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It Really is Not a Sport. It's Drama class for those
Oct 13, 2020, 1:58 PM
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with predisposition to like aszes with hair more than aszes without.
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Oculus Spirit [81977]
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Know personnel taxes.
Oct 13, 2020, 2:12 PM
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signed, BigCUFan® .
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Re: This is why I don't soccer........
Oct 13, 2020, 2:03 PM
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If I knew how to link video I would one up you with none other than Jake Bentley. Bless his heart...........
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WRONG BOARD, MORAN!!***
Oct 13, 2020, 2:06 PM
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Orange Blooded [2140]
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Re: WRONG BOARD, MORAN!!***
Oct 13, 2020, 2:47 PM
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Actually most of the world calls soccer football so take that!
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Re: Hey, soccer is an easy target. If'n ya wanna be consistent
Oct 13, 2020, 3:01 PM
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Hey, actually, speaking of soccer, when the USMNT ever gets back to playing, it will have guys on it from Chelsea (Pulisic), Juventus (McKinnie), RB Leipzig (Adams), Man City (Steffen), Barcelona (Dest), Bayern Munich (Chris Richards), and Borussia Dortmund (Gio Reyna)...
...not to mention about a half-dozen other guys who play for EPL or Bundesliga outfits.
How on Earth did that happen?
Crazytown. The US just went and got a bumper crop of young soccer players who'd be 5-stars if they were playing football...right as the USMNT shut down for a year due to COVID.
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Re: Hey, soccer is an easy target. If'n ya wanna be consistent
Oct 13, 2020, 3:30 PM
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It's happening in college football too. Vatech players this past weekend were dropping like flies as UNC moved the ball on them. I saw one player standing alone on the field suddenly collapse, writhing in pain, as UNC was about to score. I hope he's ok.
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LOL at the blue bellies.
Oct 13, 2020, 3:34 PM
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LOL at the tarholes.
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I'll say it till I die. Any game where you ON PURPOSE do not
Oct 13, 2020, 10:34 PM
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use the most useful appendages God gave you is just Stoopit and wrong.
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Re: I'll say it till I die. Any game where you ON PURPOSE do not
Oct 13, 2020, 10:42 PM
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Assuming you are referring to arms those get used a ton in soccer. Mostly for roughing up opposing players though. Hey! That sounds kinda familiar
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Re: This is why I don't soccer........
Oct 13, 2020, 11:36 PM
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Do soccer fans spend any effort or energy degrading American football?
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Re: This is why I don't soccer........
Oct 14, 2020, 3:18 AM
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Actually, in England soccer fans do.
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ban play on US soil, burn existing soccer balls & make it a felony....
Oct 14, 2020, 1:04 AM
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to possess one, & a misdemeanor if say the soccer-
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Re: This is why I don't soccer........
Oct 14, 2020, 9:48 AM
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Bentleys exist everywhere
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I have said for decades that American soccer needs to stop admiring
Oct 14, 2020, 12:25 PM
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The European mindset for soccer.
I had a discussion years ago with a British colleague about a dive a player took and how embarrassing it was. He responded that in fact it was clever soccer because it awarded him a free kick.
It’s just a fundamental difference in what we value in our sports teams and athletes.
American soccer needs to embrace American ideals on its team. That means you STAY ON YOUR FEET while the defender is working your legs. Don’t take a dive, and certainly don’t roll around on the ground and act like you’re dying. When you lose the ball don’t take the next 30 seconds with your hands up looking at the ref...go get the ball. And offense...attack, attack, attack.
The women’s team starting generating fans not just because of how good they were, but they were tough and had a strong identity.
I know that “dives” are a part of every sport but in football they are universally mocked when they do it...in basketball it is almost always at the moment of a shot and kind of a 50/50 take (plus it does usually look painful!). And plus none of those sports are trying to overcome a bad image with American fans (at least in terms of toughness).
That’s what I would demand if I were managing or coaching the Men’s National Team. I’m no soccer or marketing genius but I did play from age four to 30.
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Re: I have said for decades that American soccer needs to stop admiring
Oct 14, 2020, 12:50 PM
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Actually Europeans in general hate divers. The English in particular call them the "Dark Arts" and the Germans don't like divers either, probably because Germans are not exactly convincing actors.
South Americans tend to go the other way. Brazilians in particular are infamous for it. There's this funny Tweet courtesy of a Dutch kid's soccer camp called the "Neymar School of Excellence" that was making the rounds the last World Cup about the Selecao's latest diva forward.
https://twitter.com/football_mumble/status/1015103316542607360?lang=en
What inspired that bit of hilarity was this bit of ridiculousness:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4Qb_xwE8hE
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That's fair. I only developed that opinion off of one
Oct 14, 2020, 2:19 PM
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fan's perspective. Surprising that it can't be removed from the game since fans don't like it. Regardless, that would be my rule #1 if I ran American soccer - stay on your feet, or get back up if you get knocked down. Theatrics = benching.
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Re: That's fair. I only developed that opinion off of one
Oct 14, 2020, 3:03 PM
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They're actually starting to. World soccer actually borrowed something from the NFL - instant replay. They're still getting used to it, but the big leagues - English Premiership, Bundesliga, even MLS - now use something called "VAR" - or "video assisted refereeing" where the ref can either buzz up to the booth or the booth can buzz down to him...and one of the things that can trigger that is what's called "simulation" - diving - if there's a question about whether or not a guy going down is legit.
If video review shows an obvious dive, it's a yellow card. Two of those gets a player a red card, at which point he is chucked out of the game and can't be replaced...and oh, yeah, can't play in the next match either.
It hasn't completely eliminated players from pulling up the landing gear and going to ground if they get breathed on hard, but it's definitely cut way down on the BS, since getting caught for it has real penalties now.
So there's no more Neymar'ing, anyhow. They've gotta be a little more subtle than that now.
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Re: This is why I don't soccer........
Oct 14, 2020, 4:22 PM
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I played competitive soccer my entire childhood through high school and I agree I hate that flopping has become such a part of the game, but I dont necessarily blame the players. It's the governing bodies of the professional leagues fault. Can't blame the competitors for seeking a competitive advantage. They gotten stricter on defenders to protect high value forwards. A defender playing with a yellow card has to approach the game much less aggressively to avoid being thrown out.
Sadly think the same will happen in football too. The more and more they protect QBs the more and more you'll see QBs exaggerate hits. Getting a starting DE or LB or Safety ejected is a huge advantage in some cases. I'm not saying he did or didn't, but the refs on the field didn't throw a flag on the second targeting on TL16. I believe he got the wind knocked out of him, but he very well could have been rolling around on the field to give replay time to catch it. Would be a heady play in my opinion.
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