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YOUR BALANCE
when you're dancing around celebrating Dabo's Natty
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when you're dancing around celebrating Dabo's Natty


Dec 23, 2015, 10:04 AM

talking about "we" did this and "we" did that,

when you're crowing about what it's like to be a "Clemson man",

when you're singing along and cloaking yourself in that something "special in those hills"

when you're fumbling over your phone in a hurry to call your buddy with the news of the latest decootment, Coot arrest, Coach escape from Columbia under the cloak of darkness, or all three,

when you're talking about "our" FB coach's integrity when you talk about Clemson's scholastic rating,

when you're talking about "our" FB players' maturity when you hear about something one has done in the greater society,

when you're bragging about how 5*'s all want to come to be part of Clemson's "family",

when you're simply riding around with your Paw flags fling on your car,

stop for a minute and reflect where you were and how you "represented" Clemson

when things were tough on the basketball team and their coaching staff.

Were you calling for a firing in blood, a termination to salve your pride,

were you posting ad nauseum of the bleak negativity around the program and your perceived "need" for job changes,

were you positioning yourself as apart, above, and possibly better than, more deserving even, than "our" coach and his team,

or were you adding to what is actually "special" in those hills?

Just checking...

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Sometimes it takes tough love to bring a family closer


Dec 23, 2015, 10:07 AM

It is time for some tough love--

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Re: when you're dancing around celebrating Dabo's Natty


Dec 23, 2015, 10:25 AM

Geez, that's a pretty negative post.

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not as negative as talking about firing someone


Dec 23, 2015, 1:05 PM

which is, in fact, the point.

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Holier than thou much?***


Dec 23, 2015, 10:25 AM



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There's something in these hills.


lol... defensive much? above reproach much?


Dec 23, 2015, 10:56 AM

or just assured of your right to call for someone's head in public?

People act like they act;

or to paraphrase Tom Hanks, "Class is as class does".



The point is simple -

make comments all you want about strategy, improvement, game management, et al

but put your "calls for a firing" in a letter to the AD.

Those aren't for public consumption

and do Clemson no good when they are aired in public.

it's an easy thing really...

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You're still doing it.***


Dec 23, 2015, 10:56 AM



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There's something in these hills.


yep, 'cause you're still in the mud...***


Dec 23, 2015, 1:03 PM



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it's not like any coach


Dec 23, 2015, 4:10 PM

In big time college sports doesn't understand what is expected when they sign on.. It's also not as if he is doing this coaching gig as a volunteer. "To much is given, much is expected." Your indignation at those of us who dare celebrate "our" football glory while no one appreciates "our" basketball team's effort is preposterous! As Dabo knows, the fun is in the winning. Take your "holier than thou" Bullsh!t elsewhere.

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Re: when you're dancing around celebrating Dabo's Natty


Dec 23, 2015, 10:31 AM

Been a fan of BB from day one,but it's hard to believe that he will get the job done. We have progressively gotten worse in the last 3 years it so. I'm not gonna sit here and bash him or the team. It is clear that they are working hard to win and I love that. We'll just have to see what the future holds. I will continue to show my support. GO TIGERS!!!!!

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Dabo would be the first to say that it's about the team, not


Dec 23, 2015, 11:10 AM

him.

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"It is not part of a true culture to tame tigers any more than it is to make sheep ferocious."
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and how many wanted him fired after 2010? lol***


Dec 23, 2015, 1:04 PM



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Firing after one year=wrong. Firing after 6 years=reasonable***


Dec 23, 2015, 2:21 PM



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It's like a business decision or tough family love. I love


Dec 23, 2015, 12:20 PM

the guy and want the best for him, it just has become painfully obvious that he will not succeed here at Clemson. He cannot bring in talent. It's that simple.

T-Net is a thought sharing place for fans both ecstatic and disgruntled. Just because people are calling for his firing does not mean that we are tarnishing the Clemson brand.

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Re: It's like a business decision or tough family love. I love


Dec 23, 2015, 12:25 PM

one thing to realize. I have followed Clemson basketball for 50+ years. No one has consistantly been able to recuit here. Anyone have realistic reasons why? I don't.

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I think that Purnell recruited pretty well...


Dec 23, 2015, 12:50 PM

Stitt, Jerai Grant, Ogelsby, James Mays, Cliff Hammonds, Andre Young, Trevor Booker, K.C. Rivers etc.

Just to name a few names. For as much as we hated on Ogelsby, he could shoot the heck out of that 3-ball. We miss that now. We haven't consistently made threes since Andre Young left.

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Purnell never won a ACC title and only 1 NCAA game....


Dec 23, 2015, 1:23 PM

the supposed "success" we had during those years is wildly overstated, primarily because Purnell did generally improve each year. However, those around the program will note that while he left a good team for Brownell's first year, the recruiting trail had gone cold to some degree, and those recruits that were in house as Freshmen never panned out.

Still, OP's record is one period of solid Clemson basketball -

and I'll be the first to admit that Brownell has yet to attain the same level of success.

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Re: Purnell never won a ACC title and only 1 NCAA game....


Dec 23, 2015, 2:14 PM

He handed Brownell Marcus Thornton, GA Mr. Basketball. It isn't OP's fault that Brownell couldn't convince him to stay.

OP's success is not wildly overstated. We have played for the ACC title twice - he was the coach for one of them. He had us ranked for parts of 4 seasons. During his tenure, we were named one of the toughest places to play. In his last 2 years we ran Duke, UNC, and Maryland out of the gym. He made our program nationally relevant and respected. Now we're a laughing stock who gave $5 mil to a coach for 3 NIT wins a year after his team quit on him.

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Just let me tell you something:


Dec 23, 2015, 12:23 PM

I finished Clemson in December of 1966. I am a letterwinner (football manager 1962-65). I have lived through all the lean years in pick a sport..I pull for Clemson. Not a coach but for my school. We have had coaches I have been proud of - Dabo is a prime example. Some not so much.
Never in as long as I can remember have I bashed anything about my school or the students who wear the Purple and Orange.
Go tigers. as the old bumper sticker used to say "I'd rather live 50 years like a Tiger than 100 years like a chicken"

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Re: when you're dancing around celebrating Dabo's Natty


Dec 23, 2015, 1:06 PM

Is that you Brad?

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Re: when you're dancing around celebrating Dabo's Natty


Dec 23, 2015, 1:33 PM

So you're talking #### about people who voice their opinion on a forum? Is that you Bernie?

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I like your funny words magic man


no, I'm talking #### about you for crossing the line...


Dec 23, 2015, 2:18 PM

voice your "opinion" all you want.

Calling for someone's job is inappropriate, and not an "opinion", it's a "slur".

Most of you don't have the appropriate knowledge to really have an "opinion" about a Div 1 BBall coach

but the Board allows for it anyway.

Still there has to be some decorum here...

You want to call for someone's job, then send it in a letter to the AD -

he's the one who makes that decision.

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Re: when you're dancing around celebrating Dabo's Natty


Dec 23, 2015, 1:34 PM

Bet you wrote the same thing when Bowden was here. How did that work for you. Let people speak their mind. We don't work for you.

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so you're proud of how Clemson and its fans handled Bowden?


Dec 23, 2015, 2:22 PM

lol....

we were just dang lucky, that's all,

and, as a group, Clemson fans basically just showed their arses during the whole affair.

It appears that even with the sterling example of "class" set by our Football Coach and his program

some "fans" still haven't graduated much in their maturity level since Bowden left.


And you are right about one thing - you don't work for me.

But your voice isn't any more important than mine is either;

so you want to bash a Coach and his family,

I'll bash your little arrogance.

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Re: when you're dancing around celebrating Dabo's Natty


Dec 23, 2015, 1:35 PM

What should I do after I "reflect", stop celebrating Clemson?

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grow up***


Dec 23, 2015, 2:23 PM



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Re: grow up***


Dec 23, 2015, 3:58 PM

It was a serious question. What should we do? It was an open ended question.

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Did you put antifreeze in your eggnog?***


Dec 23, 2015, 2:31 PM



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Just take a moment to remember all the bad things you said


Dec 23, 2015, 6:42 PM

about Tommy Bowden and Tommy West and Ken Hatfield.

You were correct.

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