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Can't believe Deshawn Watson didn't win the Heisman while at Clemson. I can almost see when he was a sophomore, the kid from Alabama had a great year and they did win the championship, but when Deshawn was a junior he was clearly the best player in college football. Jackson had a coach who would pad his stats, leave him in games they were ahead by 30, and that Louisville team lost what, 4, 5 games that year? The reason I bring it up is the stuff with Winston in the news. That piece of crap wins the Heisman and has the morals of a snake. Deshawn takes his first game check and gives it to the hurricane victims in Houston, Winston tries to rape an Uber driver. Just shows how stupid the media for college football is. Hell, they're the same media that thinks the coots will be "really good" this year.

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Jul 3, 2018, 3:10 PM

Some reporter/voters would tell you that leadership and high moral character are not part of the criteria for the Heisman, like they are for other awards. (DW4 swept those other QB awards--the Unitas, Davey O'Brien and Manning.) So even if LJ hadn't been a decent kid, he still would have won. They point to Paul Hornung and others who were found low on "high moral character" after receiving the award and think that's the same as knowingly giving the award to a lowlife like Jameis or even Manziel.

Others would tell you that winning a lot of games isn't a prerequisite to be considered the best player--right after giving the award to a good RB on a great team who was certainly not the best player in America.

Still others would tell you that if you want an accurate vote, you don't track voters' opinions as early as September, and you don't allow final votes to be cast in early November (when Louisville was 7-1 before finishing the RS 8-4 and getting killed in a bowl game.)

Of course, others would tell you that DW4 was such an outlier, such an exception to every rule, that there's no reason to reform the Heisman voting system based on his injustice. On Dec 4, 2016, LJ and DW4 should walk into a room side by side. By Jan 15, 2017, LJ should bow graciously and allow Deshaun to walk 20 feet ahead, Heisman or not. Once you considered the postseason, only morons wouldn't vote for Deshaun. But the award is given prior to the CFP, which means it will grow increasingly meaningless. This is probably the most convincing argument these traditionalists will hear re. all the flaws in their voting system.

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Heisman is a joke ... you have to have a mugshot on file

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Media doesn't matter.

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agreed. if you don't like this guys post

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Newton, Winston, Manziel, Jackson, etc. Who cares anymore?***

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