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All-TigerNet [13038]
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So 1 tutor cheating for 12 students across 3 sports
Jan 31, 2019, 1:23 PM
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gets Mizzou hammered by the NCAA, but 2 decades of fake classes involving hundreds of student athletes and an entire corrupt department goes completely unpunished at UNC?
What's the incentive to cooperate with the NCAA again?
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It helps when the AD who oversaw the cheating in it's
Jan 31, 2019, 1:27 PM
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infancy one day rises to Conference Commissioner so he can run interference during the "investigation"
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Re: So 1 tutor cheating for 12 students across 3 sports
Jan 31, 2019, 1:28 PM
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They'll never disclose how much hush money got transferred ?
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Yeah, i hope it cost UNC at least 8 figures in legal fees
Jan 31, 2019, 1:30 PM
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and bribes to walk away from that scandal. Whatever the cost, I'm sure it was still worth it.
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I wondered who else would see the hypocricy in this
Jan 31, 2019, 1:30 PM
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penalty compared to UNC ruling! What a load of garbage! Guess Missouri should have lawyered up like the cheating Tar Heels!
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Re: I wondered who else would see the hypocricy in this
Jan 31, 2019, 1:32 PM
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Apparently lawyering up is the way to go ??
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"toothless organization" has been throw around more than
Jan 31, 2019, 1:35 PM
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once
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Orange Blooded [3389]
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Re: So 1 tutor cheating for 12 students across 3 sports
Jan 31, 2019, 1:39 PM
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Hate to think how massive that tutor's workload was with twelve mental midgets to service.
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Where UNC found their loophole and where Mizzou screwed
Jan 31, 2019, 1:44 PM
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up is that the fake classes at UNC were available to any student, not just athletes. At Mizzou, the tutor seemingly only provided improper benefits to athletes.
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Re: Where UNC found their loophole and where Mizzou screwed
Jan 31, 2019, 1:49 PM
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UNC has a bevy of lawyers that the NCAA cannot overcome. UNC can basically do anything they want and get away with it. That is also why SEC schools in the past have gotten away from NCAA sanctions with nothing more than a wrist slap.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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Mizzou has a law school, so I am guessing they have
Jan 31, 2019, 5:35 PM
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access to a bevy of lawyers too.
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Legend [16132]
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They also have one of the best Journalism schools in the
Jan 31, 2019, 6:43 PM
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Country, you would think they would have been able to spin out of this one way or the other...I would have openly lobbied for the Carolina treatment or it would be bean spilling time
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Re: Where UNC found their loophole and where Mizzou screwed
Jan 31, 2019, 5:49 PM
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GWPTiger is correct and sums it very well. A tutor doing the work is "Academic Fraud". That is an NCAA violation. Bogus classes (approved by the administration) and open to all is not an NCAA violation. Carolina (the real one) was charged with an "Extra Benefits" charge. Jay Bilas, an attorney on Finebaum show said NCAA thought that Carolina would cave and accept the charge. They didn't, and spent a gazillion dollars to fight it. NCAA didn't have enough lawyers to fight their weak charge.
Is it garbage that they got out of it? Absolutely.
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Re: 'apparent' hypocrisy
Jan 31, 2019, 6:18 PM
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CoI actually addressed this 'apparent hypocrisy' in their ruling. They specified as you said.
Even though at UNC, a secretary designed and administered the fraudulent (as in not up to standard) course work, the students actually performed the (fraudulent) work. No one else did it for them, voluntarily or compulsorily, which is what happened at Mizzou. Tutor says she felt compelled to do the work in the name of the athletes, Mizzou says it was all on her own.
NCAA is explaining why they feel like they still have teeth in their head.
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Re: So 1 tutor cheating for 12 students across 3 sports
Jan 31, 2019, 1:57 PM
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Missouri is the sacrificial lamb for the SECheat. That used to be USuC but now Missouri has been handed this title. As long as the NCAA hammers one program in the SECheat the rest are able to get away with anything they desire. This will not be the last time Missouri gets hammered. It will continue to happen until someone new comes into the SECheat that is not that great in sports.
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Re: So 1 tutor cheating for 12 students across 3 sports
Jan 31, 2019, 3:42 PM
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Ole Miss was the last one
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Re: So 1 tutor cheating for 12 students across 3 sports
Jan 31, 2019, 5:21 PM
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I worked as a tutor for student athletes at an sec school. I can tell you that some sec schools do take this particular violation very very seriously. Also, it gave me a new perspective on just how regimented time is for athlete's. They literally get the best of the best in terms of support for academics.
For a tutor to being willing to do this is just stupid. Why risk getting kicked out of school?
Now I'd be curious to know how much the people above the tutor knew. If they were involved then mizzo is ######.
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Re: So 1 tutor cheating for 12 students across 3 sports
Jan 31, 2019, 6:28 PM
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The biggest mistake Missouri ever made was jumping ship from the Big 12. They could compete there in all sports and live mostly under the NCAA radar.
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The difference is UNC spent over 31 million dollars
Jan 31, 2019, 2:40 PM
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On legal fees defending its self against the NCAA. UNC decided to fight and didn’t care what it cost to defend its academic integrity against the NCAA knowing all along they were guilty of the allegations. Justice in this country may be blind but it’s not dinner and it will listen to anyone with money and power and UNC Chapel Hill has lots and lots of both.
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