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YOUR BALANCE
As a reminder, if you look at the rankings of
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As a reminder, if you look at the rankings of


Jan 27, 2021, 2:28 PM

schools in the country, Louisville is ranked 176th. Clemson is ranked 74th. In comparison, UofSuCk is ranked 118th, which is way better than Louisville. Imagine going to a "college" that is ranked 68 spots behind the coots.

There's just no way those mouth breathers can compete with our guys on the court tonight, they can't even tie their own shoes.


Message was edited by: GWPTiger®


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Re: As a reminder, if you look at the rankings of


Jan 27, 2021, 2:39 PM

GWPTiger® said:

public schools in the country, Louisville is ranked 176th. Clemson is ranked 74th. In comparison, UofSuCk is ranked 118th, which is way better than Louisville. Imagine going to a "college" that is ranked 68 spots behind the coots.

There's just no way those mouth breathers can compete with our guys on the court tonight, they can't even tie their own shoes.



Good stuff, GWPT, and I agree. As an aside, UGA is 15th:
https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-universities/top-public

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Looking at your beautiful campus I can see why...


Jan 27, 2021, 2:41 PM

.

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Wow...


Jan 27, 2021, 2:41 PM [ in reply to Re: As a reminder, if you look at the rankings of ]

Your football rankings and academics are nearly identical.

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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: Wow...


Jan 27, 2021, 2:57 PM


Your football rankings and academics are nearly identical.



Not many places top 15 in both.

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Jack of all trades...


Jan 27, 2021, 2:58 PM

master of none.




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"I've played multiple sports and would bet any amount that I'm still more athletic than you at this present time...."


Re: Jack of all trades...


Jan 27, 2021, 3:13 PM

Well, if head to head means anything, we're pretty much your master!

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ok


Jan 27, 2021, 3:16 PM



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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


Re: ok


Jan 27, 2021, 3:27 PM

And that changes our mastery of Clemson how???

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I doubt the history books will care about wins and losses vs


Jan 27, 2021, 4:01 PM

a mid level SEC team.

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Why do dogs always race to the door when the doorbell rings? It's almost never for them.


I’d rather have 3 NC’s in the modern era than a head2head


Jan 27, 2021, 4:04 PM [ in reply to Re: ok ]

winning record against a team I don’t even play every year. You can bet that Bama wasn’t thinking about their overall record against us when we beat them 44-16 in the NC game. That just shows the difference between a championship program and the fan of a program that is always on the outside looking in.

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I’ll add that to the list...


Jan 27, 2021, 3:27 PM [ in reply to Re: Jack of all trades... ]

Recruiting Championships: <img border=">
Academic Championships: <img border=">
Head to Head Championships: <img border=">
National Championships: <img border=">

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Re: As a reminder, if you look at the rankings of


Jan 27, 2021, 2:57 PM [ in reply to Re: As a reminder, if you look at the rankings of ]

Clemson is actually ranked number 29 on the same list.

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It's like my my old Aunt Edith used to say...


Jan 27, 2021, 2:42 PM

If brains were leather, they wouldn't have enough to saddle a Junebug

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You are referencing a ranking of all schools, not public


Jan 27, 2021, 2:57 PM

schools.

HTH.

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You're correct Judge! I have edited to reflect that***


Jan 27, 2021, 2:59 PM



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P.S. As a side note, why have we dropped so far


Jan 27, 2021, 3:02 PM

in the rankings these last few years? We were top 20 in public schools/top 60 overall, now we are barely in the top 30/70s.

I know it's not based on the quality of students, because Clemson continues to be more competitive based on the number and caliber of students.

I'm guessing it's something else...

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I think we were dropped a couple spots because


Jan 27, 2021, 3:05 PM

we no longer have a President that cheats to bump up our rankings. Just a thought...

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^^^this is the correct answer***


Jan 27, 2021, 3:22 PM



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People still bashing Max Lennon.


Jan 27, 2021, 3:30 PM

SMH

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We didn't cheat to improve rankings.


Jan 27, 2021, 3:59 PM [ in reply to I think we were dropped a couple spots because ]

But I will freely admit that decisions were made with an awareness of how they might impact the rankings.

I don't see a problem with this, provided that it was done ethically and without compromising the educational experience for students.

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"Cheating" may have been hyperbole, but the actions taken


Jan 27, 2021, 4:14 PM

or at least the actions that were alleged to have been taken were borderline unethical, primarily manipulating the financial reporting.

And how do you define "compromising the educational experience for students?" Forcing good students to go elsewhere for their education because the school raised their admission standards for full time students for the sole reason of getting a better ranking seems to have compromised the educational experience for students.

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Yes, alleged is the key word in your post.


Jan 27, 2021, 4:26 PM

I don't buy those accusations.

Clemson didn't artificially raise admission standards. Clemson simply chose the best students from the pool of applicants who applied. Since the quality of Clemson's applicant pool rose, so did the academic requirements for getting accepted into Clemson.

I think that's exactly how it should be. Clemson's job is to educate students, with preference for those from South Carolina. Clemson's job isn't to accept every student who wants to be at Clemson simply because they really want to go to Clemson, or because their grand-pappy went to Clemson. With many thousands of applications, the process is - and should be - numbers-driven, with the goal of accepting the best and brightest.

The number of students who applied and were accepted, as well as the grades and SAT scores of those who applied and were accepted, are tracked in detail by every school, including Clemson. To suggest that Clemson manipulated those numbers on purpose, just to improve the US News & World Report Ranking, is a serious accusation. And it's one I have a hard time believing.

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We can debate semantics all day (I have time)


Jan 27, 2021, 4:34 PM

but there are certain things that are not mere allegations. Such as manipulating the financial reporting to make it look better for rankings and for no other reason. Also, I'm going from memory, but didn't Clemson also give graduates money for them to donate back to the school so they could raise the percentage of alumni donations?

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