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New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 3:32 PM
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i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:35 PM
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Indifferent perhaps?***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:35 PM
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:57 PM
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I was hoping for a different OC. But Dabo has been right on the other hires. Lets congratulate these guy's and show our support. They deserve that much.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:02 PM
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Just because they are co-coordinators doesn't mean that Scott isn't the head guy, of course doesn't mean that Elliot isn't either but one of them is the head guy, I do not believe that Dabo would do that unless he didn't think it was the best move.
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Smart move by Dabo
Dec 2, 2014, 4:07 PM
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I would assume Elliot would coordinate the run game, and Scott the passing game. They've got one game to prove themselves. If they don't cut it, you hire someone from the outside. Smart.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 3, 2014, 4:30 PM
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So far Dabo being named head coach is the best thing to happen at Clemson since Danny Ford. His hiring of Chad Morris and Brent Venables were prefect. Look at the wins and the great recruiting that's happened in the past few years. Jeff and Tony have been a big part of all of these things and personally Dabo is a genius. I can't imagine any one questioning the reasoning in his decision for them to co-coach the offense. It's by far the least disruptive thing for the Tigers and the players and recruits already know them, and trust them. Great choice and if not,Dabo will fix it.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:08 PM
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Doesn't really matter how you feel about it! The decision has been made and I think it's great!
One item of note: both of these gentlemen are CLEMSON men, who are ALL IN!!
While bringing in a high profile "hired gun" from outside The program seems nice and all, there is no GUARENTEE that they would be successful or more importantly ALL IN!
These two will serve us very very well in their new roles and recruiting will be off the chain moving forward!
Go Tigers!!!!
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:12 PM
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Hey ALLIN4CU, well said and I agree 100% with you! I think either man/and or BOTH men will do an outstanding job with this. I totally trust Dabo's judgement.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:39 PM
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I'm liking this, good choice.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 6:25 PM
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After rethinking this decision, I am more happy about it. It is a nice reward for both guys, and it solidifies our staff. I don't see the other coaches bolting, unless Venables gets some major offers, and he very well might. I am just glad to have coaches other programs would want. There have been times when that wasn't the case, and we suffered because of it.
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Heard! We bring Dabo up from within
Dec 3, 2014, 4:16 AM
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and have the opportunity to have 4 consecutive 10+ win seasons.
He brought in CBV from Oklahoma. He CBV coached in some huge games for Oklahoma. Now, WE legitimately have the #1 D in the nation this year (at least top 5 for anyone who wants to argue that fact).
He hires CCM. A guy one year removed from coaching Friday night games, and in 4 years, he is now head coach at SMU.
I think we can all agree, given his recent record, he knows how to pick coaches, and is an unbelievable recruiter. Add Elliot and Scott to the mix a little more, and recruiting is a wrap! Kids want to play for these guys.
Only one way to find out, but Dabo has earned the right to do as he sees fit IMO.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:26 PM
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Did Dabo consult you before he made this move? If not, he evidently don't give a rat's a$$ what you think.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:31 PM
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At first neither did I. I guess I finally came to terms with it this morning, after several reports stated that it was a distinct possibility. As I thought about it though, I got more comfortable with the idea. I mean these guys aren't just some yahoo's off of the street, they are Tigers, they "bleed orange." Former graduates, great recruiters, that have had four years of learning under a really good OC, and have a great track record of coaching players that will work their tail off to earn it. I think Clemson could do a good deal worse than these two. Time will tell.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:43 PM
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Dabo knows politics
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:54 PM
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Huge mistake! As a former CEO it has been my experience when someone (1) is not responsible, no ONE is responsible. CO-Anything just doesn't work, plus the fact that they will be co-controlling an offense that has slowed down and is no longer thinking about running 90 offensive plays per game! Too many "bubble screens" were used rather than throwing it over the top. Maybe that's unfair since they had Stoudt who couldn't make the throws. Dabo just missed a chance to insert new thinking and new ideas into his offense. Maybe it's back to play great defense and run the ball hard!
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"### a former C(r)ockEatingOfficianado"<- Experienced.***
Dec 2, 2014, 5:58 PM
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 6:22 PM
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You were right when you said Stoudt. The screens were called because Stoudt can't read cover defense. Watson will be Scotts key to getting a future HC job offer. All he has to do is tell Watson to get a first down.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 7:27 PM
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A corporation is not a team sport. As a current CEO of a corporation, I can assure you equal co-team members do work as long as: A) There is someone with oversight available to override tie breakers and provide clear direction for the team. B) The right team members are put together. Generally if you have a hands off approach to your team members they will excel. In Jeff and Tony's case they will be able to make objections on a particular crucial call without hesitation. I am quite sure they have a plan worked out as to who, how and when plays are called. There may be a few hiccups along the way and yes a little risk, but this could work quite well.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 8:50 PM
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I agree. I think there has to be one guy in charge of the offense. My vote would go to Jeff Scott. I'm not sure what Dabo has in mind here. Re: play-calling, you need a wizard at the helm, not two men debating. Maybe I'm missing something.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 9:56 PM
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Nope you've missed a lot slumdog.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 6:19 PM
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Me either. Dabo must have feared that Elliot would bolt for SMU with Morris if he didn't do something. I do agree that both are excellent coaches with bright futures, but I guess I just figured Scott had earned the job a little more with his recruiting successes. Still, I'm happy we are keeping both and that they both are being rewarded for their performance.
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 8:46 PM
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We don't care how you feel about it.
We have a head coach that makes the decisions around here
He has made great hires throughout his young career, so why not just relax?
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Re: i don't know how I feel about this***
Dec 2, 2014, 8:53 PM
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I think he has a right to his opinion.
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So...there's that***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:35 PM
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 3:36 PM
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So Morris tried to take Elliot too?
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interesting, that could be the case***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:39 PM
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Scott will be calling plays.***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:37 PM
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 3:37 PM
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So didn't see that coming. Indecisive? Ploy to buy time on making a decision later? Will he eventually choose between the two?
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We also have Co-Defensive Coordinators***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:38 PM
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If you believe this I have a bridge to sell you
Dec 2, 2014, 4:10 PM
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That is a title and a paycheck... not real responsibility. If Venables left tomorrow the D would fall off a cliff.
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4th and goal from the 1, who makes the call?
Dec 2, 2014, 3:38 PM
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Do they have to agree on the play?
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The press release says they will either take turns
Dec 2, 2014, 3:40 PM
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in those situations or rock paper scissors to decide. Regardless they will line up in the shotgun.
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So we'd run a trick play on 4th and goal?***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:24 PM
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uh-oh.
Dec 2, 2014, 3:39 PM
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Don't think I'd done that.
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Re: uh-oh.
Dec 2, 2014, 3:44 PM
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Its not that uncommon, a lot of teams have co-coordinators. It doesn't mean they do the exact same thing and fight over the plays they want to call, that would be insane. One will likely be designated as the play caller on gameday.
I think its a good move.
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So, do they retain their position coach responsibilities?***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:43 PM
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Re: So, do they retain their position coach responsibilities?***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:48 PM
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Good question! I'd assume they would but obviously not necessarily.
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Re: So, do they retain their position coach responsibilities?***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:28 PM
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Venables and Hobby have maintained their position responsibilities while being co-d coordinators, no reason to think Scott and Elliott won't.
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Re: So, do they retain their position coach responsibilities?***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:49 PM
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Chad was the QB coach...so who gets to do that as Scott was WR coach and TE was RB coach...maybe have Cole S as the grad assistant for the QB coach slot?
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Re: So, do they retain their position coach responsibilities?***
Dec 2, 2014, 5:53 PM
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> Chad was the QB coach...so who gets to do that as > Scott was WR coach and TE was RB coach...maybe have > Cole S as the grad assistant for the QB coach slot? > Billy Napier can come back and coach QBS
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We'll get Spence as the bubble screen coach IMO.
Dec 3, 2014, 4:28 AM
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 3:45 PM
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Oppurtunity to give both Elliot and Scott big raises.
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It makes us look worse... especially to recruits
Dec 2, 2014, 3:47 PM
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I though Scott was the heir apparent all along? This had to be a move to keep Tony in house.
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I think Dabo wants to keep that tandem together.***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:01 PM
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So then is there any truth to the rumor Scott was calling
Dec 2, 2014, 3:47 PM
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the plays on Saturday?
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Not unless you have a source***
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Re: So then is there any truth to the rumor Scott was calling
Dec 3, 2014, 1:08 AM
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I have no idea but, I have commented a few times that Saturday was the best called game that Morris has call the whole season. If Jeff was calling them, that surly would explain why I thought it was the best game CM had called all season. I thought that the calls were mixed in so well that Spurrier never could catch onto the rhythm of the play calling that he and other decent coaches has pegged CM on. If it was Jeff calling the plays, he done a h&ll of a job keeping Spurrier confused.
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Sorta wished it would have been just Scott...
Dec 2, 2014, 3:47 PM
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Now we have two guys to throw stones at when the bubble screen, toss back fake reverse , jet sweep double motion , pulling elephants , quarterback draw goes for no gain !!!!!
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Re: Alternate play callin??????
Dec 2, 2014, 3:49 PM
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So do you alternate the calls on 1st, 2nd and 3rd down or by quarters or by who has the best game plan? Does Brad get mad if Dabo gets in his son's face for bad calls? Running a football team and running a business has similarities. Having two final decision makers makes for a difficult day.
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What is the advantage of having a Co-coordinator ?
Dec 2, 2014, 3:49 PM
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Not sure I like this move.
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Re: What is the advantage of having a Co-coordinator ?
Dec 2, 2014, 3:51 PM
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Co-Managers didn't work for Jim and Michael in The Office... doubt it'll work here either.
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Re: OC doesn't = playcalling folks
Dec 2, 2014, 8:49 PM
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I be willing to bet that it wasn't that way with Chad Morris. I'm betting that the only thing that he wanted to know, was who was ready to go, and who had done better in practice. Chad come to Clemson with the understanding that he controlled the offense.
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Re: Uuuh..well..ooook
Dec 2, 2014, 5:18 PM
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Elliot was a team captain while at Clemson... he has the leadership qualities needed. He is also smart! Both have been learning this offense for 4 years... the most important thing here is to keep the same offense for the next 2 years or 3 as long as Watson is at Clemson.. if you have to change it afterwards do so but Chad Morris offense was made for a QB like Watson....
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Re: Uuuh..well..ooook
Dec 2, 2014, 8:59 PM
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You're not the only one, its mind boggling to me also. And I can't wrap my head around that either unless, it got back to Dabo that Morris were talking to coach about going with him. As we all know now, this job move with Morris has been going on for two weeks or more. Most likely since June Jones walk away from SMU. CM has been making contact ever since I'm thinking.
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Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 3:50 PM
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Way to go Swinney, promote TWO guys with ZERO experience to ONE position after interviewing ZERO other candidates who have experience.
And people wonder why Clemson is a laughing stock.
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correction: YOU are a laughing stock***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:52 PM
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well said...***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:03 PM
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Re: correction: YOU are a laughing stock***
Dec 2, 2014, 6:40 PM
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I would bet that even his Mother is very ashamed of him and his father. What a really poor comment to make!
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Is Clemson a laughing stock? News to me
Dec 2, 2014, 3:53 PM
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Shouldn't you be in the bread pan picking out dough
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Re: Is Clemson a laughing stock? News to me
Dec 2, 2014, 4:35 PM
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That's a great comeback man!
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Re: Is Clemson a laughing stock? News to me
Dec 2, 2014, 6:42 PM
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I do believe he gets the award for the dumbest post ever, and I usually am very kind to visitors to this site.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 3:53 PM
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My guess is that you were one of the ones screaming for Big Ralph when we hired Chad Morris.
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Sure, we should have interviewed him, he's a good OC***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:58 PM
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Re: Sure, we should have interviewed him, he's a good OC***
Dec 3, 2014, 12:35 AM
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fuatc
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Laughing stock?
Dec 2, 2014, 3:59 PM
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Nobody but you thinks Clemson is a laughing stock. In an earlier post you suggested that Clemson is a top level program and could therefore get a top-level OC. Now you're saying Clemson is a laughing stock. How can it be both? Surely you have a dizzying intellect.
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Re: Laughing stock?
Dec 2, 2014, 4:01 PM
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That would imply that he has an intellect.
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Re: Laughing stock?
Dec 2, 2014, 6:45 PM
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See my post below. I think there may be none of that.
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Re: Laughing stock?
Dec 2, 2014, 4:44 PM
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He's very conflicted..
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Re: Laughing stock?
Dec 2, 2014, 6:45 PM
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I don't really think so. It may be dizzying, but there doesn't seem to be any intellect.
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Re: Laughing stock?
Dec 2, 2014, 6:47 PM
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It's a quote from one of my favorite movies, "The Princess Bride" during the battle of wits.
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Re: Laughing stock?
Dec 3, 2014, 12:15 AM
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Good quote! I'll try and use it someday.
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Re: Laughing stock?
Dec 2, 2014, 6:54 PM
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Dizzying intellect - It's called sarcasm. Kinda figured that the dirt pecking idiot coot might think he's getting a compliment while I'm telling him what an idiot he is.
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notime to offer complaints
Dec 2, 2014, 3:59 PM
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With no suggestions.
The deal.is done.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:00 PM
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Go peck dirt!!!!!! COOT!!!!
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:03 PM
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If we are considered a laughingstock for naming Co-Offensive coordinators, I wonder what people think about FSU's season of antics & overall lack of disipline. Oh wait...
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:08 PM
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You act as if Dabo was surprised by CM leaving. He's known this was coming for a couple of years now. I wouldn't be surprised to find out that Scott and Elliott have been integral in the play calling for a while.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:09 PM
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Are you are an authority on coaches? I believe not and by looking at your pulse not much of a fan but more of an Idiot!
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:11 PM
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Smartest move ever! The majority of fans don't know much so I will break this down! 1. System and terminology stays the same 2. Players and recruits are familiar with both of them 3. College coaching is about the title you carry 4. Jeff Scott is happy with a pay increase but let him just recruit 5. BECAUSE IF U REALLY KNOW CLEMSON FOOTBALL TONY E IS A FREAKING ROCK STAR LET HIM AND HIM ALONE CALL PLAYS AND EVERYBODY WILL FORGET MORRIS IN TWO YEARS... GUARANTEED
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:14 PM
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I support the decision. Dabo's previous hires are rock solid.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:19 PM
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I hate fools like AllTimeClemson who doesn't know a coach from a dog trainer!
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Typical post for a fan of a team that has a chicken
Dec 2, 2014, 7:59 PM
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mascot wearing a dress.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:14 PM
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go on ack to your own board you piece of chicken poo
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Dabo said he had been planning this for some time.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:18 PM
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Why would he bother interviewing anyone else when he already planned this?
BTW, they both have more experience than Morris did...
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:24 PM
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LOL ... you tell em coot !
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Sounds like one or the other is packing a horse...
Dec 2, 2014, 4:27 PM
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-Doc
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Re: AllTimeCoot ain't flown the coop yet***
Dec 2, 2014, 9:16 PM
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Probably b/c the coop got crushed, and not enough time to pull in another double Decker bus....
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 4:43 PM
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And you think Chad Morris had experiance. One year as a college coach. Look how well he did. Think about it.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 9:19 PM
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Jeff Scott won a HS championship as a first time HC with a first time program start up.
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Why do most think this is a permanent move?
Dec 2, 2014, 5:00 PM
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Retaining both these guys is important and making them happy certainly helps solidify our great recruiting class.
Somewhere down the line, one or the other (or perhaps neither) will probably get the job.
But right now, this move is one that makes sense. Both guys get a raise and stay with Clemson.
Maybe one or the other proves himself worthy and gets the job, or maybe they both end up working for the guy who eventually gets hired.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 5:18 PM
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Lets see....
Will Muschamp worked out well in Florida, the combination of Lou Holtz and Steve Spurrier help South Carolina win two national championships and Lane Kiffin took Tennessee to the SEC championship in his ONE year.....
My point in mentioning those fallacies is that a name really means nothing. People called Clemson stupid for hiring this WR coach by the name of Dabo Swinney as the interim and then the Head Coach. Then they said it was dumb that he hired this "feathered upstart" Chad Morris who was only successful one year at something called Tulsa and brought with him his high school offense that he won state championships with in Texas. Then, in the worse move of all, he hired a "wash-up" D-Coodinator from Oklahoma after getting rid of a washed-up D-Coordinator from Alabama.
I don't know if you have noticed but all of those moves have worked out pretty well for the school, the fan base, and the conference. Just some prospective from the laughing stock that is Clemson.
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AllTimeClemson? uestion that name but if you don't like it..
Dec 2, 2014, 5:20 PM
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....freakin leave. We have more than enough fans to lose one that wants to be dumb. I guess you were one of the ones that didn't want to hire Dabo because he didn't have any Head Coaching experience, huh? Or Chad Morris because he was only one year removed from high school coaching? LET ME MAKE THIS CRYSTAL FREAKING CLEAR DABO LOVES CLEMSON AND WITH THAT SAID HE WOULD DO NOTHING THAT HE THOUGHT WASN'T RIGHT FOR CLEMSON OR THE BEST FOR CLEMSON. SO GET THE #### OVER YOURSELF. IF THAT IS THE WAY YOU OR ANYONE ELSE FEELS THEM LEAVE, BE A GAMECOCK BECAUSE I AM SICK AND TIRED OF CLIKING ON A POST I AM INTERESTED IN READING JUST TO SCROLL DOWN AND READ DUMB ANNOYING POST FROM PEOPLE THAT APPARENTLY DOESN'T KNOW BY NOW THAT DABO IS STRIVING TO BE NOTHING BUT THE BEST. SO IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT GET THE HECK AWAY FROM ANYTHING CLEMSON. Not saying you don't have the right to question things you don't like but quit acting like this is the end all be all and Dabo knows nothing because you're the only one that looks like the idiot at least let it play out then if it doesn't work you have a base for your argument but until then you look like a Gamecock hating on anything Clemson.....
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Dec 2, 2014, 5:55 PM
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Why hire someone external if you have the people you want? Swinney had ZERO experience, and he's done just fine with this program
You are one of the laughing stocks of Tigernet, and the populace in general
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Laughingstock?
Dec 2, 2014, 6:18 PM
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We've been one of the best teams in the country over the last several years. What team are you referring to???
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 2, 2014, 6:36 PM
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Do you really think Clemson is a "laughing stock"? Really? You may want to flop back over to fgf oh little feathered one.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 3, 2014, 3:08 PM
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Laughing stock of what? You need to get a life.
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Re: Dumbest. Move. Ever.
Dec 3, 2014, 3:12 PM
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check out a mirror if you want to see a laughing stock
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Can't wait to hear Old Neckbeard in the stands yelling
Dec 2, 2014, 3:55 PM
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at two coordinators
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I trust coach on this one
Dec 2, 2014, 3:57 PM
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I had a feeling right when I heard rumor of Morris going to SMU that Scott would be the man but I didn't think of this scenario. I still have faith Dabo made the right decision. He has made great hires so far. Good luck Scott and Tony. Bring us that title
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Well he has had to fire 2 of his hires
Dec 2, 2014, 4:21 PM
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OC - Napier DC - Steele
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omg. Dude, make a frickin' decision.***
Dec 2, 2014, 3:59 PM
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dec 2, 2014, 4:00 PM
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Look, I like Jeff Scott and Tony Elliot... a lot. They're great recruiters. Maybe they will turn out to be a fantastic OC one day... but they both have zero experience. We're operating from a position monetarily where we could have hired nearly any OC in the country and instead we hire two guys who aren't qualified. Clemson is a top 25-15 program in the country. This isn't a "learn on the job" type of place.
In reality this means Dabo is calling plays, and we've seen how that went before.
To all of the people suggesting we had to do this to keep our best recruiters, I say hogwash. If they succeed here as OC... they will leave. If they fail... they will be fired. When you have success, all of your people will leave for better positions. It's part of life. You can't make major decisions like this out of fear of something like that.
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Re: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dec 2, 2014, 4:10 PM
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How much experience did Morris have before Clemson?? Both Scott and Elliott have more. Great move. I love the promoting within, should have little impact on recruiting (shouldn't lose recruits already committed).
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moris had years of play calling
Dec 2, 2014, 4:19 PM
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before he came to Clemson just not on the college level. But I think Scott and Elliott will do a good job. I would like to see Brandon streeter back at Clemson too
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Wow, never crossed my mind that if a OC is successful he
Dec 2, 2014, 8:07 PM
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might leave for a head coaching job.
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Re: Wow, never crossed my mind that if a OC is successful he
Dec 2, 2014, 9:30 PM
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Are you saying that if Jeff and Tony does good, we may lose two at once.
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This makes it easier to keep both of them IF it doesn't work
Dec 2, 2014, 9:06 PM
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If it fails he can bring in another OC, another assistant could "retire" and keep both Jeff and Tony. I think this is brilliant. Dabo knows if he puts Jeff in alone and it fails, he will have to fire him. This way he can spread the blame if it fails and hang onto him.
If it works, Jeff and Tony benefit.
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Re: Nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Dec 2, 2014, 9:33 PM
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They don't have zero experience. Scott has been with Clemson longer than Chad Morris. Zero experience would be if oneveryone of us on this thread was hired, which would be terrible. They just haven't had a chance at the new position. Every coach in the NFL, or, college for that matter has been through this process. Relax. Let's see how it pans out.
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Jeff Scott
Dec 2, 2014, 4:01 PM
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Don't claim to really know anyone on the staff personally.... But they all seem soft to me on the offensive staff.
Who is going be the bad "cop" when the team needs modivating...just don't see it. Oh well, its not like its going matter what we think.
If we fall to 6-6, we can try again in 2017 to get "it right".
And yea, yea....might work too. But why flip a coin. #21
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If it fails, it may be easier to keep both of them on staff
Dec 2, 2014, 9:13 PM
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Especially if he is anticipating another coach leaving in the future. If Jeff or Tony as sole OC and it fails, he would almost have to fire them. As co coordinators, he can spread the blame and maybe hold onto them as they are valuable recruiters
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 4:04 PM
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I hope it's a good move. Something tells me it was more about recruiting than about coaching. But, hey, the Optimist Club and Rotary Club usually have Co-Chairmen or something don't they?
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Wow. Just...Wow***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:14 PM
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I actually am a fan of this move but...
Dec 2, 2014, 4:17 PM
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I am hoping we have plans to hire a QB coach...that was Morris' strength and I don't think either of these guys will help develop that position...I could be wrong. I think this is a good move though for sure.
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Re: I actually am a fan of this move but...
Dec 2, 2014, 4:21 PM
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I am with you...who is taking the QB's?
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Re: I actually am a fan of this move but...
Dec 2, 2014, 4:21 PM
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Works for Aubarn. Lashley & Craig co-coordinators while Malhzon calls plays.
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Re: I actually am a fan of this move but...
Dec 2, 2014, 4:50 PM
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Now you are throwing logic into it!?!?!?!
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So, who calls our plays ... ??
Dec 2, 2014, 5:03 PM
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Dabo?
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Also, Deshaun Watson and Cole Stoudt named co-starters...
Dec 2, 2014, 4:25 PM
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...for Bowl game.
J/k, but this offensive coordinator move just got really, and I mean REALLY confusing.
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I hope this is just an interim appointment until Dabo....
Dec 2, 2014, 4:25 PM
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....has a chance to review all options out there in a systematic and thorough manner. I would assume Morris leaving really frees our purse strings as The Chad was one of the highest paid OC's in all of college football...at one time the highest paid.
This is probably exactly what we need short term to deal with the upcoming bowl game and to avoid concerns on the recruiting side.
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Interim appointment? Serious?***
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 4:26 PM
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Foolishly unnecessary risk. Would Bama & top programs do it?***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:36 PM
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Re: Foolishly unnecessary risk. Would Bama & top programs do it?***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:50 PM
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Check out Auburn....last time I checked they were a top program....
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No! Malzahn and Lashlee BOTH have D1 OC experience.***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:58 PM
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Re: Foolishly unnecessary risk. Would Bama & top programs do it?***
Dec 2, 2014, 4:53 PM
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Deja vu. I remember Tnet when Clemson named Dabo as head coach; and when Morris (high school coach with little college experience). I believe this exact statement was made, over and over. Time will tell, but so far Dabo has made a terrific impact on our program and has made great decisions, both OC and DC gone (Spence, Koenning) - Dabos call .
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Dabo hired Napier & Steele, led us to 6-7 during HC training
Dec 2, 2014, 5:05 PM
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Dabo under-performed his player talent in his early on-the-job training years, taking multiple losses to teams with inferior player-talent, including losing the ACC to GT, and going 6-7 with a team full of future NFLers. Imagine what would have happened if Clemson had hired a great head coach instead of letting Dabo learn how to be a head coach through on-the-job training.
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Re: Dabo hired Napier & Steele, led us to 6-7 during HC training
Dec 2, 2014, 5:19 PM
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You may have a point with Napier (Dabo promoted, did not hire). However, Steele was the Big Name Coach and look how he worked for us. Now, he may win a National Championship for Alabama.
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Re: Dabo hired Napier & Steele, led us to 6-7 during HC training
Dec 2, 2014, 5:23 PM
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Steele is not the DC at bama so your comment is moot
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Re: Dabo hired Napier & Steele, led us to 6-7 during HC training
Dec 2, 2014, 5:38 PM
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Actually, the point was that he was the "big name" coach that all the critics thought was a great hire. But, ended up not the best hire after all. I still have nightmares about the WVU game. Soooo embarrassing.
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And hired Kiffen after USC was awful***
Dec 2, 2014, 5:59 PM
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USC was mediocre UNDER MASSIVE SANCTIONS!***
Dec 2, 2014, 7:26 PM
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I'm saying Dabo failed learn from Saban's mistake.
Dec 2, 2014, 7:37 PM
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I enjoyed Clemson beating SCar far more than I enjoyed the record-setting 5-straight spankings that Spurrier laid on Dabo-- even though Spurrier had slightly less-talented players.
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Sure!!!***
Dec 2, 2014, 8:16 PM
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Why don't some of you stop playing coach and support Dabo's decision?
Dec 2, 2014, 4:39 PM
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Why are you going to question Dabo's decision when NONE of you are around these guys everyday? Do you think Dabo is trying to lose the bowl game? If he thinks this is the best decision for his football team right now then I support it and so should those of you who are questioning him. I personally believe Jeff Scott is a great coach. He will make the most of this opportunity and so will Tony Elliot. Lets see how this works out before we start saying how stupid of decision this was.
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Re: Why don't some of you stop playing coach and support Dabo's decision?
Dec 2, 2014, 4:50 PM
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I couldn't agree more... suddenly, everyone's an expert. Truth told, if we hired the best OC in the universe tomorrow, he would NOT realistically be in a position to plan and run the bowl game in less than 4 weeks. Scott and Elliot have total familiarity with the players and the plays.
Let's support the coaching staff... they get paid a lot of money to do their jobs, and let's not forget that in the last 4 years, they have won 41 games!
Go Tigers!
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Re: Why don't some of you stop playing coach and support Dabo's decision?
Dec 2, 2014, 4:58 PM
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Truth be told, there are people here that would whine and cry even if Clemson hired the best OC in the country. Not being very supportive of the Tigers!!!!!
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Re: Why don't some of you stop playing coach and support Dabo's decision?
Dec 2, 2014, 5:04 PM
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No one can satisfy these idiots! These idiots have been against Dabo from the get go! I have worked with many people like that in my 67 years and these type people try to pull everyone down around them to their miserable lives! I am so sick of these type people!
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Re: Why don't some of you stop playing coach and support Dabo's decision?
Dec 2, 2014, 5:13 PM
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Couldn't agree with you more! It's easy to point things out, but unless you are in the game, you don't know the things that go on behind the scenes. Either 2 things can happen: We get 2 amazing coordinators at a great price who will do amazing things for our offense or it turns out to be a dud in which Dabo will either have to correct by hiring from the outside, or it will cost him his job. I trust Dabo and he has had to fire coordinators in the past if they were not working out. Clemson gave him a golden opportunity so he is loyal to the school. Jeff and Tony are both alumni who now have a chance to lead their alumni to the next level. ALL IN baby!!! As for Morris, I wish the guy the very best, but couldn't help but think he was trying to move on to bigger and better things because after his 1st year, he was looking. I also questioned the play calling this year. He was first innovated, but this year, his play calling decisions were questioned a lot! I think it is a win win situation with him leaving us when he did. His best decision? Probably not, but after this year, I believe he needed to go. And besides, next year will be a better year, no Stoudt (I mean doubt)!
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A healthy Watson
Dec 2, 2014, 4:58 PM
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A healthy Watson's going to make any coach look good
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This is not a problem at all, makes perfect sense
Dec 2, 2014, 5:01 PM
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look at it this way:
The playbook is already in hand and they've both been around 4 years so they know it. The players already know it. All they need to do is agree who is going to take the lead on playcalling during each game.
Deshaun and the skill guys could make anybody look good running this offense. 9 out of 10 times it ain't the plays or the play calls that decide a game, it's the execution, ie; the accuracy of the pass and/or the proper blocking assignments all attended to and done right.
We're going to put up tons of points and one of the two is going to get offered an OC job at another school and we'll be all set. All we need peace and harmony on offense, this is fine.
And if perhaps between the two of them they can minimize the unnecessary risk of running our still undersized QB too often and taking shotgun QB sneaks from the 1 yard line, we will probably be A-OK. Oh, and cut down on the dang gimmickry and trickeration. And we need a bigger O-Line.
Go Tigers
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Re: This is not a problem at all, makes perfect sense
Dec 2, 2014, 6:13 PM
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knowing the playbook isn't the same of feeling/knowing the right call in any given situation
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Re: This is not a problem at all, makes perfect sense
Dec 2, 2014, 10:24 PM
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Maybe I'm missing something here, but I don't think CM was "feeling" and "knowing" the right call in every given situation. IMHO, as good as CM was as an OC, he didn't seem to be able to make the "big calls" in the "big games" with any level of consistency. Take a look at the "big" opportunities this year and honestly evaluate whether CM made the right calls. I'm not being critical-- just realistic. I would also point out that all of us "Monday morning quarterbacks" have the benefit of 20:20 hindsight.
Again, let's get behind the coaches as long as they're coaching our Tigers... when they leave Clemson, well, that's another story all together.
Go Tigers!
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This is an Audition
Dec 2, 2014, 5:04 PM
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If this is a shock for you, raise your hand? Okay this is an audition. And it will happen during "Bowl Season." I bet you Swinney picks one by March. Whichever one he decides, he will look to fill the skill position of the winner. Like the idea. I mean if one of them can find a way to take down the #1 defense in three weeks, they deserve the OC position....
Just my take....
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I don't believe this is an "audition"
Dec 2, 2014, 8:07 PM
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If this were just an audition, wouldn't Dabo named them interim coordinators? If he brings in someone else after the bowl game, it would look like a demotion of Scott and Eliot. I don't think that would look good at all. I think this is for the long haul.
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If this had happened last year at this time...
Dec 2, 2014, 5:09 PM
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I would have said dumb move, but Dabo just beat the chickens and went 9-3. He was a knats hair away from beating FSU (if CM had had a under the center one yard play), so I'm saying go for it. I'm like the college football coaches these days "I'm all in until the next time I'm not." Its all about money to them, and its all about winning to me.
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Re: If this had happened last year at this time...
Dec 2, 2014, 5:11 PM
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I hit the g in gnats I don't know how a K showed up so before you intellects start bombing me!
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 5:10 PM
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Sometimes when you have two it means you don't have one.
Would rather one or the other be the OC, preferably Scott.
And didn’t we try this set-up with Jeff’s dad Brad Scott & Mike O’Cain?
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Not sold on this at all!
Dec 2, 2014, 5:14 PM
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NM
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 5:16 PM
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I like that the decision was quick. No waiting games being played. Don't give a crap who calls the friggin' plays as long as they work. GO TIGERS!
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 5:22 PM
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Not to decide, is to decide.
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 5:24 PM
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Shouldnt you be on fgf crying and ranting?
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 5:51 PM
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Cupton you are really starting to get on my nerves. All you do is go around and run your mouth at people and agitating everyone. You need a good ole fashion ### whipping.
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Says the internet tough guy.
Dec 3, 2014, 6:40 AM
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By the way - quit freeloading and you can correct your spelling.
At least by donating your sense of entitlement to spew your mess will have some basis in reality.
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 6:09 PM
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I saw others mentioning these things. Dabo had no experience. Chad Morris had no college playcalling experience. Coordinator doesn't solely involve calling plays. So why are people ignoring these comments?! And for the people comparing high school playcalling to elite level d-1 playcalling all I can do is LOL. In high school the level of player and coach talent is apples to oranges and not even a fair comparison.
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Still need to go out and get a good QB coach.******
Dec 2, 2014, 6:10 PM
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 6:12 PM
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idiocy
"i've got a 20 million dollar buyout and I will do what I want"
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 6:15 PM
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I cannot believe Mike William is only a 2nd Team All ACC receiver. Wow! Did Swoffie pick the team?
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Wake up DAs! This is a recruiting coup. Two of the best.***
Dec 2, 2014, 6:15 PM
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Re: Wake up DAs! This is a recruiting coup. Two of the best.***
Dec 2, 2014, 6:18 PM
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nothing like watching our players kick ### for Buffalo or Pittsburgh while we don't even get to the conference championship game
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They weren't calling the plays or starting Cole...***
Dec 2, 2014, 6:20 PM
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One is leaving
Dec 2, 2014, 6:23 PM
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The way I read it is it's short term here. If that is correct and he hires one of them as the sole OC, then the other is probably going to leave. I feel like it is Scott's job to lose though. I don't think we would want either of them to leave b/c of the recruiting abilities that they both have. I can only hope that Dabo knows what he is doing with this. I know Scott has been groomed for the position under CM, just hope his play calling decisions will not leave us wondering "why did he call that?" more often than not.
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Re: One is leaving
Dec 2, 2014, 6:48 PM
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Well, the good news is we only have to wait 12 months to see who is correct and none of us will lose a job if Dabo is wrong.
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I like the move
Dec 2, 2014, 6:24 PM
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Both guys have shown that they are able to not only grab the attention of high caliber athletes but make an impact when they arrive on campus. We don't know how much influence these guys had in game planning over the past years and obviously they did enough to convince Dabo and the administration that they are up to the challenge. Could be a dynamic duo if one sits up in the box reading defenses while the other calls the plays
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The dad of a 2015 commit stopped by earlier today and
Dec 2, 2014, 6:29 PM
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he said that from his experience Jeff Scott is very much a mom n pop/ player kind of guy and that they think it is a good decision. Or at the very least, they liked the choice. Insider's perspective fwiw...
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Hey its my turn! No its mine! Dabo likes me better than you!
Dec 2, 2014, 6:44 PM
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No he doesn't. Lets run it! I say we pass it!. I hate you! I am tellen Dabo! Tattle tale!
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I hope this isn't Billy Napier 2.0
Dec 2, 2014, 8:02 PM
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Anyone else remember that forgetful year?
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Re: I hope this isn't Billy Napier 2.0
Dec 2, 2014, 8:37 PM
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Don't even make me think about it. We have some mojo right now and we don't need to screw it up with a bad decision.
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 8:18 PM
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I really don't like this move. We are the Clemson freaking Tigers! We can have just about anybody we want to run our offense and we chose these guys from inside the program. I hope I'm wrong but this could be a huge mistake.
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Re: New Story: Dabo made the right decision
Dec 2, 2014, 8:40 PM
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I think Dabo made the right call on this one. I don't think, al though I may be wrong, that Tony or Jeff were going anywhere. Dabo has made some bizarre decisions according to a lot of people, but look where the Tigers are now. Nationally ranked, elite recruiting classes and.high graduation rates. He made his decision to have Co-Coordinators. He also was able to keep 2 Coaches that are great as position coaches. Best thing he kept 2 dynamic recruiters that know talent, raw or polished. It will be interesting to see how it works out, but I think it was a great move.to promote from within the Tiger Staff. GO TIGERS!!!
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 9:07 PM
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Basically we're back to the same situation we had with the race between Stoudt and Watson in the beginning....but now with OCs. Awesome.
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 10:29 PM
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We all need to step back from the ledge. Coaching "titles" are just that. Although they do carry some "hierarchical" weight, they also help to justify salaries. I do believe Dabo has had a plan for the departure of Chad since the day CM arrived on campus. I also believe that he has delegated dedicated responsibilities to each OC...the man knows people and he has learned from his prior mistakes (note to self:see Napier and Steele). It's not just about title...recruiting, player confidence and coaching staff stability and continuity play a big part of successful, long running programs...so step back and take a deep breath...the ledge will still be there next year and the following, and if things DO go south, I'll see you there then.
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 2, 2014, 10:20 PM
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I have never heard of co-coordinators. This could lead to problems if there is not a hierarchy in place to handle decision making. Also, it seems to me Elliot and Scott could consciencely or unconsciencely be thinking the job must be too big for me to handle by myself. It might be interpreted as a lack of confidence by Dabo in them as individuals to do the job. This job may eventually become a turnoff for both Elliot and Scott. I hope it does not.
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My first reaction was: "really?!". My initial
Dec 3, 2014, 12:09 AM
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Reaction hasn't changed! I had the same reaction to Dabo taking over head coaching position. Same reaction with Chad Morris. He turned out great! Is this a sign Dabo has had contact with Florida?! If so, is Venerables ready to be the Head Coach?! What would that mean?! A more pro style offense?! Ugh! Uncertainty is the worst!
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 3, 2014, 12:38 AM
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Everyone relax...First off, a lot can change in the next 9 months. Secondly, Co-Offensive Coordinators doesn't mean two guys are fighting like children on the sideline over whether to run the ball or throw it. There's much more to being an offensive coordinator than calling plays. Having two bright young minds building a new gameplan every week is more beneficial than one bright mind. I think these guys will work together very well behind closed doors to make our offense work. On gameday I think Jeff Scott will be the main man calling the shots with Dabo giving his input at times just like he did with Chad Morris.
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 3, 2014, 7:46 AM
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Someone should tell Dabo you can't ride two horses with one ###.
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Re: New Story: Swinney Names Co-Offensive Coordinators
Dec 3, 2014, 7:56 AM
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Awwww! This is terrible.
Some Frog team in Texas got co-offensive coordinators this season, and their offense sucks! They haven't broken 100 in a game all season! They're AWFUL!
As a former CEO of a thriving worm farm and a frequent sleeper at Holiday Inn Express, I can't for the life of me see how this could work out at all! We're dooooomed! Dooooomed!
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