Violence-OhSt Lettermen Row's Austin Ward, Birm & Tim May

Dec 29, 2019, 1:18 PM

I spent several hours watching Ohio St's versions of David Hood before the ball game. They spoke among themselves and interviewed others incl. Herbstreit.

A common theme was the Buckeyes were going to VIOLENTLY hit Clemson in the mouth. Violence is part of football, and I have always loved violent Clemson Defenses especially during the Ford years. The game has moved on. And Clemson has been primarily a finesse team during the Swinney years - a much more talented finesse team in recent years.

This post gets to why the Buckeyes and Day especially are SO BUTTHURT. Violence was central to the Ohio St game plan endorsed by Day and coaches. Live by the sword; die by the sword. Buckeyes knocked the crap out of Clemson in general and specifically on several hits vs. Tee Higgins, ETN, and TL16. And against TL16, it was called. Unless this is the first time the Buckeyes have watched college or pro football over the past few years, no referees will abide by hits to the QB's head area with the hands or especially the crown of helmet.

Day endorsed it, and now he's BUTTHURT. It is what it is. And the crying is now mostly confined to Buckeye/B1G chatter, excuses, and sour grapes, and the rest of the country has moved on to pro football and LSU vs. CLEMSON. Only Buckeye die-hards (and Northwestern/B1G sportscasters like Mike Wilbon & Joel Klatt) believe it's an issue of national importance. Day is a bright coach, and after his hurt dissolves, he will realize that he and the Buckeye coaches over-endorsed the VIOLENT game plan. It is challenging for coaches to regulate on the field. And it cost Ohio St when their CB was tossed from the game.

If Mr. Dave Hood reads this post, or Mr. Rhymer, I'd love to hear your first-hand perspective based on pre-game and game-time events. TIA ...

In the end, Oh St settled for field goals in red zone 3 times, and were outscored 29-7 to close the game. The Buckeyes has chances to stop Clemson and chances to drive and score. It's over. Clemson coaches and players are prepping for LSU. Beyond the crying, Ohio St players played one he11uva game.

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While I agree with 90% of the OP, I could not disagree more with:

SocMan2® said:

And Clemson has been primarily a finesse team during the Swinney years - a much more talented finesse team in recent years.

That description fits the Tommy Bowden era (the reason we were like a yo-yo every week). We are no longer that version of Clemson (thank the Lord) nor have we been for the majority of the Swinney era.

We ARE a highly talented, well coached, fundamentally sound football team that will line up and hit you in the mouth but do so within the left and right limits of the rules. We ARE NOT a finesse team that relies on gimmicks and pure skill to beat you. If that were the case we would not have beaten physical teams like Alabama who have more talent on their roster than we do. Finesse teams don't win 2 out of the last 3 (hopefully 3 out of last 4 very soon) National Championships - only hard nosed, skilled, fundamentally sound football teams that are capable of lining up and whipping you in the trenches do that.

Violence-OhSt Lettermen Row's Austin Ward, Birm & Tim May

You forget that THOSE refs did not call targeting

Bama played like that. Didn’t help them either.

Yep, I though Ohio St was a dirty as Bama***

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Violence is the wrong mindset. Physicality making football

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