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What does FSU have in hoops that we...

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 8:48 PM
 

Can't get?

They play in a dump in the Tucker Center. Don't even draw fans there as well as we do...


A coach that weathered the storm of bad early years***

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 8:50 PM
 



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Re: A coach that weathered the storm of bad early years***

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 8:54 PM
 

Hamilton also took over a program in really bad shape. Similar to what OP took over from Stuart. It's not apples and apples with Hamilton and Brownell here...


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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:02 PM
 

OP Took over from a guy named Larry Shyatt.


Who is Stuart? Just how stupid are you?***


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:05 PM
 




Re: Who is Stuart? Just how stupid are you?***


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:14 PM
 

CM Shack said:




It's called auto correct. Lol. My bad...


Big men want to play for FSU because of Leonard***

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 8:51 PM
 




***Paging Judge Keller******


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 8:52 PM
 



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Re: ***Paging Judge Keller******

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 8:59 PM
 

Hamilton owns Brad in his record against him, that's for sure. OP had a winning record vs Leonard.


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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 8:59 PM
 

Talent?

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A coach who can recruit.

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:00 PM
 

It’s all about coaching and elite coach can win anywhere and a bad coach can lose anywhere just look at Matt Doherty at UNC. And I can give you dozens of examples in football and basketball that it’s all about coaching .


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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:03 PM
 

A coach who wants to win


Good Lord***


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:05 PM
 




Re: Good Lord***

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:16 PM
 

I know, that’s what I say at the end of almost every season. Please tell me when you’ve ever heard Brownell talk about the ACC championship, or the national championship, or any kind of championship? he doesn’t because he knows he’s not going to win it, he’s just gonna put coin in his bank account and let you clowns defend him


You’re right, Brad can’t think about championships


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:57 PM
 

until Clemson decides it wants to start supporting basketball at a reasonable level.

Being 14th out of 15 ACC teams in basketball spending isn’t going to cut it.

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So...you’re just going to wait...


Posted: Mar 16, 2019 6:51 AM
 

Collect your $2.5 Million salary, and wait until admin will spend some money on basketball? Think about how ridiculous that is.

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Re: You’re right, Brad can’t think about championships

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Posted: Mar 16, 2019 8:06 AM
 

Spend more money. That’s worked great for the education system too. ??

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Re: You’re right, Brad can’t think about championships

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Posted: Mar 16, 2019 8:12 AM
 

Dude your every comment is to do about money. Money money money.
Shut up already! Your excuses are nauseating judge! You’re such an apologist


Re: You’re right, Brad can’t think about championships

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Posted: Mar 16, 2019 8:30 AM
 

You realize that money wasn’t what fixed football right? It’s not like the administration said here’s a ton of money and we started winning.

Dabo was one of the lowest paid coaches in the ACC when he got the job. However, he had a vision for his program and sold it to the administration and donors. Guess what... thanks to him he got his money and now he has success. If Brad isn’t getting his money that’s on him, not Clemson. Clemson obviously is committed to winning in sports under DRad... BB just needs to sell his vision assuming he has one.


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Posted: Mar 16, 2019 8:37 AM
 

Brad is being paid well. I think Judge Keller is talking about player facilities for recruiting. That helped Dabo too with the upgrades.

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I think you're right but a few of our foundation guys


Posted: Mar 16, 2019 8:42 AM
 

in Football came before most of those upgrades. Guys like Spiller, Boyd, Watkins, Nuke, etc... Came to Clemson before all the new toys Dabo has now.


Re: I think you're right but a few of our foundation guys


Posted: Mar 16, 2019 8:46 AM
 

Exactly my point. Money did not bring us football success. Dabo and his vision did. It brought players, better fan support, winning, and that makes the business case to invest into the shiny toys we have today easy.

Money doesn’t fix basketball. A coach with a plan does.


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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:20 PM
 

A coach that knows what kind of players fit his needs and can go get them.
I’m sorry but stud players do not want to play for a coach like BB.


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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:24 PM
 

We even pay more for our coach. They are getting a lot more for their $...

https://twitter.com/FireBrownell/status/1106317662290759682?s=20


Why do you keep reposting what that jerk tweets?***


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 10:27 PM
 



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Posted: Mar 16, 2019 8:25 AM
 

That's what I was going to say basically. Recruiting is the key. They have players from all over (even 2 foreign) but the biggest percentage of players are from GA and FL. Tiger football gets the best from GA and FL, why can't baskeball do the same?

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Re: What does FSU have in hoops that we...

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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:26 PM
 

Got give Leonard Hamilton props.All I ever hear on wccp is him being a bad xs and os coach yet he owns our great xs and os coach.The man knocked off Va. Hamilton can recruit and therein lies your answer.Recruiting is the key and BB can't consistently recruit on this level.


BB doesn't even run an offense and our defense is awful


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:44 PM
 

NOT a great X and O coach....not even below average


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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 9:30 PM
 

FSU spends 2x what Clemson spends on basketball. They also have a better recruiting territory as 30-40% of their players are from Florida or lower Georgia


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Posted: Mar 15, 2019 10:01 PM
 

100x more instate d1 basketball players


LOL - only 1 of their top 8 players is from FLA.


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 10:16 PM
 

As for the superior in state talent, there are also 100x more schools (instate and out) competing for their services. Florida has 100x more football talent than SC also, yet we've always recruited pretty well there. The greater availability of in state talent is not the reason FSU consistently has superior talent nor the reason they have gone to the NCAA tournament 6 times during Brad Brownell's tenure.

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Exactly! Why should they be able... .


Posted: Mar 15, 2019 10:25 PM
 

to build a strong program? What are they doing?


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