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Why exactly did we invite Louisville into ACC?
Jun 1, 2013, 7:54 PM
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I'm not impressed with their fans or their player's lack of class. Never had been. It started with the Denny Crum years in bball.
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Re: Why exactly did we invite Louisville into ACC?
Jun 1, 2013, 7:55 PM
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lack of class?
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Re: Why exactly did we invite Louisville into ACC?
Jun 1, 2013, 7:58 PM
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Also they were invited due to their Athletic Department being very well rounded. Their fans have been great the times I have been around them.
I didnt know that players showing emotion was "lack of class".
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Re: Why exactly did we invite Louisville into ACC?
Jun 1, 2013, 8:01 PM
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i like the hustle and passion, looks like they enjoy winning
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Maybe Clemson should show less class too.***
Jun 1, 2013, 8:03 PM
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strongest all around athletic program we have added in the
Jun 1, 2013, 8:13 PM
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last 10 years of expansion (and in their case "replacement") bonanza.
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So you would have preferred UCONN, Cincy or USF over
Jun 1, 2013, 8:17 PM
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Louisville? Good Gawd!!
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Because there weren't enough teams in the conference
Jun 1, 2013, 8:21 PM
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already that can beat the snot out of our basketball team.
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Re: Because there weren't enough teams in the conference
Jun 2, 2013, 8:12 AM
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Ringknocker.....the list of schools that can beat the basketball program is long. An many not nearly as distinguished as Louisville. Heck, Coastal Carolina now has a winning streak going against Clemson. They cannot even win that powerhouse conference known as the Big South.
As far as all the academic talk on here. Some of you stray from reality a bit. The student athlete deal is really a bit of a joke. Everyone acts like Clemson recruits kids that could gain entry into an Ivy League school. Just like most other sports programs that is so far from the truth. 95% of the athletes in Clemson's main sports couldn't come close to qualifying as a normal student. Same as every sports program. And once they get to campus they are have their hands held with a variety of support, and tutors, that a normal student could only dream of.
And as for Clemson's valiant stand for academics when USC pulled out of the ACC when it was the only conference in the country requiring a 900 on the SAT versus an 800. Not long after the ACC changed their requirements, and Clemson was right on board with the changes to league rules. But then again, maybe Clemson can win another football game against USC sometime again in the future and then you will have something else to brag about besides Barker taking all the Yankee frosh, with high SATs who want to come south to avoid the high tuition up north.
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Zero academic status
Jun 1, 2013, 8:23 PM
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Even below $ec schools, and well below U$uC.
6 year graduation rate is a pathetic 51%.
But yes, they have good athletic teams. I'm just not a fan of schools being a front for semi-pro teams. And UL is a prime example.
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Re: Zero academic status
Jun 1, 2013, 8:25 PM
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Who gives a crap. It is an athletic conference. I doubt Vandy minds being in the SEC.
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I give a crap. ACC has always been strong academically
Jun 1, 2013, 8:31 PM
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That's been a source of pride. Heck, that's why u$uC left the ACC: they wanted to recruit dumber athletes. Seems to be working well for them. BUT, academics matter. That's why Clemson exists in the firs place.
There are plenty of pro teams that people can pull for. I'm ready for the return to a STUDENT-athlete environment --- away from the ATHLETE-student.
Just one man's opinion.
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Re: I give a crap. ACC has always been strong academically
Jun 2, 2013, 9:14 AM
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That sounds noble, but college athletics is a business now. (and has been for quite some time)
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Re: Why exactly did we invite Louisville into ACC?
Jun 1, 2013, 8:28 PM
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They will be one of the top 3-4 teams in all sports instantly, and you're worried about class? Lol you are an absolute buffoon.
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You are obviously too young to understand
Jun 1, 2013, 8:35 PM
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Academics matters. You'll eventually understand that a Clemson degree means something. And that a Louisville and a UCF degree mean much less.
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Re: You are obviously too young to understand
Jun 1, 2013, 9:25 PM
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Academics definitely matter when it comes to the real world, but not on the field/court. Am I happy Clemson has good academics? Obviously. I wasn't an athlete while at Clemson(outside of my championship-level alcohol consumption and tolerance), so it benefited me...
However I don't think I've ever seen a Clemson athlete hold out a degree mid-game and say "Ha! A potential advantage in getting an entry-level position at a company!"
Overall, using academics in an athletic conversation is just a way for fans to justify losing or make some kind of weak excuse.
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Well put.
Jun 1, 2013, 9:33 PM
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I gurantee if you ask most major college athletes their reasons for going to a certain school over another the answer would be to get to the next level athletically.
A good example would be Mike Minor. Went to Vaderbilt but instead of using a degree from there, I'm not sure he stayed all four years anyways, he pitches in the Major Leagues.
Christian Ponder was a pretty good academic student but instead he makes more money as an NFL quarterback.
Most college athletes make their living in the "normal work force" but they play athletics in college to make it to the next level, not because a school has good academics.
If that were the case then wouldn't Duke excel in football as well as basketball?
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Re: Well put.
Jun 1, 2013, 9:46 PM
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Don't forget Myron Rolle, the extremely smart and talented guy who chose Florida State, a school not known for it's academic power...however he's definitely not your typical student, let alone student athlete.
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FSU is a top 100 school. Louisville is not a top 150 school
Jun 1, 2013, 10:23 PM
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But who cares about academics.
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Re: FSU is a top 100 school. Louisville is not a top 150 school
Jun 1, 2013, 10:57 PM
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Top 100, yes...but #97. Regardless, FSU is not known for its academics.
Ultimately though, we shouldn't really be putting too much into the academic status of a school when it comes to their athletic performances as long as there isn't rampant cheating.
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Re: FSU is a top 100 school. Louisville is not a top 150 school
Jun 2, 2013, 9:18 AM
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Agreed.
Touting your institution's academic reputation is an excuse usually used when your athletic team is losing.
I would rather retain a good/great academic institution that wins on
the athletic fields as well. (but not at all cost, like SC has done)
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Just curious, who does have classy fans?
Jun 1, 2013, 8:39 PM
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Seems like every school, Clemson included, has its boneheads.
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And you believe those players earned those grades?
Jun 1, 2013, 8:43 PM
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And you believe they are improving their overall academics? I hope that is true.
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Re: And you believe those players earned those grades?
Jun 1, 2013, 9:51 PM
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I would say there is a much greater chance that they earned the grades than a school like...UNC.
Give them a chance--I do believe they are trying.
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If U$uC can keep Clowney academically eligible
Jun 1, 2013, 8:46 PM
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I'm not sure what that says for their academics. And I suspect that says that any school can find a way to give good grades to athletes. And that is sad statement regarding higher education in this country and their entire NCAA Student-Athlete concept.
That said, I love my Clemson Tigers. Clemson has a nice balance between academics and athletics, or at least I think so.
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Re: If U$uC can keep Clowney academically eligible
Jun 2, 2013, 10:32 AM
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I remember them saying the same about William Perry.I'm glad Dabo is doing things right. There's a lot to be said for that
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Re: If U$uC can keep Clowney academically eligible
Jun 2, 2013, 10:45 AM
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this has to be a JOKE,,, right??? if he is alive the dirty c$$ts will play him even if he never goes to another class!!
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So we need to oust the tar holes then, no integrity there***
Jun 1, 2013, 9:08 PM
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class lol
Jun 1, 2013, 9:11 PM
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Why does everyone on here talk about class all the time? Very self-righteous
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People with low pulses (and coots) will never get it.***
Jun 1, 2013, 9:26 PM
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Re: People with low pulses (and coots) will never get it.***
Jun 1, 2013, 9:35 PM
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anybody try because as it currently sits the ACC is a s### football conference outside of us and FSU, and cincy and uconn are garbage football programs, and at the end of the day in todays world football is all that matters becuase its where the money is and one bad acdemic school won't hurt anybody..... louisville to the ACC has exactly zero effect on how good a clemson degree is
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Re:BULL. Clemson and FSU are not that far ahead of the
Jun 1, 2013, 11:27 PM
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rest.
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Self Aware - Coot Loser***
Jun 1, 2013, 11:30 PM
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Because Maryland is joining the Big 10.***
Jun 1, 2013, 9:13 PM
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Re: Why exactly did we invite Louisville into ACC?
Jun 1, 2013, 9:26 PM
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Conferences were formed for athletics. Louisville's sub standard academics will not harm your Clemson degree at all. I used to recruit for my company which is one of the very largest in the country. Unless you were Ivy League, Military Academy or three or four others, it had little to no effect on hiring. It was the individual. An example would be if I interviewed a candidate from Louisville and one from North Carolina we would select the one who impressed us most. Didn't matter where he went to school.
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Rock Defender [53]
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i attended clemson
Jun 1, 2013, 9:44 PM
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there is not more moral fiber there anywhere else
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Re: i attended clemson
Jun 1, 2013, 9:56 PM
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If you attended Clemson you would be smart enough to properly use the board. Therefore you are full of ####.
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Because Papa John's pizza is darn good.
Jun 1, 2013, 9:51 PM
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Re: Because Papa John's pizza is darn good.
Jun 1, 2013, 10:10 PM
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This is the most offensive post on this thread haha
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Rock Defender [53]
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i trasferred
Jun 1, 2013, 10:06 PM
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when i realized i was the only one on campus who thought it wasn't the greatest place on Earth
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Re: i trasferred
Jun 1, 2013, 10:08 PM
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Judging by your command of the English language I am guessing you are full of ####. That plus you still don't know how to use the board.
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Good for you.
Jun 1, 2013, 10:09 PM
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And good for Clemson as well.
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Very good link!
Jun 1, 2013, 10:46 PM
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Thank you for sharing that. I presented lots of good facts and thoughts.
But it is basically comparing Louisville to only two options: Maryland and UCONN. Surely there are another options? And there were several notes saying that Louisville's "academics are a legitimate concern". How dare they mention academics?  I never read anything alleviating those concerns other than UL having a law school and a med school. So do several Caribbean islands.
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Re: Heck, S C has those and they have not done anything for
Jun 1, 2013, 11:31 PM
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them.
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Because Maryland Is Leaving And We Need Someone To Take ...
Jun 1, 2013, 11:31 PM
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their place .... WVU was deemed unworthy by the ACC a few years back because not academically good enough ... Louisville is??? !!!
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Re: Because Maryland Is Leaving And We Need Someone To Take ...
Jun 2, 2013, 9:22 AM
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I think the ACC should have been more proactive in expanding the ACC before Maryland left.
Having an athletic conference with 2 of the three largest media markets (NYC/DC) should have been a significant advantage.
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If we're judging based on "class"...
Jun 2, 2013, 10:50 AM
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Why are FSU and Miami still in the ACC??
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Because it was a good move?
Jun 2, 2013, 10:57 AM
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They're a fast, physical team with an ellite qb and great coach. Plus they beat the crap out of Florida.
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