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What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 3:24 PM
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I know his 'eligibility is all but expired', and he was a reserve anyway, but has he been practicing with the team? An incredible commitment for an almost negligible return, but Dabo kept him on scholly for a reason. If he has been practicing all along, I'd love to see him get some action.
I'm hoping keeping him on scholly was not done just to prevent legal action.
It still concerns me because here in Augusta people don't want to talk about it, but when i pushed one of his classmates' mom to express her opinion, she believes there's no question he cheated. She said she trusts the NCAA more than she trusts Dabo. Since she is a GA fan, of course she says that. But if your friends' families don't believe in you, it would be nice if the Tiger family gave him a momentary recognition.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 3:32 PM
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Have I missed something? You come on the Clemson board to trash one of the Clemson players based on hearsay. Then you want the Clemson family to lift up said player. I talk a lot of football to people in the CSRA and no one is mentioning Zach.
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No eligibility
Dec 16, 2019, 4:29 PM
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the suspension was enforced during his last year of eligibility, causing his career to end.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 4:32 PM
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Who cares what that lady says and she probably isn't one of his friend's Mom. She is a Georgia fan who has a kid who went to the same school. You might as well go over to FGF and get their opinion.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 5:28 PM
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I ask the question, so I'M the coot?
My question, dumbbells, is what are WE doing to show we believe in him? He didn't just 'attend a school in the CSRA'. He attended Augusta Christian, and they take their mission seriously. You cannot blame them for backing an enforcement agency when their mission is to develop young people with good character, even though Common Sense says the evidence shows there was no intent to cheat on his part.
Ok, i didn't tell you how vehemently i argued with the lady, or the questions i challenged her with that demonstrated that she (and others) have no working knowledge of Ostarine or its testing and punishment. That wasn't my point on this board.
Because the NCAA enforcement is archaic, it smears everyone associated with it. We care about Galloway because he still has eligibility left and can still help the team. What about the guy who doesn't, and can't? Do you care about him, too?
You pretend you're a Tiger that supports him, then you get angry when i don't let his memory fade into oblivion?
My point was that, since Dabo (and Tiger fans) stand behind Zach, I'm hoping that the fact that he kept his scholly while working toward his Masters means that he will have an opportunity to wear and display the Paw in game play just like Galloway.
And if that's too deep for you, get off my thread. &$@) you. I'll support Zach to every person i work with at ACS, since apparently I'm the only one taking up for him.
Go Tigers.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 5:28 PM
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I ask the question, so I'M the coot?
My question, dumbbells, is what are WE doing to show we believe in him? He didn't just 'attend a school in the CSRA'. He attended Augusta Christian, and they take their mission seriously. You cannot blame them for backing an enforcement agency when their mission is to develop young people with good character, even though Common Sense says the evidence shows there was no intent to cheat on his part.
Ok, i didn't tell you how vehemently i argued with the lady, or the questions i challenged her with that demonstrated that she (and others) have no working knowledge of Ostarine or its testing and punishment. That wasn't my point on this board.
Because the NCAA enforcement is archaic, it smears everyone associated with it. We care about Galloway because he still has eligibility left and can still help the team. What about the guy who doesn't, and can't? Do you care about him, too?
You pretend you're a Tiger that supports him, then you get angry when i don't let his memory fade into oblivion?
My point was that, since Dabo (and Tiger fans) stand behind Zach, I'm hoping that the fact that he kept his scholly while working toward his Masters means that he will have an opportunity to wear and display the Paw in game play just like Galloway.
And if that's too deep for you, get off my thread. &$@) you. I'll support Zach to every person i work with at ACS, since apparently I'm the only one taking up for him.
Go Tigers.
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Re: What exactly do you want fans to do?
Dec 16, 2019, 10:23 PM
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Not get hostile because i embarrassed them by asking a question about a person (Tiger) I'm proud to have watched play but they want to imply should be persona non grata.
I missed the Senior recognition. I was on the TuneIn app that day. Thanks for mentioning it.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 7:04 PM
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I never called you a coot. I just meant her opinion is as valid as the opinion of someone on that board. Not calling you a coot at all.
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I glad you are concerned
Dec 16, 2019, 5:06 PM
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We should all be concerned. Your facts are undeniable. Bad bad things are happening. We can't just overlook them. No telling how widespread the cheating is. I trust you and UGa fans form Augusta far more than I do our players and coaches.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 6:17 PM
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Giella's a redshirt senior. If he's with the team - I dunno about that - then he would have the playoffs left as his eligibility.
I don't know if he's still active or not. He'd be buried on the depth chart in any event.
As to the other issue, I'm a partisan homer, granted, but everything I've heard both publicly and privately indicates that Clemson spent a lot of money on independent testing trying to figure out where the ostarine came from...and turned up nothing.
I just don't think he cheated. Ostarine is a weird gray-market substance with uncertain sourcing - nobody really even knows where it's made, though it's supposedly Chinese - and it's known to give a lot of false positives and is minimally effective as a performance enhancer anyway. It just doesn't seem like the sort of thing an athlete looking for an edge would start with, especially in Clemson, SC.
FWIW.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 6:44 PM
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Thanks for the information-based response, Q. I expected nothing less from you.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 6:50 PM
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He hasn’t been with the team or school all year. Has a regular job. It’s not that difficult to figure out.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 10:18 PM
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Tigernet showed him using a scholarship. That implied he was still taking classes. If he's moved on, more power to him.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 16, 2019, 10:26 PM
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He hasn’t been with the team or school all year. Has a regular job. It’s not that difficult to figure out.
He has been with the team all year as a Student Assistant. He was honored at Senior Day. You can see him on the sideline wearing his #77 Jersey.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 17, 2019, 12:06 AM
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Nope, that is incorrect. Zach has a regular full-time job and lives several hours from Clemson. He did show up for Senior day. I worked with his dad until I retired a couple of weeks ago.
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His classmate’s mom??
Dec 16, 2019, 6:22 PM
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Get out of here with that shyatt. What’s wrong with you??
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Re: His classmate’s mom??
Dec 16, 2019, 6:59 PM
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Very tight communities in Class A private and Christian schools. Zach and her kid were classmates the last 7 years, and siblings all know each other, too.
Graduating class of maybe 18-20 per year.
So yeah, the classmate's mom knows the Zach, knows the family, has an opinion, and since she is on the school staff, it matters.
I got to know Zach just a tiny bit from our schools competing with each other. Not a lot; i worked the scorer's table in basketball and watched him interact with his teammates and coach while hanging 35 points on us in a middle school game. Clearly basketball wasn't his preferred sport, but no one could stop a 6'4", 240-lb 7th grader in the post. Most times opposing fans got mouthy in that environment. But Zach was a gentle giant. His domination was so complete no fan could find anything to complain about. Great kid before, during and after the game.
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Being a GA fan trumps all of that
Dec 17, 2019, 12:52 AM
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when it comes to asking her opinion on Clemson football.
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Re: Memories of Zach in middle school
Dec 18, 2019, 12:47 PM
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Sad that some of you carry grudges so bad you give TDs to a post about Zach in middle school.
I had thought that only our basketball fans are petty; shame on me for thinking this was an exceptional place to hang out.
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Re: His classmate’s mom??
Dec 16, 2019, 6:59 PM
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Very tight communities in Class A private and Christian schools. Zach and her kid were classmates the last 7 years, and siblings all know each other, too.
Graduating class of maybe 18-20 per year.
So yeah, the classmate's mom knows the Zach, knows the family, has an opinion, and since she is on the school staff, it matters.
I got to know Zach just a tiny bit from our schools competing with each other. Not a lot; i worked the scorer's table in basketball and watched him interact with his teammates and coach while hanging 35 points on us in a middle school game. Clearly basketball wasn't his preferred sport, but no one could stop a 6'4", 240-lb 7th grader in the post. Most times opposing fans got mouthy in that environment. But Zach was a gentle giant. His domination was so complete no fan could find anything to complain about. Great kid before, during and after the game.
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Re: His classmate’s mom??
Dec 16, 2019, 7:07 PM
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Doesn't mean her kid and Zack were good friends. They may still just be good aquaintances. She is just trash talking.
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Re: just trash talking
Dec 17, 2019, 1:52 AM
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Gee, you’re so smart.
I never would have thought of that.
I never implied she had firsthand knowledge of Zach’s actions, or the accuracy of the findings. I asked her how people were perceiving it. Zach deserves to be proud of his HS alma mater, as well as Clemson, and I’m sure it matters to him in some small way how he is remembered there.
On this board last year, We all discussed at great length the ludicrousness of the NCAA’s punitive policy on Ostarine, a substance that was conditionally legal and very effective before it was absolutely banned. The rest of the world didn’t have that discussion.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 17, 2019, 12:43 AM
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Why even mention the whole classmates Mom thing?? Just wrong RW43.
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Re: What exactly is Zach Giella's status?
Dec 17, 2019, 1:16 AM
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Because perception matters in some areas of life.
Because Zach will never get a chance to set the record straight, because people are too 'polite' to let him.
If i had known he was done and off scholarship, i would have let it go. I didn't and asked a question that only three people tried to answer with information, but only one apparently knew from firsthand experience. The rest proved their Tiger loyalty by trying to bury the topic.
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This man has the answer you seek...
Dec 17, 2019, 7:32 AM
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Dr. Haywood Jablowmi
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