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Front Page Story: Boyd says bowl is chance for redemption

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 6:52 PM

Boyd says bowl is chance for redemption

Quarterback Tajh Boyd said he knows, however, that the New Year’s Eve contest against one of the nation’s top programs offers the program the chance to show that the Tigers’ record simply isn’t a product of a weak schedule. Full Story »

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Dabo may not have had a chance to watch the tape but

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 7:06 PM

I sure do hope that Venables and Morris have had a chance. We need all of the preparation we can get.

Dabo must not show this tape to Boyd

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 7:10 PM


Re:you can get another win

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 7:19 PM

you can't redeem for a So Car loss. That chance is gone till '13


I have noticed our players have to learn over and over

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 8:35 PM

lessons that they should have already known or been taught by the head coach. Example: Freeman says that last year they were just glad to be there (in the bowl) and this year they know they have to play. And now we are looking for redemption for the Scar loss. How bout you get ready for every game. Our mental toughness matches our physical toughness.

Wow, are you trying to spark

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 8:21 AM

The S&C debate? You'll get gutted like a 3lb. catfish on this site if you do. Am I the only person that spotted the physical difference of the linemen in the SEC Championship compared to any ACC (especially us) team? What about those Bama backfield bruisers? Wanna know why the Bama's, LSU's, Georgia's never rebuild, they reload? THEY FREAKIN' HAVE A DEVELOPMENT PROGRAM.

Re: Wow, are you trying to spark

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 11:41 AM

You are absoluitely right, but reality carries little weight here. Our own HC doesn't seem so realize that Carolina manhandled us. I'm really not looking forward to us going up against LSU

Re: ??? Motivation

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 8:31 PM

With all the locker room material the gameflops were handing out I just can't understand why the team was not jacked up. I have noticed this several times this season that we seemed too tight during the game. Maybe Boyd should have tried to pump them up a little, but starting last year if a team has challenged my manhood like the ##### then you can bet I'm going to be sky high. I believe in Dabo and support

Re: ??? Motivation

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 8:37 PM

Sounds like a BS excuse to me. Tajh looked pretty inspired when he was high fiving the crowd.

They might have had the motivation sucked out of them

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 9:38 PM

by getting beat physically and also not being able to get the gamecocks off the field. The two of those can be demoralizing, and being pumped pre-game can only take you so far.


Re: ??? Motivation

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 8:25 AM

When Tajh did his "superman" Cam Newton pose, I knew we were in trouble. He should have saved that for maybe a 4th trip into the end zone.

Gentlemen, get a grip!

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 8:46 PM

The ONLY way we win this bowl game, is for our DEFENSE to step up and say NO! Tajh can't win it with Tajh Ball if he doesn't HAVE THE BALL! That's why we lost to USC... it had nothing to do with our offense. It was because our DEFENSE couldn't stop the ##### offense and let our offense do what it DOES!

If BV can motivateh these guys and put them in to positions where they can make plays, we win. If not, we lose. Simple as that. Tajh will be Tajh and that is absolute. But not if he can't get the dang BALL!

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he had the ball

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 10:16 PM

and he and the O didn't do anything with it when they had it after the first quarter.

Maybe that's why Dabo raised the white flag with 3 minutes

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 10:33 PM

to go and punted the ball back to So Car when we were down by 10. He had no confidence that the offense could have converted on 4th down, thereby giving the coots the ball back deep in our territory. It looked to me that Dabo took the cowards way out, trying to keep the score down. That was pitiful.

Re: Gentlemen, get a grip!

Posted: Dec 7, 2012 11:30 PM

Almost dead wrong. If we had continued running the ball, we would have neutralized Clowney and run some clock, thereby giving our defense some rest. Probably even opened up some pass opportunities. Our fast paced pass first offense in the 2nd half only served to give the ball back to usuc quickly. And why....lots of pressure on our receivers and lots of pressure from Clowney. Our defense would have been much better in the 2nd half if the offense had some decent time of possession.


Not to mention...

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 8:08 AM

where was the freakin' jet sweep? Where was all of those lightning bolt screens? And why did we not run Hot Rod at Clowney more than twice? Where was that beautiful motion pitch-pitch man to Ellington mis-direction off tackle. IMO the coolest running play we have.

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Posted: Dec 8, 2012 8:52 AM

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Re: Gentlemen, get a grip!

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 9:53 AM

I'm not blaming the defense after all the 3 and out's I watched in the last game. The offense could have helped the defense out and kept them off the field. If it wasn't our offense, then why did we only score 17 points? Answer that!!

The D hasn't been in position all year

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 9:58 AM

I have no hope that they would all the sudden be in postion for the bowl game.

Hate to say it...

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You've got a point

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 10:29 AM

We allowed SCar to have the ball NINETEEN minutes longer. That's almost 1/3 of the whole game. Wow!!!!!!

Still, we were 5-12 on 3rd converts. If we had gotten the ball more, but not converted, I'm not so clear how we would have won.

Re: Gentlemen, get a grip!

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 11:44 AM

Sorry, but in fact our offensive line was overpowered, to the point of embarrasement.

Re: Front Page Story: Boyd says bowl is chance for redemption

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 8:29 AM

Agree with the poster that said you can't redeem the loss to S. Carolina. That ship has sailed for another year. Even more disturbing was th surrender with punting on 4th down behind by 10. The equivalent of "no more". Very ashamed and embarrassed by that decision.

Re: Front Page Story: Boyd says bowl is chance for redemption

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 9:46 AM

Hmmm Dabo states we have nothing to redeem and then goes back to our 10 wins (even though many were over the likes of Furman, Duke, and a 5th string Md QB) which is I guess supposed to be proof we have nothing to redeem. How about we came into the South Carolina game on a 12 game home winning streak which started after our last loss to the Coots. We were at home, riding high and looking forward to avenging a 3 game historic losing streak to our rivals. We then dashed our chances for a BCS and now have another year of "less than" compared to our Gamecock friends. Also...the fact that the game plan was flawed in the second half (left the run gameplan) should be another reason to at least desire redemption; his coaching team let us down with their strategy in the second half. But...as others have said, win or lose, this game won't give us TOTAL redemption...only beating the Coots will do that. But it sure as heck will go along way towards partial redemption to show we are not a soft team in a soft conference. We lose this game in a manner that points to us being "soft" and Dabo's approach will again need redemption of our "manhood" that wins over Duke or whomever next year won't provide.


"so you're telling me there's a chance..."

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 10:24 AM

seriously, I give us 20 and say we 'might' win the first quarter

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Re: "so you're telling me there's a chance..."

Posted: Dec 8, 2012 11:50 AM

The ship has sailed. Lousey S&C program and lousey player development. End of story.

What makes Dabo think we've improved since last year?

Posted: Dec 10, 2012 12:03 PM

Clemson's O seems about the same, maybe a bit worse. Clemson's D seems worse. Last year (not this year) we were ACC champs (albeit only because FSU was without it's starting QB and several other key starters). Clemson's record is improved but only because the schedule was so ridiculously weak. This season Clemson beat (I think) just one team with a winning record. (7-5 NCSU.) The rest of the schedule was pathetic-- except for FSU & SCAR, which dominated Clemson.

If beating LSU shows that we've improved, does losing to LSU further show that Clemson is only capapble of beating up on overratd ACC also-rans but not capable beating good teams? After all, Dabo is 0-6 against non-con Top 25 Final Poll. He has really never beaten a good non-con team and has lost to EVERY good non-con team like TCU, USF, SCAR, WVU, et al.

The program still lacks the mental and physical toughness (especially in the trenches) same as the Bowden era. Our guys get manhandled year after year but Dabo refuses to hire a new S&C coach. The ACC has been weaker over the last few years (according to the Sagarin rankings) so Clemson LOOKS like it has improved relative to a deteriorating conference, but it's not much different than the Bowden era, and definitely not big-boy football like the nation's premier programs.

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