revisionist history.
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Expert [1376]
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Funny, you mentioned "desperate idiots".
Oct 22, 2013, 1:33 PM
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Are you trying to tell me that having our 1989 national championship caliber team lose to Duke and GT is somehow less of a loss than to a national championship team like FSU?
A loss is a loss is a loss. We had several teams under Ford with head-scratching losses which put out of national championship hunts. I take that far more seriously than losing big to WVU.
The ACC was not a better conference top to bottom in the 90's. I challenge to show any valid reasoning for that comment. In any case, TB is completely irrelevant.
There is nothing revisionist about anything I said. Everything I said is exactly as it happened.
You simply cannot be serious, yet oddly you keep trying. Funny you say things like, "desperate", "idiot", "posting out your butt" etc.
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Ford was the old 3 yards and a cloud of dust kind of guy, so
Oct 22, 2013, 1:47 PM
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we still held the ball and ran clock even when we did not score, thus keeping the other team from having as many drives. His defenses were also good, so not a lot of points for the other team. He did, however, lose to almost evey other conference team at some point when there was no way we should have lost the game. He could coach the big ones though, not doubt, except maybe that dern fumblerooski play!
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Virtuoso [610]
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They flat dominated us and have 4 yrs in a row.***
Oct 21, 2013, 11:43 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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Just something about when you get over 50....
Oct 21, 2013, 12:56 PM
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for instance 50-14 looks worse than 41-0 to the eyes psychologically. 70-33 looks worse than 45-0. Maybe it's just me.
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Hall of Famer [24874]
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I feel like 45-0 looks more dominating
Oct 21, 2013, 10:29 PM
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at least you were able to put up 33 on the other team. It seems more of a wild out on control game than a domination
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110%er [6095]
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The game is changing in favor of offense. The rules
Oct 21, 2013, 1:08 PM
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along with more athletic QB are allowing teams to have ridiculous statistics on the offensive side of the ball. Losing by 28 in the 80's is like losing by 40 today.
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Virtuoso [610]
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Wrong. It makes it easier for both teams and for a team with
Oct 21, 2013, 11:45 PM
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an offense like ous that constantly sets records to get flat shut down shows how pathetic our game plans was and how bad our coaching was and makes the blowout even worse.
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Orange Blooded [3573]
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I'd add a couple to Dabo's blowout list
Oct 21, 2013, 1:58 PM
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NCSU in 2011. I think we lost by only 20 but we scored late to make it that.
GT also in 2011. I don't remember the final score, but it was never really close.
We had a ton of turnovers in both of those games.
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Orange Blooded [2929]
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Adjusting for 2010's offenses
Oct 21, 2013, 2:03 PM
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Ford had more blowouts than anyone and those still championing him are just stuck in the past. Dabo is the man at Clemson and those that didn't like his hire have a chance with 1 loss to spread their disease. Hopefully, Chad is right, they'll get it fixed and those whiney a$$es that have been hiden all year will be forced back into hiding.
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Virtuoso [610]
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Ford is infinitely better than Dabo. He was 6-2 in bowl game
Oct 21, 2013, 11:49 PM
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and we often played big time bowl games against5 big time programs. He consistently beat USC. He won our NC. BIG games on national TV we showed up. By any measure Ford makes Dabo look incompetent. For you Dabo lovers to be trying to belittle Ford's accomplishments is beyond sad and pathetic.
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Legend [16429]
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How about Citrus Bowl vs Cal?
Oct 21, 2013, 2:08 PM
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Can't remember the score, but we got WHUPPED
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Legend [16429]
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Also Georgia at Athens in 1994
Oct 21, 2013, 2:12 PM
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How many points differential qualifies as a blowout?
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110%er [5330]
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Bowden had a few more... 38-3 homecoming loss to UNC in 01,
Oct 21, 2013, 2:13 PM
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I think we were blown out by both A&M and UVA in 2004... there was also the 38-6 home loss to NC State in '02 and a 30-12 home loss to Maryland that same season...
Lots of blowouts back in Tommy Bowden era
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We beat A&M in overtime...***
Oct 22, 2013, 2:08 PM
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Wake 2003 was a blow out***
Oct 21, 2013, 2:42 PM
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CU Guru [1123]
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Re: Sick of the blowouts, so I researched
Oct 21, 2013, 2:49 PM
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Interesting thread. Since you have so much time on your hands, put together the number of blowouts we put on other teams. Should also be pretty revealing, thanks for the help!
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Point for doing actual research. Way to set a good example.***
Oct 21, 2013, 3:16 PM
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CU Guru [1123]
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Re: Sick of the blowouts, so I researched
Oct 21, 2013, 6:50 PM
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Still haven't researched blowout wins? Anyone can come up with stats to support their agenda. Be objective and show blowout wins.
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Legend [19808]
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At least Dabo is consistent...
Oct 21, 2013, 11:08 PM
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37 points both times 
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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What exactly do you consider a blowout? We lost a lot of
Oct 22, 2013, 2:07 PM
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games under Bowden by 3+ TDs and i would consider all of them blowouts.
2000 @FSU 54-7
2000 VT 41-20
2001 UNC 38-3
2002 NCST 38-6
2002 TTU 55-15
2003 UGA 30-0
2003 Wake 45-17
2004 @A&M 27-6
2008 Bama 34-10
Dabo:
2010 SC 29-7
2011 @NCST 34-13
2011 @SC 34-13
2011 WVU 70-33
2012 FSU 51-14
9 in 117 games for Bowden (7.7%)
5 in 68 games for Dabo (7.4%)
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