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The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long)
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The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long)


Jan 28, 2016, 9:08 AM

Mizzou @ West Virginia
Arkansas @ TCU

The end.

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It's like that every year.***


Jan 28, 2016, 9:08 AM



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we'll have Auburn at Clemson next year.***


Jan 28, 2016, 9:10 AM



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(not counting yearly rivalry games)***


Jan 28, 2016, 9:09 AM



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or Neutral Site games.***


Jan 28, 2016, 9:18 AM



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Re: The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long)


Jan 28, 2016, 9:16 AM

Mizzou might have a rough time at WV without Matty snort the chalk Mauk. They are SEC now, so the 5 strike rule might be in play.

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Re: The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long)


Jan 28, 2016, 9:18 AM

Just curious how many does the ACC have?

I assume it will be more but just curious.

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Re: The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long)


Jan 28, 2016, 9:21 AM

I got bored and started looking at schedules.

Vanderbilt plays @ GT

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Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 9:24 AM [ in reply to Re: The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long) ]

Clemson @ Aub
UVA @ Oregon
Duke @ NW
Miami @ ND
Pitt @ OKST

Also, Louisville @ Hou.. I know not power 5 but top 10 type team.

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Neutral site:


Jan 28, 2016, 9:26 AM

FSU/Ole Miss in Orlando
UNC/UGA in Atlanta
VT/UT in Bristol Motor Speedway
Cuse/ND in Metlife Stadium

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 9:29 AM [ in reply to Here: ]

unc @ Illinois
Wake @ Indiana

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good catch.. that was just what I could think of off the top


Jan 28, 2016, 9:30 AM

of my head. Thanks

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The ACC tends to schedule teams they will be the underdog


Jan 28, 2016, 10:10 AM [ in reply to Here: ]

to. They are not lining up patsies. They will not be favored in one of those games listed on the road.

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Re: The ACC tends to schedule teams they will be the underdog


Jan 28, 2016, 10:11 AM

Except for us. But we will not be an overwhelming favorite.

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Re: The ACC tends to schedule teams they will be the underdog


Jan 28, 2016, 11:00 AM

I would not call UNC vs UGA @ Atlanta a neutral site.

Interesting that UGA, LSU, Auburn play no tough out of conference games away. Cowards.

Bama vs USC @ Jerry World is a neutral site, but I'll be surprised if it's not 2/3 or more Bama in the stands.

On a personal note. I don't care for watching games @ Jerry World. That giant screen is amazing, but you wind up watching most of the game looking at the screen. I always leave feeling like I missed the game. Give me Death Valley all day long, far superior atmosphere to watch a ball game.

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Re: The ACC tends to schedule teams they will be the underdog


Jan 28, 2016, 5:49 PM [ in reply to Re: The ACC tends to schedule teams they will be the underdog ]

We were a touchdown favorite last I checked for early lines.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 1:33 PM [ in reply to Here: ]

Notre Dame doesn't count.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 4:07 PM

Why doesn't ND count?

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 4:52 PM

Because they're a member of the ACC and are mandated games.

Would be like Alabama bragging about playing at LSU.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:00 PM

Where did Notre Dame finish in the ACC last year? And which division are they in?

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Re: Here:


Nov 4, 2019, 6:34 PM

I'm not going to argue if you wish to be irrational.

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:07 PM

Of course you're not going to argue because you have no reply. There is not even an argument for it. Provide a link showing that Notre Dame joined the ACC in football

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:13 PM

Yes your relationship is unique but these are still mandated games by the conference.

Being unique doesn't change the fact your ADs are not scheduling these games.

Says a lot about your argument that you're having to intentionally be disingenuous.

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:15 PM

It's not a made decision by Clemson's or sc's ad to play the palmetto bowl every year. Does that mean we are in the same conference?

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:17 PM

1) it is a choice between our ADs

2) is USC a member of the ACC or is Clemson a member of the SEC?

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:20 PM

Ha-ha. Wow. It is absolutely not a choice by our ad's. I was making a point anyways. Just because the games are mandated does not mean that ND is in the acc. Sorry you can't understand something so simple. Every team ND plays is a non conference game for the other team.

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Jan 28, 2016, 9:03 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

> 1) it is a choice between our ADs
>
> 2) is USC a member of the ACC or is Clemson a member
> of the SEC?

No. USC is in the PAC-12. So kudos to Bama for scheduling them.

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:19 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

It says a lot about your argument when you can't provide one link to back it up. You are the only one being disingenuous. It is a statement of fact to say that Notre Dame is not a member of the ACC in football and that all games against Notre Dame are considered out of conference games. The fact that you're even arguing otherwise shows how little you know about college football. You are literally the only person I've ever heard try to argue that Notre Dame is a member of the ACC in football.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:24 PM

It must be killing you inside to know I'm right and you just can't admit it.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:30 PM

I really hope you don't have a degree from South Carolina. Why would it be killing me that random internet guy is an idiot? I didn't see your link in your post either.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:34 PM

The fact is I know you're trolling at this point because you have provided no substance to your argument. But I honestly believe that you do believe some of the crap you spew on here

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:39 PM

What do I need to provide? We both know:

1) ND is a member of the ACC
2) ND is mandated to play 5 acc teams a year
3) ND is eligible for ACC football bowl slots.

There is nothing I need to provide. I can't make you be rational.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:42 PM

Oh wow that's all it takes to prove a point well here is mine:
1 You are an idiot
2 The University of south Carolina is a member of SCHISA
3 Clemson is the best football team in the world
I typed it out, it must be true

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Which division are they in?***


Jan 28, 2016, 5:45 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]



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where did they finish?***


Jan 28, 2016, 5:45 PM



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Re: where did they finish?***


Jan 28, 2016, 5:55 PM

Oh don't bother you won't get an answer out of him. I have not one time seen him have any kind of discussion on here where he was able to provide documentary evidence.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:49 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NCAA_Division_I_FBS_independent_schools

I'm assuming facts won't change the fact that you are an idiot, but here ya go.

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Jan 28, 2016, 6:10 PM

You guys are the ones ignoring facts.

Like I said. It tells a lot about the lack of substance of your original argument.

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which division are they in? If they are a member, they will


Jan 28, 2016, 6:16 PM

be in a division no?

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 6:18 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

I'll ask the question one more time, if you refuse to answer as before we will take it as you accept that you are a loser and have lost the argument. In what football division does Notre Dame play in the ACC?

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Jan 28, 2016, 6:57 PM

They aren't in a division.

HTH

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Jan 28, 2016, 7:22 PM

Therefore they are an out of conference opponent hth

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Math checks out***


Jan 28, 2016, 8:16 PM



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So they are in our conference but belong to no division?***


Jan 28, 2016, 8:15 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]



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Re: So they are in our conference but belong to no division?***


Jan 28, 2016, 8:54 PM

Obviously you guys have a weird relationship with ND.

It's unique.

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Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC


Jan 28, 2016, 8:59 PM

opponent? Why did they play 3 less conference games than everybody else in the ACC? Unique relationship? Sure....Conference Member in Football? Nope

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Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC


Jan 28, 2016, 9:05 PM

Honestly you can have the last word. I really don't care. We both know the truth and I can't make you admit it.

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Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC


Jan 28, 2016, 9:10 PM

Just provide one link showing that Notre Dame is a conference member in football and you will have an argument. Seriously one link from billions of websites. It's not that hard. You are a typical SCar fan, no interest in factual evidence.

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Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC


Jan 28, 2016, 9:31 PM

You can move the goalposts all you want. It doesn't change the original argument.

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the original argument was false***


Jan 28, 2016, 10:27 PM



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this is a riveting thread***


Jan 28, 2016, 10:33 PM [ in reply to Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC ]



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Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC


Jan 28, 2016, 10:41 PM [ in reply to Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC ]

It's you against the world, but you keep fighting three good fight kid.

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Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC


Jan 29, 2016, 4:56 AM

I think it is pretty obvious Norte dame chose to remain independent in football for $$$$ reasons and they are free to keep all their deals but still join the ACC in other sports.

Everyone remembers how great the deal was for ND and how silly the ACC looked for allowing it.

The only thing that made it somewhat rational including giving up a bowl slot to ND was the requirement to play 5 ACC teams per year.

I think that is the guys argument in not pounding chests over how tough the ACC chose to schedule out of conference. Those ND games are similar to CU games against Miami, VT, UNC games in that you must play them every few years. Same with ND

Bama USC - UNC UGA - Clemson - AU are not mandatory games and are chosen by ADs

I guess he is saying they don't count as voluntary tough schedule games because they are mandated by the ACC

Interesting that Clemson could have been a 2 pt conversion and FG from missing the national champ game had ND won. Lots of mad fans had that mandatory game been a loss thus keeping Clemson out of playoffs.

Granted the win helped strength of schedule and it was beneficial in the end.


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Oh he knows the truth....He just doesn't want to admit it***


Jan 28, 2016, 10:26 PM [ in reply to Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC ]



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Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC


Jan 28, 2016, 9:16 PM [ in reply to Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC ]

http://espn.go.com/blog/acc/post/_/id/83599/notre-dame-is-right-where-it-belongs-and-acc-coaches-are-fine-to-dislike-it

This one link completely destroys any argument you can make. Pay attention to the first bullet point especially

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but but but....that's not gonna be his "original" argument***


Jan 28, 2016, 10:29 PM



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No...We both know the truth and I can't get YOU


Jan 28, 2016, 10:25 PM [ in reply to Re: Why did the Power Rankings insist on calling them an OOC ]

to admit it...If they were truly a member of the ACC in football you would be able to provide a link proving it

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Do we divide any of our Football Money with them ? Do they


Jan 28, 2016, 9:00 PM [ in reply to Re: So they are in our conference but belong to no division?*** ]

reciprocate? If not, we're not in the same conference.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 6:28 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

Why is this ###### allowed to post on this site?

It's obvious he's just being a retarded troll.

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 6:31 PM

Honestly his IQ is probably in the mid 80s. He's not quite special ed, so it's fun to slap him around a little.

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If they anre in the ACC, why do they only play 5 games when


Jan 28, 2016, 8:17 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

the rest of the ACC has to play 8 Conference games? Is it because they aren't REALLY in the ACC?

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Jan 29, 2016, 10:48 AM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

You are right but not for these reasons. Notre Dame is not a member of a Power 5 conference in football. They are independent in football.

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Jan 29, 2016, 11:49 AM

I found the other argument more amusing.

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Jan 29, 2016, 12:29 PM

Just don't let facts or rationale get in the way.

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Jan 29, 2016, 12:34 PM

Oh by the way, The Citadel is not in a Power 5 Conference either. Nor is Mercer (upcoming Alabama oppoment). Oh wait...not road games.

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then why didn't you reply THERE chickensh1t?***


Jan 29, 2016, 12:54 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]



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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

How long ago do you think you would have dropped Clemson from your schedule if it wasn't mandated?

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:29 PM

Ha-ha, exactly.

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You, of all people, calling someone else intentionally


Jan 28, 2016, 5:35 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

disingenuous? Takes the Cake

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:11 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/8369070/notre-dame-sports-football-hockey-acc

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Re: Here:


Jan 28, 2016, 5:11 PM

Do I need to explain to you what the word except means?

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:25 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

Norte dame does not count but also not in the ACC. They are still technically an independent in football. That's why we didn't get credit for an acc W when we beat them this past year

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:10 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

They're not a member of the ACC in football genius.

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Jan 28, 2016, 5:12 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

Are you really that dumb or is it just an act?

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1st of all, Bama DOES brag about playing LSU, second, ND is


Jan 28, 2016, 5:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

NOT a memember of the ACC in Football

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You're wrong. #1) They are absolutely NOT a member of the


Jan 28, 2016, 6:06 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

ACC in football.

#2) The point, I am guessing, is that your pansy protected programs schedule creampuffs and then pound your chest about how you play each other and how tough that is because of the performances against...each other. The ACC...being unsuccessful in getting Notre Dame in the conference for football, made sure that Notre Dame played ACC teams as much as possible. It is the very point he is making...we don't shy away from tough competition.

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Jan 28, 2016, 4:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Here: ]

Because he is an idiot and doesn't know anything about college football

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Too lazy to list which ACC schools play which but here's the


Jan 28, 2016, 4:14 PM [ in reply to Re: The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long) ]

List of Power 5 teams on the road

Auburn
Indiana
Northwestern
Notre Dame 3 times
Georgia
Illinois
Oklahoma State
And Oregon

Along with several neutral site games

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Re: lol.***


Jan 28, 2016, 11:35 AM



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Re: The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long)


Jan 28, 2016, 4:04 PM

As much as I hate to do this Scar does play at Clemson next season.

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Re: The SEC on the road vs Power 5 teams ... List ... (Long)


Jan 28, 2016, 5:05 PM

It only took 23 replies before someone made mention of the most obvious one. USC vs. Clemson

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Hard to include USuC as a member of power conference.


Jan 28, 2016, 9:08 PM

But guess it's all they got

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TL;DR***


Jan 28, 2016, 5:20 PM



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Is Clemson not a power 5 team?


Jan 29, 2016, 1:14 PM

Coots play in DV next year.

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