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This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?
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This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?


Oct 15, 2018, 9:03 AM

Fortunately I don’t need to get too deep into the “Native American blood” thing with Warren. Her policies and political philosophies disqualify her as it is (for me, obviously). So I’m not sure exactly what her claim has been in terms of “having Native American blood”. Was it this? That there is a Native American somewhere from 6 to 10 generations back on her ancestry? If so, kudos to her. But so what? Has she claimed Native American heritage as a result? Some understanding of their lives? Did she claim to be a minority?

Can you imagine if a Republican claimed that level of Native American heritage? They would be laughed off the stage. Or worse, imagine if you claimed African American heritage because you were somewhere from 1/32nd to 1/512th African American.

Anyway, just thought it was funny. It will be entertaining to see what comes of it if she wins the nomination.



https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/politics/Senator-Elizabeth-Warren-Releases-DNA-Test-Results-to-Support-Native-American-Ancestry-Claims-497556551.html

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Assuming my lineage is correct back to Jamestown


Oct 15, 2018, 9:07 AM

Then I have native american bloodlines too. First place I ran across it was with the original Jamestown settlers. One married a native american, think she was the daughter of a local chief or something, don't remember exactly. Makes me like 1/647th native American, probably.

Still waiting for my casino check to arrive.

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Re: This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?


Oct 15, 2018, 9:07 AM

it is not like trump got on national TV and called her a liar or anything like that. Certainly he has not spent the last two years mocking her at his rallies.

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She listed herself as a minority in The American


Oct 15, 2018, 9:08 AM

Association of Law Schools Directory. Didn’t use it for college admissions.

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This is kind of what I’m getting at. I’d be curious if you


Oct 15, 2018, 9:13 AM

surveyed Native Americans or African Americans and asked if a white lawyer claimed that they were Native American or African American based on one family member 6 to 10 generations back, if that would be okay to them.

Doesn’t that look bad regardless?

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It used to count


Oct 15, 2018, 9:17 AM

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-drop_rule

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So,a few thoughts for you and cac.


Oct 15, 2018, 9:29 AM

First, it does not appear that this “rule” applied to Native Americans. But even if it did...

Second, it’s 2018.

Third, it’s the politics of the use of Native American heritage that apply. No one forced her to claim that heritage because her blood was impure. She claimed it to leverage her minority status, or so the university could (I assume). The question I’m asking is does this vindicate her? Is she going to get on the stump and proudly proclaim that she claimed to be a minority because of a Native American 6 to 10 generations ago?

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my wife's DNA showed 1% Senegal


Oct 15, 2018, 9:31 AM

where my food stamps at? where my Obama phone?

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About that


Oct 15, 2018, 9:54 AM [ in reply to So,a few thoughts for you and cac. ]

https://www.tigernet.com/forum/message/Its-ridiculous-24262404

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I think it does look bad. She is I think only


Oct 15, 2018, 9:18 AM [ in reply to This is kind of what I’m getting at. I’d be curious if you ]

1/32 NA.

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It's ridiculous...


Oct 15, 2018, 9:20 AM

unless she remembers the relative who was native american and knew them personally.

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Re: This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?


Oct 15, 2018, 9:14 AM

So we're not using the "one drop" philosophy anymore?

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by "we" you mean the racist Democrat party?


Oct 15, 2018, 9:29 AM

not sure

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Re: This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?


Oct 15, 2018, 9:16 AM

Honestly, you'll probably find most of us who had ancestors settle here pre-Revolution have some Native American blood in us. My genetics test says I do.

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I pre-date the revolution on all sides but don't have any


Oct 15, 2018, 9:29 AM

I'm 91% inbred Carolina-English

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Probably. My family goes back three generations before


Oct 15, 2018, 9:32 AM [ in reply to Re: This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren? ]

we’re back in Ireland and England.

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300 years ago one of her relatives


Oct 15, 2018, 9:26 AM

#metoo'd a defenseless Indian girl. She's proud of that I guess.

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All these distractions are what's wrong with both sides


Oct 15, 2018, 9:37 AM

I don't give a #### who your great great grand daddy was, where you do or don't go to church, what gender you think you are or want to marry, or if you eat your pizza with a knife and fork.

All I want to know is how are you going to make health care affordable, make sure my pension doesn't disappear, fix the #### roads, and keep the bad guys from blowing us up.

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white people on the left have a sense of self-hate that


Oct 15, 2018, 9:39 AM

manifests in people like Elizabeth Warren's claim to be an Indian. Its certainly an important point to understanding her biases and world view.

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pension?


Oct 15, 2018, 9:51 AM [ in reply to All these distractions are what's wrong with both sides ]

who the hell gets those anymore?

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######### like me who paid 9.5% of their salary


Oct 15, 2018, 9:53 AM

into a fund for 30 years only to have it mismanaged by the state.

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ah, I was about to say


Oct 15, 2018, 9:56 AM

except those living off the gov teat ;)

And people want this same gov to run healthcare lol

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Re: This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?


Oct 15, 2018, 9:58 AM

"Should Warren's ancestral minority DNA date back 10 generations, she would be 1/512th Native American Indian"

..enough to get into Harvard Law School.

I think we are all Native American Indian and potential Harvard hopefuls.

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Re: This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?


Oct 15, 2018, 10:01 AM

Quotations around vindication indeed.

"However, if her ancestor is 10 generations back like Bustamante estimated, she could be just 1/512th Native American."

If she claimed to be african american she'd have to be verified 1/16th AA to qualify, unless it's changed in the past 50 years. To get Cherokee casino money one has to be verified 1/16th Cherokee before they'd write the first check. The best Pocahontas could be verified to be is 1/32nd. Good luck her cashing in on that.


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Re: This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?


Oct 15, 2018, 10:25 AM

I can hear her now, "See! I'm 0.20 percent Indian. I told you!"

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Re: This news is “vindication” for Elizabeth Warren?


Oct 15, 2018, 11:25 AM

I think it means Trump needs to get out his checkbook...

“I’m going to get one of those little [DNA testing] kits and in the middle of the debate, when she proclaims she’s of Indian heritage...," Trump said. “And we will say, ‘I will give you a million dollars, paid for by Trump, to your favorite charity, if you take the test and it shows you’re an Indian.' And we’ll see what she does. I have a feeling she will say no, but we will hold it for the debates.”

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