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How is it embarrassing?
Apr 21, 2018, 9:25 PM
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They are trying to prove a point and make an 8 team playoff w the highest ranked non power 5 involved. Pretty good strategy.
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 21, 2018, 9:27 PM
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Eight teams is a waste of time as they would get blown the F out like tOSU
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 21, 2018, 10:06 PM
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Like Auburn did to them?
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 22, 2018, 6:45 AM
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Like Auburn did to them?
Auburn list four games last year. They were a goid team but not a olayoff team. You also cannot believe that beating UA in a consolation bowl is the sane as winning a playoff game
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 22, 2018, 7:39 AM
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Auburn also played 3 teams that were in the playoff and went 2-2 against them. I didn't say anything about it being like a playoff game. You are assuming they would get killed by a playoff team but Auburn was just as good as the teams in the playoffs.
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 22, 2018, 9:16 AM
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That Peach Bowl meant a lot more to UCF than it did to Auburn. Football is a game in which momentum and effort trumps pure talent. I know I'm tired of hearing the (SEC) team didn't want to be there crap too, but it is real. It doesn't help the perception of the team that didn't show up at all. If anything it makes them look like a bunch of sissy crybaby wussy butts. UCF was a good team but to make the playoffs as a Group of 5 you have to beat someone other than Maryland in the regular season.
As far as stretching the playoffs to 8 teams. I think you would get some watered down games like in the NFL with teams that already know they are locked into the playoffs. Although, this would make it fun beating the coots with our second stringers
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 22, 2018, 10:56 AM
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I don't want 8 teams. I like 4. I just understand why they claimed it. Not even saying they should.
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 22, 2018, 10:45 PM
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Auburn Beat Georgia like a drum. They beat Bama. They lost the rematch with UGA due to injuries, injuries, and more injuries. They were healthy when played UCF.
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Excuse me, but somebody "axed" you a question
Apr 21, 2018, 10:53 PM
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Go Tigers AND Tiger Nation!
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 22, 2018, 7:00 AM
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I doubt this is part of some noble effort to get the playoffs expanded. It's a bunch of self-congratulatory nonsense. They'll never be in this position again and they are trying to make the most of it. They know the pretend title they're pumping is as close as they're going to get. They've gone from making a statement about being in the playoff to completely embarrassing themselves. Look at the schedules and records of the 4 playoff teams; Bama, UGA, Clemson, Oklahoma. How can anyone seriously suggest UCF should have been in over any one of them?
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 22, 2018, 7:31 AM
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1. It's no more embarrassing than several of Alabama's claimed titles.
2. I disagree about the schedules/records. Alabama's best wins are comparable to UCFs. If the records were reversed, do you honestly believe UCF would have gotten in? Bama made it on name recognition and reputation, not on resume.
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Re: How is it embarrassing?
Apr 22, 2018, 7:41 AM
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UCF's best regular season win was over #22 S. Florida, and they hung 42 on UCF. Bama beat #3 FSU (granted FSU wasn't great but they are a more talented team than most everyone else on UCF's record), #19 LSU, and #18 Mississippi St. UCF's schedule doesn't touch that. The committee is about getting the 4 best teams in. Once in, Bama beat #1 Clemson and #3 Georgia. UCF had a good year but I just don't agree they were better than Alabama.
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While I don’t agree w UCF as national champs
Apr 21, 2018, 9:27 PM
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I will say there claim is much better than many of the 16 championships Bama claims and similar ones other SEC schools.
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Pathetic. Typical of our snowflake society. Participation
Apr 21, 2018, 9:27 PM
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trophies for all.
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Pathetic. Letting a few power brokers determine who should get a shot.***
Apr 22, 2018, 12:30 PM
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Thank goodness you have to have a pulse to get a shot.
Apr 22, 2018, 4:01 PM
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Don’t need liberal snowflakes determining the participants!
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the only way to loose should be if someone beats you
Apr 21, 2018, 9:48 PM
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Nobody did. Champions they are.
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In college football this is simply a false statement.
Apr 22, 2018, 12:08 AM
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You can say the system is flawed but it is still the system. If they are calling themselves National Champions they are just wrong.
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they were better than Clemson***
Apr 21, 2018, 9:53 PM
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Fixed it for you.... they were better than Citadel******
Apr 22, 2018, 8:04 AM
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I purchased a UCF national championship coffee mug...
Apr 21, 2018, 10:03 PM
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put it on the shelf of a bama co-worker.
Everyone in the office have seen it except him
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Didn't a team in South Carolina get 5th place rings?***
Apr 21, 2018, 10:05 PM
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 21, 2018, 10:08 PM
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I understand it from their view. They won all their games. In any other sport they would have had the chance to play for the natty.
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 22, 2018, 4:55 PM
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I'll tell you what is embarrassing....Giving Brigham Young the trophy(unbeaten) and to get said trophy bear a 6-5 Michigan State team in a bowl game. Can't remember the details, but i figured that the ghost of B.Y.must have appeared in the AP voters room and threatened Eternal Damnation.
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 21, 2018, 10:54 PM
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That’s torn right out of the gamecock manual.....
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How?
Apr 21, 2018, 11:01 PM
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Go Tigers AND Tiger Nation!
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Re: How?
Apr 21, 2018, 11:09 PM
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Banner and rings say "2017 National Champions".
Champions of what exactly?
Recognized by who?
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Re: How?
Apr 22, 2018, 7:41 AM
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By UCF ofcourse.
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I’m so disappointed that they have taken an amazing accomplishment and
Apr 22, 2018, 12:23 AM
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turned it into something to mock.
Going undefeated is amazing. They should get all sorts of praise and hold their heads up high. But instead they claim something they did not get and act like children about it. It is no secret that if you play in an extremely weak conference you have to bolster your resume with strong OOC games. They choose not to do that.
For goodness sake they didn’t even play 12 regular season games and their conference championship, which they needed overtime to win, was at home. Their SOS was in the mid-50s even after the Auburn win and mid/60s before that game. No playoff team had a SOS below 7.
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Re: I’m so disappointed that they have taken an amazing accomplishment and
Apr 22, 2018, 12:44 AM
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They had a great year, but Natl Champs they aint. very cootish of them to claim something that isnt a reality.
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 22, 2018, 5:20 AM
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My opinion is that UCF had more claim to a championship than Alabama. At least they played their way in (hypothetically) and weren't chosen because of their history, other teams winning/losing, etc. Alabama should not be in the playoff last year any more than Ohio State was the prior year.
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 22, 2018, 6:39 AM
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Wow. I was really beginning to think I was the only person that really got that. Glad to see there’s others that live in reality????
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 22, 2018, 7:07 AM
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You seriously think UCF was better than Bama? That's the goal of the committee - to put in the four best teams. As for your OSU example, they got in and were blown out by Clemson. Bama got in then beat the #1 and #3 team in the country.
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 22, 2018, 7:42 AM
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Exactly. The committee puts the best teams in not the most deserving.
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 22, 2018, 8:06 AM
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I’m not saying they were better, just more deserving of a shot. Best team or not, a playoff spot should be earned on the field....which Alabama clearly didn’t
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Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 8:08 AM
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in the country. It worked out as it should have.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 8:15 AM
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Meh. With only 4 spots, the on field performance in the regular season has got to mean something. Your way of thinking is what gave us the BCS & now makes this flawed playoff run. Open your eyes man. You do realize UCF beat the team Alabama lost to right?
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 8:34 AM
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Look at UCF's schedule then look at Bama's. Look at who each team played, week after week. Look at who they beat and the rankings of those teams. Then look at what Bama did in the playoff. If you can do that and still conclude that somehow UCF was a better team - not more deserving, that's not the goal of the playoff committee, they're looking to put in the 4 best - then there is nothing anyone can say to change your opinion.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 8:50 AM
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I have looked at all that. Now you look at the results on the field in the regular season. You’ll see that Alabama didn’t win their division, play for their conference title or deserve to be in a field of 4 for a national championship. You’re supporting a flawed system that’s about human control in the placement of teams based on television ratings. Take off the SEC goggles and see it for the reality that it is.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 9:03 AM
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"SEC goggles." And there it is. Your problem with Bama being in.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 9:06 AM
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Nice try. You continue to side step the reality of the system being flawed. Judging from that response I can see I’m beginning to open your eyes.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 9:26 AM
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Sure it's a flawed system - humans are making the decisions. But that doesn't mean UCF was one of the best 4 teams in the country. Your argument shouldn't be to attack the flawed system. It should be arguing that UCF was a better team than Alabama. The only argument for UCF is they won all their games. We'll disagree that that makes them better than Bama.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 12:13 PM
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Again, I never said they were the best, just more deserving because of their on field results. You need to go back & read my previous post that states that. You’re trying to put words in my mouth to make your point.
But.... I do see that you’re really starting to get it since you do realize that it’s a flawed system & why. The name of the game should be PLAY YOUR WAY IN. That’s how it works in every other sport & in every other level of football. Alabama clearly did not play their way in & because of how they were placed in it gave them an advantage. Bottom line is they weren’t good enough to get through their season to the game that mattered most...their conference championship. The best teams can be beaten at any time, therefore PLACING who is decided to be the best team by people is asinine. Either way you try to side-step the reality of it is just you further backing yourself into a corner & really having no point to argue.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 12:18 PM
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How does beating a conference full of schools for the deaf and blind make them more deserving? I could field a neighborhood team right now and go undefeated with UCF's 2017 schedule. On top of that, they didn't even play their full schedule LOL.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 12:33 PM
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Wow. Changing your stance huh?
Alabama did the same thing, only thing is they lost to the one good team they played. So you tell me.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 12:50 PM
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If you really think the AAC is comparable to playing in any P5 conference then I don't know what to tell you.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 1:02 PM
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I didn’t say that bruh. You have no argument here. Adults are talking, so you need to just moved along.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 1:06 PM
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"Again, I never said they were the best, just more deserving because of their on field results."
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 1:11 PM
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Nice. Now try actually reading. You show me where I said one was better than the other and we’ll discuss it. I do havto admit though little bugs like you are fun to squash. I’m boarding a plane in an hour so keep it coming while you can. I can’t wait to laugh at your next attempt
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 1:27 PM
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It was insinuated in your quote. How was UCF more deserving on the field? You tell me, because if you're basing it on their schedule then LOL.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 2:01 PM
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Oh I insinuated. Gotcha. You need to bring it stronger than that. Enjoy your sandbox the rest of the day man. Seems to be more on par with your level.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 2:16 PM
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There's nothing else to bring. You're the one who said UCF is more deserving based on what they did on the field. You still haven't told me what exactly they have done. This is why I'm assuming you're talking about navigating through their pitiful schedule undefeated.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 2:34 PM
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I'm giving up with him. He actually believes UCF, on the power of their garbage schedule, was more deserving to get in than Alabama. He's obviously prepared to ignore Bama's wins over more ranked teams and to make much out of Bama losing a road game to a red hot Auburn. To top that off, he's willing to ignore Bama's win over #1 Clemson and #3 Georgia. I suppose the next time S. Florida or Middle TN St go undefeated playing a bunch of high school teams, he'll be complaining they didn't get in over a 1 loss Clemson or Georgia or Penn St.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 3:22 PM
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Good decision. You definitely need to give up since you can’t dislodge the point I made. You know it’s the truth but keep coming with this garbage. Bottom line we need a system that rewards on field achievement and we don’t have it. You show me otherwise & I’ll tip my hat to you, but you can’t do it.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 3:15 PM
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Not really hard to figure out. They beat everyone in front of them and won their conference. Alabama had a cakewalk & couldn’t do that. My point is the system is crap the way it is. Alabama didn’t earn their way in. It’s really simple
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 22, 2018, 4:30 PM
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hate to break it to you, but we lost to Pitt in 2016 and Syracuse in 2017. So we didn't deserve a playoff berth either?
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 23, 2018, 5:52 AM
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We won the conference both years DA. You won’t get over on me with anything so you really should quit while you’re behind.
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Re: Alabama deserved to be there and they were the best team....
Apr 23, 2018, 10:48 AM
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Let me educate you son. Winning your conference is not a prerequisite for the playoffs. It's only taken into consideration IF the teams in question are equal.
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One if bamas MNC is when they went 7-4 and lost their bowl
Apr 22, 2018, 6:54 AM
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Re: One if bamas MNC is when they went 7-4 and lost their bowl
Apr 22, 2018, 4:28 PM
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I hate to break it to you, but we lost to Pitt in 2016 and Syracuse in 2017. So we didn't deserve a playoff berth either?
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 22, 2018, 6:58 AM
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All 1300 fans screaming their lungs out for the unveiling. For national champions, they sure do have a sorry fan base.
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Congrats to them....
Apr 22, 2018, 8:03 AM
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For their Self Congratulatory Championship. Gamecock much? Whatever makes you feel good.
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Re: This is embarrassing
Apr 22, 2018, 11:17 PM
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Hate to say it, but I agree with Dawg on this one. Bama scheduled what they thought would be a tough slate. Did not turn out to be that way. Tough game against a rival away from home. I loath Bama! But they handed it to us.
UCF was a solid team but let’s be honest. They lose 2-3 games with any of the playoff teams schedules. If winning one impressive game out of a season made an national champion then I guess our Tigers can claim NC #3. After all our Tigers had quite a few big wins last year. Their big win was against a team that was also hyped up be a very weak conference. Then they pulled off an upset against Auburn.
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Orange Blooded [2619]
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LOL, participation trophy!***
Apr 23, 2018, 8:58 AM
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Orange Blooded [2918]
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It's not just UCF
Apr 23, 2018, 11:04 AM
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A lot of the bigger schools (Bama, Michigan, etc.) claim multiple national titles because they may have finished #1 in just one of the many unofficial college football polls of that era. Tennessee may be the worst. They claim 6 national titles but only 2 are recognized by major polls. I believe of them came during a season in which they lost 2 games including their bowl game. How is that even possible?
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