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Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:33 PM
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Works in every other sports league/ affiliate. Remember when the 9 and 7 giants beat the 16-0 patriots? This is like telling the blue jays, we know you won the east but the Yankees looked better so you are out. Conference champs and 3 at large. Truly lets the championship be won on the field!!
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:35 PM
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Because there are 5 teams for 4 spots
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:36 PM
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I'm say good move to 8 teams and have automatic conference champ bids
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:37 PM
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Also... the Giants were a WC... FYI
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:37 PM
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Because the Big 12 has fewer teams and no conference championship game, so a much easier path to the playoffs.
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:39 PM
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Conference champ game for big 12 starting next yeAr
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Champion games are how crappy teams would occasionally get in
Nov 29, 2016, 9:04 PM
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An 8-4 team can beat an 11-1 team in a 1 game situation. Over the course of the season the cream rises. Say what you will about the Big XIIs lack of a title game but with their round robin format you will never get a random turd champion.
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:38 PM
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Because total W-L matters for national playoff, but conference record is used to determine who plays for conf.
OSU and PSU are tied in B1G with identical 1-loss records and PSU hold tiebreaker.
Nationally, the Pitt loss matters so OSU is ahead at 11-1 vs 10-2.
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:38 PM
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Then people would be bitching about who should be number eight
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:39 PM
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Absolutely!
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^this***
Nov 29, 2016, 8:49 PM
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Occasionally turd 3 and 4 loss teams win conferences
Nov 29, 2016, 8:38 PM
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and I have absolutely no desire to see them in the playoff.
If you put them in you better have a couple wild card spots to put the more deserving teams in as well.
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:39 PM
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would you watch FL play COL and VT play PSU in the semis? I know it's an exaggeration, but the overall resume has to count for something
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:41 PM
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Would you watch 7-9 Seattle (happened a few years ago). Play an nfl playoff game?
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the NFL doesn't have a 4 team playoff, they have 12 team..
Nov 29, 2016, 8:42 PM
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Playoff. Terrible comparison
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Re: the NFL doesn't have a 4 team playoff, they have 12 team..
Nov 29, 2016, 8:45 PM
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How terrible comparison when ifyou read what I said move to an 8 team playoff so all conferences have reps. Just like the nfl has all divisions reps irregardless of division winner record
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Re: the NFL doesn't have a 4 team playoff, they have 12 team..
Nov 30, 2016, 5:46 PM
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But there are 10 Playoff eligible conferences... 8 still leaves 2 out
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 29, 2016, 8:43 PM
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I think this is being chirped by a bunch of people with OCD who see "perfect order" with this plan. We can shoot holes in this plan rather quickly. They will not be happy with the results when a 7-4 Iowa or Georgia Tech wins their conference and shows up ill equipped to perform on the big stage. Throw in a Central Michigan or Houston because their record was so good playing inferior competition. Chaos will never leave these OCDers alone.
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 30, 2016, 6:00 PM
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A 7-4 P5 champion would be the 8 Seed and get smoked in the first round by the top seed preferably on the road in a hostile environment. I don't really see this is as an issue. The less influence a random group of people have in selecting the national champion off some vague eye test the better in my eyes, but I guess that's just me.
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 30, 2016, 6:05 PM
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Assuming Clemson\Washington\AL win
1. AL - SEC Champ
2. Clemson - ACC CHamp
3. Washington - PAC12 Champ
4. Wisc\Penn State - Big10 Champ
5. OU\OSU - Big 12 Champ
6. tOSU - At Large
7. Michigan - At Large
8. Western Michigan - Best G5
Would anyone really be all that upset with line up?
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 30, 2016, 6:26 PM
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What about the other 4 conference champs that are left out?
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Re: Why not automatic for conference champs?
Nov 30, 2016, 6:40 PM
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^^^I think Bama fans would be upset with that lineup since Western Michigan would clobber them.
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Orange Blooded [2351]
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In those other leagues you mention
Nov 30, 2016, 6:35 PM
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Teams are ranked on ALL W-L and they are considered equal. In CFB conferences only take conference W-L.
So we have a 10-2 Michigan and 10-2 PSU and Michigan beat PSU down.
But B1G sees a 8-1 PSU and a 7-2 Michigan because it ignores 1/4 of both teams games. Games in which Michigan was 3-0 and PSU lost to Pitt.
This doesn't happen in NFL, NBA, MLB, etc.
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