Replies: 19
| visibility 1
|
All-TigerNet [11161]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 10900
Joined: 9/17/07
|
Things to deduct when an athlete gets paid:
Mar 18, 2014, 2:29 PM
|
|
Tuition room/board meals dietician personal s&c trainer per diems clothing/shoes tickets skills training academic tutoring
|
|
|
|
110%er [7010]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9418
Joined: 9/9/03
|
Re: Things to deduct when an athlete gets paid:
Mar 18, 2014, 2:40 PM
|
|
Dont forget to adjust for 10% state taxes and 29% federal
FICA and Medicare
MINIMUM.
|
|
|
|
|
110%er [8244]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7565
Joined: 1/1/11
|
Re: Things to deduct when an athlete gets paid:
Mar 18, 2014, 3:05 PM
|
|
Cost of OBAMA aka AHC cost
at this rate of deductions some players will need a second JOB Welcome to the Real World
|
|
|
|
|
All-In [36448]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 18324
Joined: 12/6/13
|
Here lies the problem...
Mar 18, 2014, 3:18 PM
|
|
Only a select few athletes actually have next level skills, so how does the NCAA decide the pay scale? For every one amazing athlete like Watkins there are 30 others who are lucky enough to get a full ride and all the benefits. Too slippery of a slope IMO to pay them, you pay one and you should pay them all.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1099]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 603
Joined: 9/19/11
|
Re: Here lies the problem...
Mar 18, 2014, 3:24 PM
|
|
if a very small if the NCAA would ever allow then Every Student Athlete would have to be paid or the Courts will be over-loaded NCAA can not control the players getting 100$ hand shakes now
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1163]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 1655
Joined: 2/7/07
|
Re:And small schools who don't have the budget to pay anyone***
Mar 18, 2014, 3:26 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
All-Conference [415]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 232
Joined: 8/16/13
|
Re: Here lies the problem...
Mar 18, 2014, 3:31 PM
[ in reply to Here lies the problem... ] |
|
> Only a select few athletes actually have next level > skills, so how does the NCAA decide the pay scale? > For every one amazing athlete like Watkins there are > 30 others who are lucky enough to get a full ride and > all the benefits. Too slippery of a slope IMO to pay > them, you pay one and you should pay them all.
Not only that, but once you open that door, then the top athletes would want to be paid more. Then you would have to create a pay scale based on how good and valuable you are, then eventually you would need a salary cap, and finally you are now a professional football league. The whole thing is just ridiculous. If they don't want to play football and go to school for free, then don't. Just quit and do something else.
|
|
|
|
|
CU Guru [1055]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 731
Joined: 10/13/03
|
Taxes!
Mar 18, 2014, 3:25 PM
|
|
nm
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [2826]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 4497
Joined: 9/14/03
|
Things to deduct when an athlete gets paid at THUGA:
Mar 18, 2014, 3:55 PM
|
|
Bail. Pharmaceuticals. Legal costs. Fines. Rehab.
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10871]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 12937
Joined: 4/18/12
|
Funny thing is, the athletic department may think
Mar 18, 2014, 4:01 PM
|
|
differently and charge YOU more to help offset costs...
|
|
|
|
|
All-TigerNet [10569]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 7143
Joined: 11/11/02
|
insurance, sporting events, travel costs, hotel rooms
Mar 18, 2014, 4:01 PM
|
|
Let them get paid like golfers or tennis players who start the year out with -0- in earnings and are responsible for their own expenses, travel, instructors, meals, rental cars....
They need to keep pie hold shut, play, study and get a degree!
Thus ends my sermon!
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4545]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3357
Joined: 8/14/01
|
Re: Things to deduct when an athlete gets paid:
Mar 18, 2014, 4:58 PM
|
|
On any given FBS team, there is probably no more than 1-5 players that are likely to play in the NFL. The other 80 or so scholarship players are getting well-paid via their scholarships and are happy to have them. Same for the at most 1 or 2 guys on any given NCAA basketball team. The other 12 guys on scholarship might not want to upset the boat. That scholarship may have been a lifelong dream.
When you enter the realm of pay-for-play, I think the student-athletes will be upset to learn how much of their "earnings" will be recaptured. Ok, we'll pay you $200K/year to play for Stanford. As an out-of-state student, you'll owe $85K tuition. Books will be $1000 per semester. Room & board? $3500 per semester. Health insurance, $8K. Oh, and that income is 100% taxable, so let's subtract FICA and federal withholdings. Oh, and you'll have to pay taxes in each state in which we play a game (them's the rules for "professional athletes") .
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4545]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 3357
Joined: 8/14/01
|
Players claim they are being locked out of a "job"
Mar 18, 2014, 5:00 PM
|
|
B.S.
The NCAA does not prohibit players from entering the NBA or NFL drafts. The NBA and the NFL have set age limits that keep a particular age group (too old for high-school, too young for NBA/NFL) from plying their labor there.
There are literally hundreds of semi-pro football teams these players can play for rather than go the college route. I'm not sure about the basketball leagues. It is probably harder to catch an NFL or NBA scout's eye. But there's nothing forcing you to play in the NCAA.
Anyone who wants to form a league that would hire these players blocked out of the NBA & NFL is free to do so, so there is no way the NCAA is forcing anyone to play for the offered scholarship + perks. The NCAA is not limiting anyone's marketability. For that matter, neither in the NFL or NBA. Don't like the rules of the NCAA or the NFL & NBA, then you are free to build a league with different rules.
|
|
|
|
|
Hall of Famer [21557]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 13911
Joined: 9/7/02
|
I agree with everything but the marketability part....
Mar 18, 2014, 6:49 PM
|
|
Players should be able to make money off their own name. If you suck then, then you just get the basic benefits but if you're an all star then you should be able to make money off jerseys, posters, signatures, etc.
|
|
|
|
|
Fan [70]
TigerPulse: 20%
Posts: 368
Joined: 9/21/12
|
Re: I agree with everything but the marketability part....
Mar 18, 2014, 8:54 PM
|
|
then what's to stop boosters/fans from just paying the rest of the players 50,000 for their jersey? boosters could just use that as a way to get around paying all the football/basketball players.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [3706]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 2272
Joined: 9/28/08
|
you forgot
Mar 18, 2014, 7:16 PM
|
|
retirement. State employees pay 7.5% (non-taxable income)of gross.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4787]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9986
Joined: 6/12/10
|
even with medical insurance, add in co-pays, and limits
Mar 18, 2014, 7:27 PM
|
|
for certain procedures, IF they are approved by the medical board.
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4787]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9986
Joined: 6/12/10
|
? how did i get td'd for this comment? do any of y'all have
Mar 18, 2014, 8:59 PM
|
|
absolute control over your medical procedures with health insurance?
|
|
|
|
|
Fan [70]
TigerPulse: 20%
Posts: 368
Joined: 9/21/12
|
Re: Things to deduct when an athlete gets paid:
Mar 18, 2014, 8:55 PM
|
|
Let Clemson deduct all that.. FSU sure wont
|
|
|
|
|
Orange Blooded [4787]
TigerPulse: 100%
Posts: 9986
Joined: 6/12/10
|
HECK, @ usuc they'll make a hefty profit with it. 'roids r u***
Mar 18, 2014, 9:00 PM
|
|
|
|
|
|
Replies: 19
| visibility 1
|
|
|