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Rock Defender [53]
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Schumer should be in jail
Mar 4, 2020, 6:13 PM
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Re: Schumer should be in jail
Mar 4, 2020, 6:25 PM
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And how many times has Roberts spoken out about Trump's unveiled threats to other public officials? I mean it would kind of make him the hypocrite if the answer in none.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Well for one
Mar 4, 2020, 6:28 PM
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Re: Well for one
Mar 4, 2020, 6:35 PM
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I am pretty sure he is referring to the political backlash that would occur. and For Justice Roberts to follow the right wing's deliberate misinterpretation of what Sen. Schumer said, while remaining silent when President Trump attacked Justices Sotomayor and Ginsburg last week, shows Justice Roberts is a partisan hypocrite and not qualified to sit on the bench.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Have you watched the video?
Mar 4, 2020, 6:40 PM
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lmao they can say whatever the fug they want
Mar 4, 2020, 6:46 PM
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Legend [18018]
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Maybe it's like with Trump and we aren't "mind readers"
Mar 4, 2020, 6:48 PM
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to understand the true intention behind the words.
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Rock Defender [53]
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He won’t end up in jail because of who he is
Mar 4, 2020, 6:52 PM
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Heisman Winner [137860]
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So would you say what Shumer did is gooder, or badder, than
Mar 4, 2020, 6:54 PM
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say, threatening a witness in real time during one's own impeachment hearing?
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: So would you say what Shumer did is gooder, or badder, than
Mar 4, 2020, 7:02 PM
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Heisman Winner [137860]
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A long list of Republicans called what Trump did
Mar 4, 2020, 7:09 PM
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"witness intimidation", which is obstruction of justice. I'll wait for the list of people who give a quarter of a shit about what Shumer said, since the intent was pretty obvious to non-partisan hacks.
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Rock Defender [53]
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And there it is
Mar 4, 2020, 7:11 PM
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I'm not claiming everyone is a partisan hack.
Mar 4, 2020, 7:14 PM
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I'm saying YOU are a partisan hack. Shumer shouldn't have said what he did, or at least how he said it, but I know what he meant, as do most other people. YOU, on the other hand, defended Trump when he clearly intimidated a witness. Go back and check the board in November.
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Rock Defender [53]
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I don’t give a flying fk what you think I am
Mar 4, 2020, 7:21 PM
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Are you ok? You sound angry.
Mar 4, 2020, 7:44 PM
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Here's Trump's tweet, WHILE Yovanovitch was testifying:
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1195356198347956224?s=20
“It’s not something I would do,” Rep. Mike Conaway (R-Texas), who sits on the House Intelligence Committee, told reporters during a break from the hearing.
“It looks like witness intimidation to me,” Rep. Raja Krishnamoorthi, who sits on the Intelligence panel, told reporters. “She presented compelling testimony. It obviously got under his skin. He just couldn’t help himself, he had to tweet.”
Several Republicans on the Intelligence Committee dodged the topic entirely. Rep. Mike Turner (R-Ohio) refused to answer questions about the tweets as he ducked on to the House floor, while Rep. John Ratcliffe (R-Texas) quickly whipped out his cell phone and began talking into it, even though his home screen was visible and there was no call in progress.
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Rock Defender [53]
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To anyone that isn’t a total buttercup
Mar 4, 2020, 8:05 PM
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I dunno.
Mar 4, 2020, 8:46 PM
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You sound pretty mad.
Anyway, I guess we can both rest assured that Schumer will pay for his insolence in the form of jail time, as there’s no room for interpretation of his words whatsoever. I probably won’t be following the story, so how about just give me a heads up when it happens, since it will definitely happen, because it’s obvious to literally everybody. I just hope the Deep State didn’t make any phone calls.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: I dunno.
Mar 4, 2020, 8:48 PM
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I honestly feel Iike
Mar 4, 2020, 8:51 PM
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non-mad people don’t resort to name calling. You know it’s just a message board, right?
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: I honestly feel Iike
Mar 4, 2020, 9:03 PM
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Heisman Winner [137860]
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Goodness.
Mar 4, 2020, 9:11 PM
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We’ve moved on from namecalling to “you wouldn’t say that to my face”. This is worse than I thought.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Goodness.
Mar 4, 2020, 9:21 PM
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Are you REALLY done with me though?
Mar 4, 2020, 9:35 PM
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You seem like a “last word” kinda fella.
Also, if you’re trying to figure out how much somebody posts, a better metric would be the number of posts over a time period, rather than points accumulated. Some people average more points per post than others. Can show you how to do the calculations, if needed.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: Are you REALLY done with me though?
Mar 4, 2020, 9:52 PM
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This is a weird flex.
Mar 4, 2020, 9:55 PM
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Is your lower post count going to somehow eliminate the fact that your original post and subsequent arguments are absolutely absurd?
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Rock Defender [53]
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Re: This is a weird flex.
Mar 4, 2020, 9:57 PM
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Gettin' mad, bruh?
Mar 4, 2020, 9:59 PM
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Careful... someone might mistake your comments as threats and demand you be arrested.
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Heisman Winner [137860]
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Welcome to the club!
Mar 4, 2020, 10:00 PM
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We’re a select group. The elite of the elite. The people who have been called names by T3tiger.
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All-In [42129]
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I don't know if I feel that special, though.
Mar 4, 2020, 10:02 PM
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I have a sneaking suspicion a lot of people joined this club for pointing out his dumb assertions over time--like his original post.
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Re: I don't know if I feel that special, though.
Mar 4, 2020, 10:04 PM
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Re: I don't know if I feel that special, though.
Mar 4, 2020, 10:10 PM
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Absurdity deserves an appropriate response.
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And I'm honored they do!
Mar 4, 2020, 10:10 PM
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I mean, look at em!
ClemsonRangers: Deep State whackjob conspiracy theorist.
MemphisCat: Same as Rangers, but parrots anything Fox tells him. Likely a QAnon guy, too.
cashmoney: Late night drunk posting angry little guy.
bengaline: Actually tells people to come to his tailgate and fight him.
tigermanac: MemphisCat light. This is like his 12th username after getting embarrassed so many times.
clemsonrulez08: I think this kid used to be tokillagamecock. I'm not sure. I hope not.
Ineligible User: Cries when someone makes fun of Southern accents, can't even come out and admit he worships Trump. Probably thinks Hyman's is good for seafood.
Smiling Tiger: Kind of just lazily agrees with all the people above.
Please add your name to the list. It's a badge of honor to get this crowd worked up.
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Re: And I'm honored they do!
Mar 4, 2020, 10:16 PM
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Re: And I'm honored they do!
Mar 4, 2020, 10:19 PM
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Very true. X's post was in response to me calling out people for being dumb/absurd enough to believe in the Deep State, and I'm apparently the crazy person.
This board truly is a carnival show, and I love it.
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I FVCKIN HATE THREADS THAT SCREW UP THE WHOLE PAGE
Mar 5, 2020, 9:41 AM
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LIKE MORE THAN POLITICS EVEN. ON PAR WITH SLOW LEFT LANE DRIVERS!!!!!
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Re: I FVCKIN HATE THREADS THAT SCREW UP THE WHOLE PAGE
Mar 5, 2020, 9:44 AM
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Haha!
I see I found a fellow "I use the old message board format of Tigernet" user. Yeah, I can't break the habit either.
Doing my part to keep this #### show going.
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Uh oh!
Mar 4, 2020, 9:49 PM
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Sounds like a threat of violence! You deserve jail time.
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Rock Defender [53]
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Deweather let me help you out
Mar 4, 2020, 8:37 PM
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Legend [18018]
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"take her out" = "pay a price"
Mar 4, 2020, 8:48 PM
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if you can't see they are similar then you have walled yourself off from reality.
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Re: "take her out" = "pay a price"
Mar 4, 2020, 8:57 PM
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Legend [18018]
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Trump said it in reference to Yovanovitch
Mar 4, 2020, 9:10 PM
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same as Schumer said his remarks in reference to the supreme court justices. There's no difference there and I'm not sure what rationale you're using to argue there is.
Trump was trying to influence getting her out from her position because she was acting as an obstacle to what he wanted the Ukraine to do. The fact you acknowledge she was removed speaks to the reality that Trump was "influencing" to remove her. Don't you see that?
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Re: Trump said it in reference to Yovanovitch
Mar 4, 2020, 9:14 PM
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Legend [18018]
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The point is that the language can be interpreted
Mar 4, 2020, 9:25 PM
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as a physical threat or non-violent desire in both cases. If you can't see that "take her out" and "pay a price" are exactly the same in that regard then there's no point to continue the argument. We aren't going to find a compromise.
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You're embarrassing yourself.
Mar 4, 2020, 9:47 PM
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Everyone can see how silly your arguments look on this.
And it's silly to think Schumer intended this as a threat of violence. Everyone else can see it. Why can't you?
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His comments were unquestionably directed at the justices.
Mar 4, 2020, 7:08 PM
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He called them by name, and said THEY would pay. What he meant by "pay", I don't know, but to claim he was talking about republicans and not the justices is a joke, and is perpetuating a bald-faced lie.
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So, let's make sure you're saying this right.
Mar 4, 2020, 9:33 PM
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You're arguing that if someone says, "you'll pay the price," that automatically means a threat of violence?
Really?
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For me, stunning is like surprising²
Mar 5, 2020, 10:48 AM
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Not sure how he can not be surprised but still be stunned.
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Re: Have you watched the video?
Mar 4, 2020, 6:45 PM
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Supreme court Judges can be impeached. IF the SCOTUS were dumb enough to over turn RVW, the backlash would be so severe that the Dems would own the senate and run them out on a rail.
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Rock Defender [53]
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lol okayyyyyy
Mar 4, 2020, 6:47 PM
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Re: lol okayyyyyy
Mar 4, 2020, 6:50 PM
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access to abortion polls at 70% Half the republican woman in the country would come running and screaming to the democratic party and they know it. This is why it will never happen and this is what Schumer is talking about.
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Re: lol okayyyyyy
Mar 4, 2020, 7:00 PM
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Re: lol okayyyyyy
Mar 4, 2020, 7:28 PM
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thanks, for finding that. looks like only 20% of the country wants it gone all together. Adding the first two columns shows that "access to abortion" polls at 77%.
Now, you did not think the Republican party would be stupid enough to actually install "pro life" judges onto the SCOUTS when they can just pretend to fight that battle and pick off 20% of the electorate that votes on that one single issue? Because overturning Roe would be a death nail in the party.
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Re: lol okayyyyyy
Mar 4, 2020, 7:33 PM
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Re: lol okayyyyyy
Mar 4, 2020, 9:22 PM
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literally, 78% of the country is ok with it in some form, 20% absolutely not, and 2% don't know or don't care. It is all right there in the link you provided. Sorry, that would be political suicide for the GOP. I doubt most of them care either, especially when you consider making abortions more prohibitive just creates more people on public assistance. Is that the goal in Louisiana?
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Re: lol okayyyyyy
Mar 4, 2020, 9:40 PM
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Could he have meant "pay the price" politically?***
Mar 4, 2020, 6:35 PM
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Anyone can see...
Mar 4, 2020, 9:31 PM
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He was spouting political talk and referring to the reaction of the American people.
And you see it, too. You're just pretending not to.
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Re: Well for one
Mar 5, 2020, 10:19 AM
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T3
I would have to look a bit to see if Trump has threatened a member of the judiciary, but I KNOW he has denigrated a number of them and tried to pressure their judicial decisions.
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No, but tip of the cap to Judge Roberts.***
Mar 4, 2020, 6:47 PM
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Re: Schumer should be in jail
Mar 4, 2020, 8:23 PM
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i like for politicians to speak what they really think, expose them
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Re: Schumer should be in jail
Mar 4, 2020, 8:25 PM
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could be grounds for the fbi/kgb to get a warrant to listen to his phone calls and read his emails
nah, never happen, dems are not under the same justice system
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Got that tinfoil hat on tight today! The fact that your vote counts
Mar 5, 2020, 6:56 AM
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is what’s wrong with our country.
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yep, what a POS***
Mar 4, 2020, 8:45 PM
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I'm sure they are shaking in their robes with fear of...
Mar 4, 2020, 9:07 PM
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handing down anything contrary to what Schummer wants. I'd say this helps the abortion rights enough to ensure they vote against Louisiana's law.
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Let's get real.
Mar 4, 2020, 9:30 PM
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Silly comments, yes, but nothing criminal or worthy of prosecution.
I know. I know. You Trump folks want all Democrat Congressmen locked up for having different opinions than yours, but it's not going to happen. Welcome to America.
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Criminal? No....but certainly worthy of rebuke.....
Mar 5, 2020, 6:50 AM
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He was clearly threatening judges and he can't really claim he meant political threats because they're not elected.
I think it would be in order for the Senate to censure him for those comments, of that's a possibility. It was over the line.
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Absolutely!
Mar 5, 2020, 7:41 AM
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They were dumb comments.
But they clearly were not violent ones nor criminal as the OP foolishly suggests.
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It isn’t foolish just because you don’t agree with it
Mar 5, 2020, 8:39 AM
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Re: It's foolish.
Mar 5, 2020, 8:53 AM
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Re: It's foolish.
Mar 5, 2020, 9:06 AM
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I gave you a specific quote, and you're dodging. You're a political hack.
And I'll amend my claim: The people with a brain and who matter realize it wasn't a threat of violence.
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Re: It's foolish.
Mar 5, 2020, 9:11 AM
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Take your ball and go home, son.***
Mar 5, 2020, 9:45 AM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Okay I went back and looked up the quote you used
Mar 5, 2020, 9:54 AM
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Re: It isn’t foolish just because you don’t agree with it
Mar 5, 2020, 10:22 AM
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Could you link me to the Dem comments ?
I understand some Repugs seizing this opportunity to bash Schumer, but Dems . . ?
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I guess Trump threatened Schumer tonight?
Mar 4, 2020, 11:39 PM
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Rock Defender [53]
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Here we go with the 5 hours later whataboutism and
Mar 5, 2020, 12:10 AM
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It's applying the same logic, that's all it is.
Mar 5, 2020, 12:21 AM
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Schumer directed his comments to the Justices, and Trump directed his comments to Schumer.
No difference (other than the subject(s) the comments are directed to which I assume that's not the distinction you're trying to make because that would be incredibly ridiculous.)
I actually think Trump's tweet is purposefully using Schumer's language to make a point the same way Schumer used Kavanaugh's "whirlwind" language at Kavanugh's confirmation to make his point. I don't think any of them actually are threatening anyone else with violence.
But, if we think like you are, then Trump is just as guilty as Schumer in threatening by "paying a price." He uses the exact same wording. That's just the reality and it's bizarre that you are arguing against it.
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I like how you always completely ignore everything anyone
Mar 5, 2020, 12:32 AM
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It's late so let me just end this nonsense with this:
Mar 5, 2020, 12:58 AM
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This is the context of Schumer's speech:
"Over the last three years, women’s reproductive rights have come under attack in a way we haven’t seen in modern history. From Louisiana to Missouri to Texas, Republican legislatures are waging a war on women, all women, and they’re taking away fundamental rights. I want to tell you, Gorsuch, I want to tell you, Kavanaugh, you have released the whirlwind and you will pay the price. You won’t know what hit you if you go forward with these awful decisions.
The bottom line is very simple. We will stand with the American people. We will stand with American women. We will tell President Trump and Senate Republicans, who have stacked the court with right-wing ideologues, that you’re going to be gone in November, and you will never be able to do what you’re trying to do now ever, ever again. You hear that over there on the far right? You’re gone in November.
Chuck Schumer: (01:40)
We are here to send these folks a message, “Not on our watch.” Let me ask you, my friends, are we going to let Republicans undo a woman’s right to choose?
https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/chuck-schumer-pro-abortion-rally-speech-transcript-says-kavanaugh-gorsuch-will-pay-the-price
I can see how both sides can see what they want in what he said. However, if you see "pay a price" as a violent threat and not a political threat, then why not also think "you're gone in November" as a threat? What's the difference?
This also informs your examples which, as you point out, context matters when addressing whether "pay the price" should be taken as a violent threat or a political one.
I agree we should agree to disagree.  ">
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Rock Defender [53]
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I've got zero problem with anything he said except
Mar 5, 2020, 1:18 AM
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Re: Schumer should be in jail
Mar 5, 2020, 5:15 AM
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That was nothing. There was no threat of violence. Get real.
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No, he shouldn't.
Mar 5, 2020, 6:54 AM
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His words were very poor, but it's just nonsense to say he was really threatening anybody. Senator Schumer was way out of line, however, and he should apologize.
I listened to his comments this morning, and what struck me, more than the words themselves, was the rage and passion with which he was speaking. And in defense of killing children. It broke my heart.
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Re: Schumer should be in jail
Mar 5, 2020, 10:17 AM
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T3,
That's a little over the top. Schumer was out of line with his comments, but i don't think he meant physical consequences - he meant political ones. So i think jail is a bit over the top. I also recognize that the words that i just wrote have been written by Trump defenders.
The bottom line is that ALL of our leaders should be better than this. It is one thing for some citizens to get out of hand and run off their mouths in harmful ways, but anyone who wants to claim a leadership role on either side of the aisle should be better than this. Of course, in a democracy, WE get the kind of leadership that WE deserve and until WE demand better, We probably won't get it.
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