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Recruiting Rankings during Dabo's era
Jan 29, 2020, 12:46 PM
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I compared the class rankings for CLEMSON, Bama, UGA, LSU and tOS from 2009 through this year, when Dabo had the final say. During this 12 year period averaging Rivals and 247 (they were actually pretty close)
Clemson's average rank was 15
Bama's average rank was 2
UGA was 6
LSU was 7
tOSU was 7
Since I used 12 years and 2 services, there were a total of 24 rankings for each team
Clemson had the lowest ranking of all 5 teams 13 times and the highest (If 2020 Rivals stands) 1 time
Bama's did not ever have the lowest ranking and had the highest ranking 18 times
UGA had the lowest ranking of all 5 teams 1 time and the highest ranking 4 times
LSU had the lowest ranking of all 5 teams 3 times and the highest ranking 1 time
tOSU had the lowest ranking of all 5 teams 7 times and never had the highest ranking
Taking into account where we are today and our achievements, this points to several indisputable (in my opinion) facts:
1) We do a great job of identifying talent and/or the type of players that succeed in our system
2) We develop talent as good or better than anybody
3) It doesn't matter how the rankings end up, our class is perfect for our our team.
4) The best is truly yet to come
Go Tigers!
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Re: Recruiting Rankings during Dabo's era
Jan 29, 2020, 1:00 PM
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Thank you!! Good work.
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Re: Recruiting Rankings during Dabo's era
Jan 29, 2020, 1:03 PM
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One interesting way some look at grading a staff on recruiting:
Look at the rating when offer is made and the rating later. IDing a kid before the rest of the nation does is a talent.
Sometimes a kid isn't seen as being good by most but a staff sees something and offers early, giving them a leg up. Then the kid goes to camps and excels for all to see. That is a staff doing a great job.
This is confounded, however, by the fact that some services will upgrade when some programs offer; this will happen when Clem, LSU, bama or OSU offer. In recent years this has proven to give them a more accurate grade of a kid.
Also know that the gurus talk to the recruiters.
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Re: Recruiting Rankings during Dabo's era
Jan 29, 2020, 1:18 PM
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I don't follow anyone else's recruiting, but Walker Parks is the perfect example of a staff seeing something that is good long before the recruiting services realize it.
Parks was rated as a low 3 star, got a Clemson offer at a camp, committed, and then hit the camp circuit following his commitment.
He is now ranked #49 in the 247 composite.
Huge climb that nobody saw coming until after he committed to Clemson.
I'm sure the other top programs have a guy or two like this as well.
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Re: Recruiting Rankings during Dabo's era
Jan 29, 2020, 2:23 PM
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I think for whatever reason, Players that sign with certain teams (Bama esp) are moved up in the rankings. So Bama winning recruiting rankings becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Point in case- Tim Smith, DT, this year (2020). He entered 2019 ranked near the bottom of 247's top 247. Clemson was interested, but we had others higher on our list. We got the players we wanted and there was no offer for Tim from Clemson at that point. He moves on, eventually signing with Bama. The analysts re-assess and "figure out" he was ranked too low. In the last ranking he is moved up to 28 and now a 5 star. I seriously doubt that severe of a ranking change is warranted.
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Re: Recruiting Rankings during Dabo's era
Jan 29, 2020, 1:04 PM
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We get who Dabo wants.
Any more questions?
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Re: Recruiting Rankings during Dabo's era
Jan 29, 2020, 1:32 PM
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Like that ole song, the BEST IS YET TO COME
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All in - I fully trust Dabo and his staff - end of story***
Jan 29, 2020, 1:50 PM
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