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110%er [6219]
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Trump continues to promote unproven drugs
Apr 6, 2020, 1:02 PM
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Everything that comes out of his mouth is a lie.
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All-In [47750]
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You got any proven drugs?
Apr 6, 2020, 1:03 PM
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At least his has antedotal evidence...
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What? That's not how this works...***
Apr 6, 2020, 1:15 PM
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You want to wait 18 months?I guarantee your scok
Apr 6, 2020, 1:19 PM
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Would ask for it if you were in the hospital
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I don't get the libs argument. It's got good early results.
Apr 6, 2020, 1:17 PM
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Nothing else to take. Take a shot.
It's not like he's said this was a cure.
But libs gotta lib
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If by "good" mean "inconclusive" then sure.
Apr 6, 2020, 1:18 PM
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Would you take the drug right now if it was available? I'd hope not...
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Yes and you are a poor excuse for a human***
Apr 6, 2020, 1:20 PM
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can't say i'm surprised.. cult members gonna cult.***
Apr 6, 2020, 1:22 PM
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or... we just think you shouldn't promote an unproven
Apr 6, 2020, 1:20 PM
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drug as a fix. I hope he's right and it works but trump just spews bs so we can't really take him at his word now can we.
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As long as he's not saying they're proven
Apr 6, 2020, 1:21 PM
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Then I don't see the harm. If a patient and doctor agree that taking something might help, then what's the problem?
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It's another thing where there's a wedge trying
Apr 6, 2020, 1:22 PM
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to be inserted, when there doesn't have to be. The President's statements and Dr. Fauci's statements about drugs aren't necessarily contradictory, and don't have to be treated as such. They can both be right.
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They are just trying to sow divisions again***
Apr 6, 2020, 1:27 PM
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Re: They are just trying to sow divisions again***
Apr 6, 2020, 1:30 PM
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must be trying to kill off some old white Rs before the election
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Whoever "they" is, we have the power to ignore "them".
Apr 6, 2020, 1:41 PM
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We have the responsibility to listen to what our leaders are saying and think about it. We should not rely on others, potentially with agendas, to tell us what to think.
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When you get hospitalized for Covid-19, make sure you
Apr 6, 2020, 1:27 PM
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request that they only administer proven drugs for the virus that has only been around for 4-5 months...
#### off...
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Yeah I think I'd be asking for a witch doctor to cut up a
Apr 6, 2020, 1:42 PM
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chicken bone or something if I thought it would work.
I dunno what the eff is wrong with people.
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Re: Hey bro, I just mixed up a concoction. Wanna try it out?***
Apr 6, 2020, 1:45 PM
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not the same, this one has been around 50 years plus
try again
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the point is that it's dubious that is does anything for
Apr 6, 2020, 1:48 PM
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covid-19 dingus.
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All-In [26968]
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So?***
Apr 6, 2020, 1:49 PM
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there are also side effects (like death).***
Apr 6, 2020, 2:26 PM
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Re: there are also side effects (like death).***
Apr 6, 2020, 2:31 PM
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wouldnt you gamble on a 50 year old drug?
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if I'm at the point where 'hope' was my last resort, sure.***
Apr 6, 2020, 2:42 PM
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If the doctor and patient agree there is acceptable risk
Apr 6, 2020, 2:44 PM
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then what is the problem? If it is known to be dangerous, then the government would make it illegal. On the contrary, the government has explicitly allowed its use.
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They know the drug is safe for treating other diseases
Apr 6, 2020, 2:57 PM
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not covid-19. I think it probably is safe and may even be a legit treatment for Covid-19, but the President saying it, instead of his medical experts, is improper. Trump isn't great with messaging and that may have played a part in why a man thought he could take his fish bowl cleaner (a form of chloroquine) because the messaging (that should be common sense, but alas...) has been muddled and confused.
Fauci reportedly got into a heated fight with Navarro over this very issue on Saturday.
https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-hydroxychloroquine-white-house-01306286-0bbc-4042-9bfe-890413c6220d.html
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All-In [26968]
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As long as the President isn't saying it's a proven cure
Apr 6, 2020, 3:06 PM
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Then I don't see the problem. If he's just promoting the promise, then I'd say that's a good thing. We need some positivity.
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Legend [18023]
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Let the medical experts promote the promise then.
Apr 6, 2020, 3:25 PM
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What if we come to find out at best the treatment doesn't work and at worst it has unknown serious side effects for treating covid-19?
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All-In [26968]
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Then the President will stop promoting it.***
Apr 6, 2020, 3:30 PM
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will he?***
Apr 6, 2020, 3:35 PM
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All-In [26968]
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I believe so, yes. Why wouldn't he?
Apr 6, 2020, 3:38 PM
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Do you think he wants people to die or something?
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No, but I also know he won't take responsibility for it.
Apr 6, 2020, 4:09 PM
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He said covid-19 wasn't as dangerous as the flu and that this isn't going to be a pandemic, only to say later he never said that. He has a history of either not taking responsibility, downplaying, or lying about what he said/did that has since been proven wrong.
He's predictable.
Saying that, I think it's low odds that there will be negative consequences to using hydroxychloroquine so he's probably fine playing the odds on this.
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Re: You a doctor? Other countries seeing large improvements
Apr 6, 2020, 1:49 PM
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That's great, the whole point is we need conclusive evidence. I really don't understand what's so hard about that.
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Of course we need conclusive evidence.
Apr 6, 2020, 1:51 PM
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There are brilliant people working on this. Again I say, what's the problem?
"This drug could help" and "There is no proof the drug helps" are not contradictory statements. Both can be true, at the same time.
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The worse side effect so far of Hydroxycholorquine is that
Apr 6, 2020, 2:31 PM
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it's being used up and is becoming less available for folks with SLE, etc. But its a drug that has been administered for years without much problem, so I'm not sure the harm in trying it out.
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Yes, that sounds like the conversations doctors are
Apr 6, 2020, 1:48 PM
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probably having with patients. Sir, this drug is not being administered in back alleys by guys in trenchcoats. Doctors with many years of experience are discussing it with their patients as an option, and many are agreeing that its potential benefits outweigh the risks.
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Re: Yes, that sounds like the conversations doctors are
Apr 6, 2020, 2:35 PM
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You can spin it all you want, but it’s stupid and dangerous for the President of the US to be promoting drugs to the general public- especially the idiots that voted for him- when their safety and effectiveness are not confirmed. Come on, wake up.
Stop defending the indefensible, you sound as stupid as our President.
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If a doctor and patient agree that it is not dangerous
Apr 6, 2020, 2:43 PM
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for that individual, or at least that the danger is an acceptable risk, why is it it a problem?
Nobody is taking the drug because the President likes it. And if they are (they aren't), that's not his fault, anyway.
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The drugs are administered according to...
Apr 6, 2020, 3:09 PM
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underlying medical conditions. A patient with heart arrhythmia may get a very small dose, or none but only if they are hospitalized for observation for the heart condition.
DO NOT TAKE FISH TANK CLEANER!
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