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What is it with the state of Alabama and being a great football coach at Clemson
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What is it with the state of Alabama and being a great football coach at Clemson


Jan 9, 2015, 9:55 PM

Frank Howard- Born in Barlow Bend, Alabama
Danny Ford- Born in Gadsden, Alabama
Dabo Swinney- Born in Birmingham, Alabama
Tommy Bowden- Born in Birmingham, Alabama
These are four of the greatest football coaches in Clemson history, just thought it was a rather cool coincidence.

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Re: What is it with the state of Alabama and being a great football coach at Clemson


Jan 9, 2015, 10:06 PM

Great observation. I think they all brought that "take no prisoners"
attitude with them. JMHO.

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the top three played for Alabama too***


Jan 9, 2015, 10:07 PM



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Yep, and they all appeared to fall in love with Clemson, too***


Jan 9, 2015, 10:14 PM



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Re: the top three played for Alabama too


Jan 9, 2015, 10:21 PM [ in reply to the top three played for Alabama too*** ]

All on the offensive side of the ball
Ford was a tackle
Howard was a guard
Dabo was a wide receiver

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Wait tommy bowden?


Jan 9, 2015, 10:09 PM

one of the greatest????

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Probably be default.. his tenure was the third longest right


Jan 11, 2015, 2:15 PM

Behind Ford and Howard...

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GO TIGERS


Re: Wait tommy bowden?


Jan 11, 2015, 5:06 PM [ in reply to Wait tommy bowden? ]

> one of the greatest????

Tammy got the ball rolling. Spiller & Davis, etc. Just couldnt get over the hump.

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I live in North Alabama and all the Bama folks love Dabo


Jan 9, 2015, 10:14 PM

I'll wear a Clemson shirt and people will stop me in the store and tell me how much they appreciate him and what he's done.

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Re: I live in North Alabama and all the Bama folks love Dabo


Jan 9, 2015, 10:24 PM

That's pretty cool.

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Same here. Had a die-hard Bama fan say Clemson is his "second team" to root


Jan 9, 2015, 10:27 PM [ in reply to I live in North Alabama and all the Bama folks love Dabo ]

for because of Dabo.

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"Anybody that says Coach Brownell is the best coach to come through Clemson is going to start an argument." -JP Hall


Re: I live in North Alabama and all the Bama folks love Dabo


Jan 9, 2015, 11:09 PM [ in reply to I live in North Alabama and all the Bama folks love Dabo ]

You should eat at the Cracker Barrel in Pelham AL, I think his mom used to work there or still does - anyway - they love CLEMSON and Dabo there.

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A company I used to work for was HQ'd in Alabama, and


Jan 10, 2015, 7:36 AM [ in reply to I live in North Alabama and all the Bama folks love Dabo ]

the president of the company, a Bama grad and prominent supporter, had become acquainted with Dabo. When we hired Dabo as an assistant back in '03, this guy raved about Dabo to me, about what a great guy he was and how he couldn't understand how Bama let him get away, and he assured me that Dabo would do big things at Clemson. Looks like Dabo was in the right place at the right time for us!

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Charley Pell born Albertville, AL played for Bear Bryant too***


Jan 9, 2015, 10:27 PM



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Hootie Ingram born in ttown


Jan 9, 2015, 10:32 PM

.

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Re: Hootie Ingram born in ttown


Jan 9, 2015, 11:34 PM

Worst we ever had. not because he was from AL, just saying one loser happened to slip through the cracks.

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Re: Hootie Ingram born in ttown


Jan 9, 2015, 11:40 PM

and in true Peter Principal action, Hootie eventually became the Commissioner of the SEC....go figure

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Re: Hootie Ingram born in ttown


Jan 11, 2015, 1:20 PM

A definite case of mistaken identity. No way anyone who knew him could have thought he should have been promoted to anything after his epic fail at Clemson.

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Hootie was defensive coordinator for an Arkansas team that


Jan 11, 2015, 3:31 PM

was very close to the national championship the year before we hired him.

He was viewed as a hot up-and-coming assistant at a power program ... a lot like Brent Venables might be viewed today.

The fact that he wasn't head coach material wasn't easily recognizable until he had to produce and by then it was too late.

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Re: Hootie was defensive coordinator for an Arkansas team that


Jan 12, 2015, 5:03 PM

Way, way, way too late.

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BUT, he gave us the paw


Jan 10, 2015, 12:59 AM [ in reply to Re: Hootie Ingram born in ttown ]

Thats gotta count for something

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Re: BUT, he gave us the paw


Jan 10, 2015, 8:03 AM

No he was there when we got the pae. He had nothing to do w it

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Re: BUT, he gave us the paw


Jan 11, 2015, 1:22 PM [ in reply to BUT, he gave us the paw ]

It happened on his watch, but it certainly wasn't his idea. How do I know? Simple. It was a great idea, therefore it couldn't have been Hootie's.

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He also stopped running down "The Hill" for a season.


Jan 13, 2015, 1:28 AM [ in reply to BUT, he gave us the paw ]

Brilliant move ...

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Apparently Hootie was an excellent administrator, but


Jan 10, 2015, 7:39 AM [ in reply to Re: Hootie Ingram born in ttown ]

just not much of a coach.

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Hottie had the number one defense in the nation as DC


Jan 11, 2015, 1:31 PM

at Ark. the year before we hired him here.

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Re: Hottie had the number one defense in the nation as DC


Jan 11, 2015, 2:26 PM

He should have kept that job, then, because he didn't do squat at Clemson as a HC. At Ark he must have inherited a great system, or maybe Frank broyles made the coaching decisions. He definitely got over-promoted, because he was a terrible HC. I thought that only the majority of players thought that way, but after speaking with some of his assistant coaches at one of the Letterwinner's events, I found that even they thought he did a poor job. He was promoted beyond his abilities. Sadly it happens a lot.

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Re: Hootie Ingram born in ttown


Jan 10, 2015, 8:01 AM [ in reply to Hootie Ingram born in ttown ]

True but he was a lousy cu coach

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You said "great" and then Tommy Bowden. lol***


Jan 9, 2015, 11:10 PM



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There's something in these hills.


Tommy Bowden does rank #3 for all time wins at Clemson


Jan 9, 2015, 11:27 PM

#1 Frank Howard 165 wins
#2 Danny Ford 96 wins
#3 Tommy Bowden 72 Wins
#4 Dabo Swinney 64 wins and growing

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Re: Tommy Bowden does rank #3 for all time wins at Clemson


Jan 9, 2015, 11:33 PM

What's gonna be cool is when we play Alabama for the national championship and open up a pipeline from Alabama and start pulling some of the state's best players.

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I have very mixed feelings about that man, he did a lot for


Jan 10, 2015, 6:38 AM [ in reply to Tommy Bowden does rank #3 for all time wins at Clemson ]

Clemson and Clemson football but he sure made me mad as h*ll sometimes. I do give him credit for his achievements and that #3 ranking.

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Re: Tommy Bowden does rank #3 for all time wins at Clemson


Jan 10, 2015, 9:34 AM [ in reply to Tommy Bowden does rank #3 for all time wins at Clemson ]

Lol, Dabo will pass Tammy next year.

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Re: What is it with the state of Alabama and being a great football coach at Clemson


Jan 9, 2015, 11:32 PM

Hate to pour cold water on your analogy, but the worst coach ever to come to Clemson was Hootie, and he, too, was from AL and played at AL. Just saying that there is a bad "floater" in every punch bowl.

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Hate Hootie all you want as a coach, but


Jan 10, 2015, 9:00 AM

He branded us with "The Paw" and I'll always appreciate him for that.

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Re: Hate Hootie all you want as a coach, but


Jan 11, 2015, 1:25 PM

While I do despise Hootie and his epic fail as a coach, it has nothing to do with the idea of the Paw, which happened on Hootie's watch, but it is very, very doubtful he had anything to do with the idea.

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Re: Didn't Red Parker recruit most of the late '70s stars?


Jan 10, 2015, 9:21 AM [ in reply to Re: What is it with the state of Alabama and being a great football coach at Clemson ]

Put Clemson in position to start winning in late 70's and 80 's?

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Re: Didn't Red Parker recruit most of the late '70s stars?


Jan 11, 2015, 1:31 PM

Please try and find someone else to agree with you that Hootie was anything other than a terrible mistake for our program. If you think otherwise, you didn't know him. I haven't talked to anybody on his teams who has a dab of respect for him. There won't be anybody relieving themselves on his grave, though. None of us would stand in line for him.

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Hootie not as bad as Hatfield***


Jan 11, 2015, 4:03 PM [ in reply to Re: What is it with the state of Alabama and being a great football coach at Clemson ]



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Charley Pellet, Albertville, Al.***


Jan 10, 2015, 1:47 AM



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That's Pell !***


Jan 10, 2015, 1:48 AM



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It started with Frank Howard playing beside Bear Bryant at


Jan 10, 2015, 9:42 AM

Ala.

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You lost all points when you included Bowden.


Jan 10, 2015, 10:03 AM

Sure, he could beat the chickens, but he could lose to anyone else.

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CTB started the turn in our FB program and deserves credit


Jan 10, 2015, 11:52 AM

not just for hiring Dabo, facility upgrades, and the wins over the Peckerheads, but also for establishing a solid recruiting program that brought in top level athletes with high moral character and which has formed the foundation for our continued successes.

You don't do Clemson University any favors by criticizing Tommy Bowden.

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There are also Auburn ties.***


Jan 10, 2015, 11:12 AM



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Which coach since Walter Riggs has Auburn ties?***


Jan 11, 2015, 1:22 PM



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Re: Which coach since Walter Riggs has Auburn ties?***


Jan 11, 2015, 2:35 PM

Heisman coached at Auburn, then quit coaching football. Riggs sought Heisman and hired him to coach at Clemson.

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