Rick Barnes

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I think he is a very good coach, but he wasn't going to

Jul 29, 2020, 3:31 PM [ in reply to Re: Rick Barnes ]

sustain his success at Clemson. I believe that's the real reason why he left for Texas.

He lucked out with Buckner and McIntyre being diamonds in the rough, and turned that into a nice run of several NCAA Tournaments (one of which saw us advance out of the first round and to the Sweet 16).

Other than those two guys, he didn't set the world on fire with recruiting. He certainly didn't have anyone close to those two in terms of talent on the roster or in his upcoming recruiting class. This is why we saw Shyatt struggle pretty much from the outset. Shyatt's first team was fairly talented, with a senior McIntyre but without Buckner. That team won 20 games as a result of making the NIT and advancing to the championship. But Shyatt's second year was a huge drop-off from year one. This pattern was similar to what we saw with Brownell, with some talent still there for his first year but a huge drop-off in his second year due to the prior coach not leaving much underclassmen talent behind.

I think Barnes excelled in tailoring the style of play to the players he had. For us, it was playing an aggressive and physical defensive style similar to the Bad Boys Pistons teams of the late 80s. This, coupled with a slower pace on offense, helped make us competitive against more talented teams.

Barnes had a great year at Tennessee in 2018-2019, but as you said, a decline last year. He has gotten some good recruits there, including Josiah James who we really wanted. I expect he will have some more good teams at Tennessee before he retires.

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall

About RB not getting to the NC - note that thew 2004 they were knocked out in the final four by 'Cuse... which at that time was paying their players via the YMCA. I think the Cuse dodged a bullet not vacating that title but who knows.

As for RB otherwise, he would win some great games and then turn up a few eggs, especially in the tournaments.

I always think he is a better coach with the four star kids than with the five star kids. He could turn the 4-star kids (and below) into giant killers but could not really be a giant on his own. It was almost like he was weak against his own brand. During the bracket challenges, I would look for a decent mid-major or BE like team to always knock them out. Make sense?

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I was waiting for Greg Buckner to be indicted

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97-98, particularly the UVA game and beyond***

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the last sentence of the post I replied to asked what

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and the post I responded to didn't reference that game once,

That loss to Western Michigan in 1998 was pretty bad.

What a painful game.***

I think he is a very good coach, but he wasn't going to

He had Will Solomon locked up before he left, he was

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