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Zion could have taken us just as far & been idolized in CU
Mar 31, 2019, 9:09 PM
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Bball history and been the hometown hero. Now since he lost and Duke didn't win a national title, he will just be lost in the shuffle of a long list of good Duke players and will be forgotten or be an afterthought.
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Seriously?
Mar 31, 2019, 9:11 PM
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What is it you're smoking?
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Really?
Mar 31, 2019, 9:16 PM
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110%er [6582]
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There will be no Duke fan talking about the Zion year
Mar 31, 2019, 9:16 PM
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Conversely if he had come here and taken us to sweet 16 or elite 8 he would be remembered for sometime
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110%er [6582]
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Plus if he had come and produced a spiller type effect
Mar 31, 2019, 9:19 PM
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In bball recruiting and launched the program, he would always be the one who started it all
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Re: Plus if he had come and produced a spiller type effect
Apr 1, 2019, 11:52 PM
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Name one school EVER where a single recruit has changed the basketball landscape that drastically.
Never happened
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Re: Plus if he had come and produced a spiller type effect
Apr 2, 2019, 6:27 PM
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Kevin Durant begs to differ.... ?????
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I think he might transfer to Clemson, sit out next season,
Mar 31, 2019, 9:14 PM
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and take us to March Madness in 2021. He could
even plead discrimination at Duke and maybe play
next season. The NBA millions$ can wait.
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correct
Mar 31, 2019, 9:35 PM
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He will be a big NBA star and take on the identify of whatever NBA team he joins. In 5 years nobody will even think about Duke when they think about him, just like Kyrie Irving now
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To be fair, that's all NBA stars
Mar 31, 2019, 9:43 PM
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Do you think Arizona St. when you think of Harden?
Russell Westbrook and UCLA?
KD and Texas?
Paul George and Fresno St?
The examples are countless.
I'd say, unless one leads his college team to a championship, most NBA superstars' college career is forgotten.
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If they achieve big things in college I think so
Mar 31, 2019, 9:50 PM
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Like Anthony Davis at Kentucky, Steph Curry at Davidson, Hayward at Butler, Kemba Walker at Uconn, Melo at Syracuse
Historically guys like Jordan, Ewing, Magic Johnson still had association with their college program.
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Sometimes I think of the college
Mar 31, 2019, 9:51 PM
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MJ and UNC ?
Big Red and UCLA ?
Olajuwan and Houston ?
Sampson and UVA ?
Abdul-Jabar and UCLA ?
Manning and Kansas ?
Those players and a few others ... I think of their colleges when I think of them .
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Re: Sometimes I think of the college
Mar 31, 2019, 11:30 PM
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But none of those were one-and-dones. All played at least 3 years in college.
Every one was instrumental in building a program or cementing a legacy that pre-existed their participation. Walton and Alcindor were the cornerstones of Wooden's greatest teams.
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All of those played 3 or 4 years, & at least made Final Four
Apr 1, 2019, 7:25 AM
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One and done, with not even a Final Four, will be quickly forgotten, in the annals of Duke greats!
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Re: Sometimes I think of the college
Apr 1, 2019, 9:12 AM
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Some more I always remember:
Barkley and Auburn
Shaq and LSU
Grant Hill and Duke
Laettner and Duke
Tim Duncan and Wake Forest
Joe Smith and Maryland
David Robinson and Navy
Greg Oden and OSU
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I'm talking how he will be remembered by Duke fan base
Mar 31, 2019, 9:53 PM
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Duke fans when talking about him will always be that he attended Duke not about his actual Duke accomplishments. Here on the other hand, our fan base would probably be talking about him for sometime. Plus he would go down as only CU player to be #1 NBA pick
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Mostly yes...but I think UNC-MJ, MSU-Magic, Indiana St.-Bird
Mar 31, 2019, 11:57 PM
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and I believe ZW has the ability to have that type career.
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Re: To be fair, that's all NBA stars
Apr 2, 2019, 6:46 PM
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Here’s why I agree with you. You’ll likely recognize the names, but I bet most wont remember when they played or how the team finished at Duke. Further, some won’t know what they are doing today....
Luol Deng
Cherokee Parks
Trajan Langdon
Elton Brand
Shelden Williams
Zion Williamson..........
Just another Duke “name...”
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He could have made his free throws and they'd have won***
Mar 31, 2019, 9:40 PM
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Re: Zion could have taken us just as far & been idolized in CU
Mar 31, 2019, 9:47 PM
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You honestly think we would have been a Final Four type team with Zion Williamson on the roster ?
I know we reached a Sweet 16 a little more than a year ago but this team was not as good as that team .
I think we'd maybe have won 23 or 24 games and been a 7 seed or so , but " could have taken us that far " is a real stretch from my perspective .
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Re:I said sweet 16/elite 8 not final 4
Mar 31, 2019, 9:50 PM
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I think he gets us sweet 16 minimum
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Re:I said sweet 16/elite 8 not final 4
Mar 31, 2019, 9:57 PM
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You might be right , but that's a " We'll never know " kinda deal now .
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Re: Zion could have taken us just as far & been idolized in CU
Mar 31, 2019, 10:43 PM
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If Zion would have gone to Wofford, Woffor would be in final four, and probably bringing home the natty!
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Re: Zion could have taken us just as far & been idolized in CU
Mar 31, 2019, 11:08 PM
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Even when he didn't pick us, I really didn't think Duke was the best pick scheme-wise. It just seemed that the rest of the team played one way and he played his own way. Not knocking the kid, just seemed that if we would have picked one of the other blue bloods, it may have worked out better. Oh well, time to enjoy watching him send LeBron to retirement.
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Re: Zion could have taken us just as far & been idolized in CU
Apr 1, 2019, 1:17 AM
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I love Clemson sports as much as the next guy, but Zion on Wofford would've went further than Clemson with Zion.
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Re: Zion could have taken us just as far & been idolized in CU
Apr 1, 2019, 5:56 AM
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I love Clemson sports as much as the next guy, but Zion on Wofford would've went further than Clemson with Zion.
I think about it this way. Zion in place of Simms in the starting lineup. That’s about 15+ points per game, plus potent shot blocking along with Thomas. That’s the scoring output we lost with Davoe and Grantham from last year. We lost many games by less than 5 pts. So I conclude with Zion this team could have made a deep tournament run and playing with a lot more confidence on offense.
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Re: Zion could have taken us just as far & been idolized in CU
Apr 2, 2019, 12:08 AM
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With the way NBA salaries and endorsement money is growing, Zion literally has a chance to become a billionaire over time if he can stay healthy and makes the right moves.
While I appreciate the being a hometown hero, I’m not sure that is something that is even on his radar. I believe there are very few young kids that are that talented and can see further down the road 1 hour much less 20 years or so. Not many CJ Spillers out there.
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Re: Zion could have taken us just as far & been idolized in CU
Apr 2, 2019, 12:35 PM
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Zion would have had better support from the guard position at Clemson than he did at Duke. I am obviously no expert, but Duke relied upon a very talented group at forward but seemed to lack leadership from the guard position which normally dictates the pace and manages the game plan.
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