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I don’t see Hootie, nor any blowfishes on that list.....***
Apr 24, 2020, 8:00 AM
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Can’t make any money giving away free concerts
Apr 24, 2020, 8:16 AM
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every time Coots win a championship
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I had to do a little research on this. I mean, it's not like
Apr 24, 2020, 8:17 AM
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he had a gazillion #1 hits or albums. But he has toured relentlessly for decades. He's pretty much a solo artist with "backing band members", so he's not splitting all the money evenly with other band members. And he writes and composes almost all of his tunes, so he owns all of the publishing rights, royalties, etc. That's where a lot of folks screw up. Like Paul, who ended up having to buy back his own songs from Michael Jackson... via Sony, Apple, etc.
And he is apparently a very shrewd business man and dabbles in a ton of stuff. Real estate ventures, casinos, restaurant chains, beer, reefer, food, clothing lines... you name it. I'd guess his record sales and touring was just "seed money" for his other investments and businesses.
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You're exactly right.
Apr 24, 2020, 9:00 AM
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You can also include author in that list, he's written a couple of novels, a couple of children's books, and a couple of memoirs. His book A Pirate Looks At 50 gives a really good glimpse into who and what Jimmy Buffett is. It's a really good read. The two novels I've read, Where Is Joe Merchant and A Salty Piece Of Land, are both worth reading.
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Also, he kept his crap together. Been married to the same
Apr 24, 2020, 9:23 AM
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woman since 1977. Never fell into bad heroin/cocaine addictions that required multiple stints in and out of rehab. Etc. Kept his head together and just kept grinding out albums and tours. Success, money and all the excesses have robbed many musicians of a lot of their money...
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He has groomed some pretty fair talent on his tours as well
Apr 24, 2020, 10:18 AM
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He seems to enjoy helping out younger artists.
I saw an interview with Buffet At the American Library in Paris a few years back. Very worth it if you have the time:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=egS7hZlzcgM
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He gave Todd Snider his big break, IIRC***
Apr 24, 2020, 10:59 AM
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Mac cowrites a good bit too, at least I think he does.***
Apr 24, 2020, 10:51 AM
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OK, so I am right and wrong. He does not really cowrite
Apr 24, 2020, 10:59 AM
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Jimmy's songs, he does write some cheesy country stuff though.
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Pretty sure his secret is diversification
Apr 24, 2020, 8:08 AM
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And rock music?
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he still sucks***
Apr 24, 2020, 8:08 AM
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Re: Pretty sweet action for an ol’ weed dealer***
Apr 24, 2020, 8:10 AM
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Who are all those old Swedes?
Apr 24, 2020, 8:27 AM
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Is that ABBA?
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He’s the Paul Newman of music.
Apr 24, 2020, 8:33 AM
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Except Newman was charitable and had talent.
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Yeah, I know. Part of his success is no doubt because of the
Apr 24, 2020, 9:05 AM
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universal appeal of his music. It's non-threatening and stays in the middle lane. Your mom can listen to it and so can your daughter. And it has the crossover effect, country music people can listen to it, but they probably wouldn't care for Black Sabbath. You know what I mean.
The other thing is, his songs were part of the "soundtrack of our life" for people my age. I never owned any of his albums, but can sing along with most of his songs. You couldn't escape his music when AM radio/Top 40 dominated the airwaves. And every bar and pool hall at the beach played it. You heard it without even trying. I say the same thing about the Eagles. Not really my cup of tea, but you heard it everywhere you went. Couldn't avoid it.
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Boomers absolutely GET DOWN to Jimmy***
Apr 24, 2020, 8:38 AM
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I stopped by Red's one day and they were having a
Apr 24, 2020, 3:31 PM
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CHS Parrothead party.
There were a bunch of drunk, balding, chubby divorced 40+ dudes hitting on a bunch of drunk, droopy, sloppy 40+ divorced women. It was sad and funny all at once.
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Phish @ $200M, so $50M each I assume. Has Trey not
Apr 24, 2020, 8:45 AM
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injected AT LEAST half of that into his veins? And Mike's scarf and shoe collection has got to be eating away at his net worth.
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don’t forget page has blown through a bunch
Apr 24, 2020, 1:54 PM
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Sandwiches, probably keeps Subway in business.
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Buffett is an excellent businessman and marketer.
Apr 24, 2020, 8:52 AM
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Like his music or not, he figured out the business side and ran with it. The man churned out 6 great records in his early days proving his mettle as a songwriter. It's when he turned the corner with Volcano in 1979 to chase chart hits and develop the Parrothead lifestyle that he lost me a little. I'm still a fan, and consider A White Sport Coat and a Pink Crustacean, Living and Dying in 3/4 Time, A1A, Havana Daydreamin', Changes in Latitudes, Changes in Attitudes, and Son of a Son of a Sailor to be brilliant albums. Even High Cumberland Jubilee had some very good material on, albeit not as solid as an effort as the others of those early days. Buffett was a staple act at Carowinds back in my youth, he came every year as an acoustic act and with his full band, and always put on a great show. I guess I've seen him 5 or 6 times prior to 1980, and only once since. We were in NYC when he did a free show for Good Morning America when License to Chill came out in 2004, so I got up early and walked a few blocks down to see him. It was only around 10 songs, but a still a good show.
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I would not change one word of what you stated here.
Apr 24, 2020, 9:36 AM
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I've seen him live more times than I could accurately count, but only once or twice since the infernal "Parrothead" people ruined everything except Mr Buffett's wallet.
He deserves all the millions he has made, solely because of those first 6 amazing records.
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DAC has a song about Key West
Apr 24, 2020, 10:13 AM
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"There's sailboats, and conch shells, and palm trees galore. But Jimmy Buffet doesn't live in Key West any more"
I think that's about the time he started honing that business acumen, an later opening restaurants, hotels and senior living communities.
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That song came about because Buffett accused DAC of
Apr 24, 2020, 10:29 AM
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plagiarizing the melody of Coe's Divers Do It Deeper from Buffett's Changes in Lattitude. The story goes that Buffett said he would have sued him, but he wasn't going to give Coe the pleasure of seeing his name in the paper. Coe answered with that song.
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Yeah I figured DAC was just trying to glom onto
Apr 24, 2020, 10:36 AM
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Buffett's success. DAC's definitely not above saying how great he is.
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DAC has written some incredible songs.
Apr 24, 2020, 10:47 AM
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He's also the only artist I've ever seen live where I truly feared for my safety. He managed to attract the absolute worst elements of humanity into one small space anytime he played. That said, he's also not the most cultured guy in the music business. He actually lived the outlaw lifestyle he sang about. REALLY lived it.
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in prison***
Apr 24, 2020, 12:11 PM
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And for all the places he claimed to be from over the years
Apr 24, 2020, 1:40 PM
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he was still born and raised and did most of his prison time Ohio.
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Saw him in Greenwood one time. He started a 8 and I left at
Apr 24, 2020, 2:41 PM
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midnight, he was still going strong.
He could (can?) sound like any country singer he wants to.
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I've left many a sporting event where the outcome was a
Apr 24, 2020, 4:30 PM
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forgone conclusion, but I have never once left a concert before the lights came up and they were throwing people out.
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He's spun his music into more than just about anyone
Apr 24, 2020, 8:53 AM
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A lot of musicians try to do it, like Kenny Rogers and the chicken restaurants. But Jimmy Buffett has played musical tycoon far better than he ever played beach bum. Live a lifestyle, sing about it. Promote it. Sell it. Profit. Forget about the lifestyle you promote and used to live because you don't anymore.
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thats called "selling a dream"
Apr 24, 2020, 10:11 AM
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He's one of the few that can afford to live the lifestyle he sings about, but doesn't.
Kenny Chesney has picked up that challenge and ran with it though.
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Except...
Apr 24, 2020, 10:16 AM
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nothing in Kenny Chesney's career can point to anything past mindless pop drivel. Buffett's early work is stellar, timeless, and classic.
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I'd give Kenny a bit more credit.
Apr 24, 2020, 10:21 AM
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He's done a lot for the islands in the last few years that has made him a bit more credible in my opinion.
Additionally, it's hard to overlook a $50 million/year tour. If nothing else, he's a good businessman.
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I won't take that away from him, but the music doesn't even
Apr 24, 2020, 10:32 AM
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begin to approach early-era Buffett.
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He hasn't been sitting around just Havana Daydreaming or
Apr 24, 2020, 11:39 AM
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Trying to reason with Hurricane Season.
My guess is some where he ran into a chum with a bottle of rum, made some fruitcakes and called his cousin in Miami.
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