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Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He
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Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 5:41 PM

launched and made contact with the top of his helmet. How did they missed that?

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RBs are not defenseless players.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:42 PM



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That one sure was.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:43 PM



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Lucky Johnson


Defenseless or not you can't launch and go helmet to helmet.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:45 PM [ in reply to RBs are not defenseless players.*** ]



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he launched for the chest. it was a text book tackle.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:49 PM



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I don't care what he was aiming for.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:53 PM



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Re: Defenseless or not you can't launch and go helmet to helmet.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:50 PM [ in reply to Defenseless or not you can't launch and go helmet to helmet.*** ]

Well, you must be the only one that caught it. It's on sports talk shows, ESPN, Yahoo, etc. I haven't even seen another Clemson fan question it.

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Lucky Johnson


When you guys...


Jan 2, 2013, 6:02 PM

roll into the nineties technology you'll have slomo on your TV and can see that he made contact with the ball which wasn't under the kid's facemask. Clowney hit the chest pads first. It knocked the kid's upperbody backward and clowney's momentum pushed his face mask upward which ended in the top of clowney's helmet making violent contact with the kid's facemask.

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Re: RBs are not defenseless players.******


Jan 2, 2013, 8:37 PM [ in reply to RBs are not defenseless players.*** ]



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Re: RBs are not defenseless players.***


Jan 3, 2013, 9:37 AM [ in reply to RBs are not defenseless players.*** ]

its a blow to the head!! Clowney hit him in the face mask so hard that his helmet flew back about TEN YARDS!!

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Maybe, but I absolutely


Jan 2, 2013, 5:43 PM

hate that rule. It's FOOTBALL!!!! And Clowney ate that dude.

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Lucky Johnson


It was a form tackle, exactly how I was coached to do it.


Jan 2, 2013, 5:46 PM

And as others have said, rbs are not defensless, but perhaps they should be, because that kid could do nothing about it. I hope clowney challenges the sophomore rule.

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Yeah, SUCCESSFULLY challenges it.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:47 PM



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Lucky Johnson


That was an amazing hit period!


Jan 2, 2013, 5:47 PM

That dude was trying to gain yardage. Clowney's job was to stop him and the the ball back. He achieved both. Not to mention that the refs blew that call big time before that.

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Who cares ? It was the coots !! *****


Jan 2, 2013, 5:51 PM



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Amen! This is Clemson board. We have plenty to celebrate.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:54 PM



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Re: Who cares ?


Jan 2, 2013, 5:55 PM [ in reply to Who cares ? It was the coots !! ***** ]

I am for all players to be safe...but if we were to go to instant replay to check out hits, etc...the game would never end. Like him or not...that was something else to come right after that first down call. A movie director could not have done any better.

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The play reminded me of this scene.


Jan 2, 2013, 6:50 PM

Get me the ball

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Re: Who cares ?


Jan 2, 2013, 6:55 PM [ in reply to Re: Who cares ? ]

Again I say who cares it's the d@mn coots !! Which you seemingly are one !!

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You understand that it is humanly impossible to always avoid


Jan 2, 2013, 5:56 PM

helmet to helmet contact as a defender right? The rule is primarily for WR's and QB's where is there is a chance to avoid it. A bang-bang play like that should never be called.

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But they have called a lot of lesser hits than that.***


Jan 2, 2013, 5:58 PM



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Yes I agree, but they are all horrible calls.***


Jan 2, 2013, 6:00 PM



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I agree, but if you are going to call it be consistent.***


Jan 2, 2013, 6:01 PM



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Re: You understand that it is humanly impossible to always avoid


Jan 2, 2013, 6:39 PM [ in reply to You understand that it is humanly impossible to always avoid ]

I agree. the perception a D guy can always hit a player exactly where he wants is wrong. what if you go for the numbers and the last second the guy ducks down

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Difficult for me ...


Jan 2, 2013, 5:57 PM

to find fault with Clowney. He is among the best that this old Tiger has seen in years. Just sorry he doesn't wear orange on Saturdays.

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If you were male you'd know...


Jan 2, 2013, 5:58 PM

leading with the face mask to the ball carrier's chest is not only legal it lethal.

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His facemask was pointed at the ground.***


Jan 2, 2013, 6:00 PM



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Not on contact.


Jan 2, 2013, 6:04 PM

Watch it in slow motion instead of e motion.

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I think lady-breasts would make it more painful.***


Jan 2, 2013, 6:01 PM [ in reply to If you were male you'd know... ]



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So that's why football player don't get implants.***


Jan 2, 2013, 6:05 PM



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Yes it was helmet to helmet and if that would have been in


Jan 2, 2013, 6:08 PM

the NFL it would have cost $100,000! Should have been 15 yds and a 1st down! But it was awesome!

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Re: Yes it was helmet to helmet and if that would have been in


Jan 2, 2013, 6:22 PM

Holy Crap - anyone that thinks that was a legal hit is blind or stupid! NFL players get fined and suspended for hits like that. Not that the crappy refs would have gotten the call right. They blew the call on the first down gift, made up for it on the touchdown, and failed to make a call on the illegal hit. ESPN won't say anything negative about their pick for the 2013 Heisman Trophy!!

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 6:39 PM

It was legal and text book .

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looked clean to me...


Jan 2, 2013, 6:41 PM

had he been a tiger doing that hit.he would be receiving praise.i love good football and great hits.much props to him for that great hit.

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Same here.


Jan 2, 2013, 6:49 PM

Not that it matters what we think. The zebras provided their opinion by keeping the yellow rags off the ground.

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 6:47 PM

Hit was totally legal. He lead with his chest and wrapped the guy up. It just looked way worse because it's a 6'6 260 lb defensive lineman running full speed at a 5'10" 200 lb running back. He had a full head of steam and his job was to stop the ball carrier and get the ball back and did both of them.

Clowney didn't launch HIMSELF at the player, he made the running back launch backward from the force of the tackle. Totally legal, if there was a flag on that play we should just go to watching flag football. I just feel bad for the dude that got nailed, he will have to watch that for the rest of his college career and well into Clowney's NFL career when they do those "flashbacks."

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He'll have plenty of flashbacks of his own for a while..***


Jan 2, 2013, 6:58 PM



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Re: He'll have plenty of flashbacks of his own for a while..***


Jan 2, 2013, 7:00 PM

Does anyone know if he left the game after that hit? I wasn't watching live but I can only assume he didn't just hop up and go back to the huddle after getting blown up.

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He did hop up, but as the defense was coming on he didn't


Jan 2, 2013, 7:07 PM

jump back in the huddle for at least 2 plays.

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Re: He did hop up, but as the defense was coming on he didn't


Jan 2, 2013, 8:36 PM

Oh yeah, forgot about the fumble.

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Best post and analysis i have read here in


Jan 2, 2013, 8:02 PM [ in reply to Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He ]

In a long time. you get an A+!!

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 8:43 PM [ in reply to Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He ]

it was like when a wr gets hit while in the air, it looks worse than it is (and feels). that rb's feet weren't planted, so he could go with the hit, looks worse than it actually was.

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l0l!!84!!***


Jan 2, 2013, 6:48 PM



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If she's a hollerer, she'll be a screamer.
If she's a screamer, she'll get you arrested.


Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 7:21 PM

The top of Clowney's helmet hit the face mask, popping the RB's head back so hard his helmet was launched into the end zone.

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 7:24 PM

I have a still shot that says otherwise..It was a perfect hit....

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 7:25 PM

What did everyone think of Clowney's "pose" with his arms folded after the hit. ??

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Dunno but a FSU player got a 15 yd penalty for the same


Jan 2, 2013, 8:58 PM

thing in their game. Also when the 1st down was being measured, OBS and his team was crowding the refs. Jimbo got a 15 yarder for alot less.

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 7:25 PM

it sure was!!

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 8:49 PM

Why do you care?

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 2, 2013, 8:56 PM

Why aren't you complaining this much about the bogus
measurement? 9 feet 10" is not a first down.

Get a life.

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Jan 3, 2013, 7:46 AM

> Why aren't you complaining this much about the bogus
> measurement? 9 feet 10" is not a first down.
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> Get a life.

Well of course it isn't, that would barely be more than than 3 yards. Go home.

OP is also off their rocker.

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 3, 2013, 6:23 AM

If Clowney had impacted the RB in the chest, the RB's head would have been thrown forward from inertia. His head snapped backward from the impact to the face mask, and his helmet flew in the same direction.

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Clemson fan or not


Jan 3, 2013, 7:53 AM

That was the best defensive play I have seen in 10 years or quite possibly ever considering the circumstances. I have watched that play over and over and it was a completely legal hit as there was no targeting. His helmet level stayed at the exact same level on his whole stride and it was a complete text book tackle. To call it anything else is silly. If Clowney played on our team or even for Wake Forest I still call that one of the best plays I have ever seen.

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Nope.***


Jan 3, 2013, 7:57 AM



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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 3, 2013, 8:35 AM

I finally went and looked up a coot game thanks to all this hype here and eSECpn.
Good, perfectly legal hit. Not the play of the year, but Clowney's earning his scholly, as it went a ways toward the coot struggles against an 8-5 team who almost lost to a weak Air Force squad on their own turf.
After watching the whole crapfest, I don't know why none of them laud Ace Saunders or Sanders or whatever. Coots wouldn't even have been in a game if not for him.

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Definitely Illegal...he was told to go hurt someone, not to


Jan 3, 2013, 8:59 AM

go make a play...Cony Island Freak Show...turns my stomach

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Re: Just watched the replay and Clowney's hit WAS illegal. He


Jan 3, 2013, 9:33 AM

Watch it again, if you can stomach it. He didn't do anything wrong. I just sat through the whole pooty game as the sun came up today.
The fact that Clowney's a coot is stomach turning, but that's about it. He did what he's supposed to do, and did it well.
Legal play, not spectacular, but perhaps a game changer against a weak team. Again, there wouldn't be any game at all if it weren't for the Ace kid. He was on fire, so of course they ignore him.
Don't be like a yardbird fan and make up straw-grasping bull. We're Tigers, and call things how they are.

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