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Heisman Winner [134302]
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louisville can beat fsu. If we win Saturday and win out and
Oct 7, 2014, 12:45 PM
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louisville beats fsu, do we go to the ACCCG?
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Orange Blooded [3633]
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Re: louisville can be fsu. If we win Saturday and win out and
Oct 7, 2014, 12:46 PM
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NO. FSU must lose twice...and Notre Dame does not count.
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Nope. FSU owns the tie breaker. And we would not get the OB
Oct 7, 2014, 12:47 PM
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either in that case
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110%er [7980]
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we would get the orange bowl***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:04 PM
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only if ND beats Fswho too***
Oct 7, 2014, 12:48 PM
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110%er [7980]
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ND doesn't count***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:05 PM
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No....
Oct 7, 2014, 12:48 PM
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FSU holds the tiebreaker over Clemson so in order for Clemson to go to the ACCCG, FSU would have to lose twice in-conference.
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Re: louisville can be fsu. If we win Saturday and win out and
Oct 7, 2014, 12:48 PM
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No that ship has sailed. we had our chance and we didnt convert. very unlikely now.
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Orange Blooded [4302]
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I don't think it is likely, but here is the scenario where
Oct 7, 2014, 12:57 PM
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it could pan out.
ND beat FSU next weekend.
FSU has a bye, and there is a little in-fighting amongst the offense/defense.
Go to L'ville for a Thursday night game, and Bobby P had an off week also to do some new wrinkles on offense. Cards end up pulling off the upset.
Now, despite York's determination, the ND loss will not count as an ACC loss. However, a ND loss, followed up by a loss on the road at L'ville, could be enough to make the wheels fall off the FSU bus and allow BC, UVA or Miami to sneak one out.
Yes, it is not very likely at this point, but I've seen a lot of strange things in college football.
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Setting the record straight
Oct 7, 2014, 1:02 PM
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FSU needs to lose 2 ACC games and an ND loss does not count...so you're looking at L'ville on a Thursday night and likely Miami as the only two losses FSU could have with the schedule they have left. That said, and more importantly, the likelihood of FSU losing two is slim to none, and worse, if they only lose one it'll knock them out of the Final Four Playoff picture and will likely cement them in the Orange Bowl, thus knocking us out of a major bowl and likely down many tiers to a crap bowl.
Point being, we missed our opportunity and to be honest, the best bet is to pull for FSU to go undefeated, go to the playoffs, and then if we can run the table we'll get the Orange Bowl.
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you have a link for nd not counting?***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:03 PM
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110%er [7980]
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why do I need a link, they aren't in the ACC***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:06 PM
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Re: why do I need a link, they aren't in the ACC***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:08 PM
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you're welcome York
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thank you***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:12 PM
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Re: you have a link for nd not counting?***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:06 PM
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They are not an official member of the ACC, they don't show up in the conference standings, anywhere...every CFB site has them listed as an Independent and they only play 5 ACC games, thus they are no different, from a conference W/L perspective as South Carolina, SC State, or any other team that's not in the ACC.
Bottom line, if ND's wins or losses in conference counted, then they would have the ability to win the ACC...and that, they do not, case closed.
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they're on the ACC football page***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:07 PM
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Re: they're on the ACC football page***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:24 PM
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Just as Oklahoma States loss to FSU won't count against their BIG 12 conference record. Because FSU isn't in the big 12...Neither is Clemson 
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Re: you have a link for nd not counting?***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:07 PM
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York, I enjoy most of your posts, but until The Golden Domers officially join the ACC in football they are nothing more than a side show for the ACC in football...All they can do is steal our or another ACC teams bowl slot...
Their winning or losing against ACC foes DOES NOT COUNT!
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Re: you have a link for nd not counting?***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:18 PM
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Also...to that point...right now they're projecting Clemson to play ND in the Orange Bowl...don't think that's happening with a team that's "in-conference".
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Re: you have a link for nd not counting?***
Oct 7, 2014, 7:03 PM
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Nd is not in the acc in football, doesn't count toward conference standings
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Orange Blooded [4302]
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Uh, yeah. Got that.
Oct 7, 2014, 1:05 PM
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I was just laying out the scenario that MIGHT cause FSU to lose 2 ACC games. Do I think it will happen, no. But would I rather win the ACC and then go to Orange Bowl over just going to Orange Bowl because FSU is in playoff, dang right!
So I will pull for my scenario, knowing full well it doesn't make any difference what I'm rooting for.
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Re: Uh, yeah. Got that.
Oct 7, 2014, 1:09 PM
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And that's fine, and I completely agree - would rather win the ACC and go to the Orange Bowl - but the likelihood of that happening is about the same as USuC making the final four playoffs at this point, and I'd rather be in the Orange Bowl against a top 10 team than the Belk Bowl against Rutgers or Cincinnati which would be the case if FSU loses a game.
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Orange Blooded [4302]
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We would not end up in Belk Bowl if we win out,
Oct 7, 2014, 1:10 PM
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even if FSU loses only one game. That's moranic.
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Re: We would not end up in Belk Bowl if we win out,
Oct 7, 2014, 1:17 PM
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Clearly you've not looked at the bowl projections...if FSU loses a game and wins the ACC they will be going to the Orange Bowl and then they're projecting us to the Belk or one of the other bowls in that tier. It is moronic but that is how it'll break out...hence, why I'm saying our best bet is to hope FSU doesn't lose and runs the table.
Which btw, we need to run the table before any of this should even be in conversation and there's a lot of football to be played...our OL situation is going to be a problem with L'ville and could make BC dicey (understanding that without OL problems we'd smack both these teams if we play like we're capable, but with a thin line...and you could easily see a thug team like L'ville going for ankles and knees knowing that if they knock 1 OLman out we're in trouble, knock two out and we're in real deep.
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Orange Blooded [4302]
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So we would miss out on Capital One & Russell Athletic?
Oct 7, 2014, 1:48 PM
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http://campusinsiders.com/news/2014-2015-conference-bowl-tie-ins
I see that ND may take a slot, but I just don't see us falling all the way to Belk if we win out. And no, I don't really care what "projections" have us at, as they are likely assuming wins and losses, and may not be favorable to Tigers.
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what if CU, FSU, and Lousville finish 7-1 in conference...
Oct 7, 2014, 1:09 PM
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with CU beating Louisville and Louisville beating FSU and FSU beating CU. Who wins that tie-breaker?
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Re: what if CU, FSU, and Lousville finish 7-1 in conference...
Oct 7, 2014, 1:10 PM
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It's head to head...FSU would win the tiebreaker. Bottom line, and this has been the case since we went to two divisions, if we lose to FSU (or someone else that may win the division), then they would have to lose 2x for us to finish ahead of them.
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Re: that is literally impossible for this year***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:13 PM
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Exactly, which is why at this point our best bet is to route for FSU to win out, we NEED to win out, and then we'll get the Orange Bowl...FSU could lose one game but two is not going to happen, and thus at this point that's the last thing we want to see happen.
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Dangit, I was pulling for the wrong team
Oct 7, 2014, 1:19 PM
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sorry guys, I blew it
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Live and learn. Get 'em next year.***
Oct 7, 2014, 1:20 PM
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That is a variation of "wait till next year"...You might not
Oct 7, 2014, 1:23 PM
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claim em, but you sure sound like a ####? Old habits die hard?
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Re: Clemson fans shoulda been rooting for Lousville
Oct 7, 2014, 1:20 PM
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Dead on...we needed them to be ranked just like all of the teams left on our schedule...GT needs to keep wining before we play them, and as much as many of you don't want to do it, we need USuC to win out as well and be ranked as high as possible when we play them cause as of right now, GT is the only ranked team we have left to play and that's not good for the ol SOS or the perception.
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Found your meter....might want to check it.
Oct 7, 2014, 1:34 PM
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Because you asked...
Oct 7, 2014, 1:22 PM
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The ACC does have a tiebreaker for a 3 Way tie.
(Now relax all you who must say it is impossible or will not happen. The OP asked and deserves an answer.)
Below is info pulled from ACC page
http://www.theacc.com/#!/page/ACC-Football-Championship-Tiebreakers
1. Combined head-to-head winning percentage among the tied teams.
2. Winning percentage of the tied teams within the division.
3. Head-to-head competition versus the team within the division with the best overall (divisional and non-divisional) Conference winning percentage, and proceeding through the division. Multiple ties within the division will be broken fi rst to last, using the league’s tie-breaking procedures.
4. Combined winning percentage versus all common non-divisional opponents.
5. Combined winning percentage versus all non-divisional opponents.
6. Winning percentage versus common non-divisional opponents based upon their order of finish (overall conference winning percentage) and proceeding through other common non-divisional opponents based upon their divisional order of finish.
7. Involves BCS rankings. So what does that mean now?
8. The representative shall be chosen by a draw as administered by the Commissioner or Commissioner’s designee.
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I'm sorry....I thought louisville didn't have an acc loss.
Oct 7, 2014, 3:51 PM
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I apologize.
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