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The "Death" of Death Valley...
Oct 9, 2018, 12:54 PM
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Ok folks. I'm curious as to what you all think about the future of Death Valley. As we've seen in the last several years, our Tigers have developed into a team that has defeated Alabama, Ohio State, Georgia, Texas A&M, Auburn, etc.. Iptay contributions and season ticket sales have been at an all time high while decent parking and seating is now worth their weight in gold.
Do any of you feel that Clemson will ever have a stadium with a seating capacity over 100k?
Do any of you feel that fans will accept a new stadium built off campus while loosing the 76+ year history of memorial stadium? Perhaps build a new stadium that will still have the hill and Howard's rock.
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Orange Blooded [4423]
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no
Oct 9, 2018, 12:55 PM
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and to elaborate. We have an awesome stadium with unique traditions. its not going anywhere and doesnt need to
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Commissioner [900]
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Re: no
Oct 9, 2018, 1:06 PM
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But they took away our balloons.
What's next, Dippin Dots?
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Re: The "Death" of Death Valley...
Oct 9, 2018, 12:56 PM
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Somebody call GWPTiger® .
She may have just lost the IPOM award.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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Sorry but that's up to the selection committee which
Oct 9, 2018, 1:11 PM
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consists of the following individuals:
coachmac
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Heisman Winner [139844]
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He really is an expert on the subject.***
Oct 9, 2018, 1:13 PM
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I've been saying for a long time that there is no room to...
Oct 9, 2018, 1:12 PM
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expand Death Valley to 250,000 seats in its current location. We really need to look hard at moving the stadium to McCormick if we expect to have the room we really need.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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That's not necessarily true, if we were to knock down a
Oct 9, 2018, 1:15 PM
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couple buildings that only have classrooms in them we could put up a new stadium on campus. It's not like those classrooms bring in the type of revenue our football stadium does.
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The dorms would make excellent rooms for season ticket
Oct 9, 2018, 1:18 PM
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holders.
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Heisman Winner [105574]
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It might be easier to trasnform the
Oct 9, 2018, 1:20 PM
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entire campus to a new football facility and move the school part somewhere else.
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Re: That's not necessarily true, if we were to knock down a
Oct 9, 2018, 1:21 PM
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If Clemson can build the Laser and develop Puffed Wheat, surely they can build a dome over the valley with suspended anti gravity seating. No sweat! Think of the noise the crowd would make!
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Orange Blooded [3049]
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I think the obvious thing to do would be to add another
Oct 9, 2018, 5:38 PM
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level to the stadium. Can you say upper, upper deck? Yep, two upper decks is the new trend in college stadiums.
I'm thinking there could be some ginormous slides to the field for post game celebrations/hasty emergency exit.
You're welcome.
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Re: The "Death" of Death Valley...
Oct 9, 2018, 1:20 PM
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We don't have a large enough student body and alumni base to fill that big of a stadium. We are half as big or less of the schools that have stadiums that large. Not to mention the small population in the immediate area of Clemson.
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Rumor has it Clemson is building...
Oct 9, 2018, 1:21 PM
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...a hologram system for Littlejohn. Overflow seating will be in the coliseum. You'll be able to see the game much better albeit scaled down to fit the floor. The good new is they'll have all you can drink Natural Lite beer included in the ticket price.
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110%er [9654]
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We could always swap stadium with the panthers
Oct 9, 2018, 1:32 PM
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We have more people show up and more fans
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Re: We could always swap stadium with the panthers
Oct 9, 2018, 1:44 PM
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Solid plan except... our stadium is bigger than the Panthers stadium.
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No Way
Oct 9, 2018, 1:33 PM
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We cant fill the stadium we have now except for the 1 or 2 big games a year.
We dont have anywhere else to park people even if we did build a bigger stadium
The trend now is for smaller stadiums with premium seats and more fan amenities, the competition with 50 zillion games on TV is real.
enough said.
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Re: No Way
Oct 9, 2018, 1:39 PM
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I agree, although the only change I'd like to see is closing in the east end zone some, would make it even louder and would only add 2/3000 more seats. I think we should be pretty proud of how much we fill out our stadium each year.
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Re: No Way
Oct 9, 2018, 1:51 PM
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It's coming. From what I've heard an East Endzone Expansion feasibility study is being presented to the BoT this month.
Obviously, we're still a few years out from having an actual design and starting construction, but if they approve the action, they will start looking into options for the east endzone.
I have some concern about the ability to fill more seats, but a few more National Championships should help solve that issue. I assume anything they would build would be mostly premium seats similar to the WEZ and South Club.
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Re: No Way
Oct 9, 2018, 1:42 PM
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If you are talking about the students then yes, they show up for big games but all other games they leave at the half and don’t come back.
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Re: The "Death" of Death Valley...
Oct 9, 2018, 1:50 PM
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Perhaps DV will grow to seat a hundred thou someday. Right now the corners are empty because it's more economical to raise the cost of tickets until some don't sell. That sounds crazy but it's sound economic policy which generates more money that filling a venue with lower rates.
Perhaps when the price of ticket max out additions to the seating will expand. Imo, this depends on variables which can't be determined such as, win/loss records, coaching changes and administration changes. Then there's IPTAY, who knows what Dabo is cooking up with IPTAY?
Imo, there's no predictor for if or when it may happen.
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Re: The "Death" of Death Valley...
Oct 9, 2018, 2:13 PM
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DV will grow with the population of the upstate unless we see a negative inflection point in the growth of the popularity of college football. It will always be on-campus. Dollars will find parking. I can see 100k, but the 100k club will be bigger than it is now. FYI, a few years ago, we were 2nd in ratio of stadium size / student body size behind Notre Dame. Folks, that is pretty cool.
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Re: The "Death" of Death Valley...
Oct 9, 2018, 2:18 PM
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"loosing the 76+ year history". "Loosing", really, I can't take this post seriously.
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I would actually predict that the trend in CFB will be to
Oct 9, 2018, 2:25 PM
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downsize. A 100,000 stadium is actually giving away tickets for 70% of their games and most people just aren't willing to sit in the nose bleeds for the expense when they can watch at home.
Death Valley might add a feature to the East End some day, but that will be to accomodate more luxury seats and to provide additional shade.
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The Should Put it next to the New Clemson University
Oct 9, 2018, 2:38 PM
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The University is being relocated in Westminster.....nice Mountain air...
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Re: The "Death" of Death Valley...
Oct 9, 2018, 3:43 PM
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Memorial Stadium did not originally have upper decks. I believe the West End zone was added later, but I know with a certainty that it was separate from the North and South stands.
My point is that Our stadium has evolved to what we have today. I imagine that it will continue to evolve in the near future. I don't think it will move.
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Re: The "Death" of Death Valley...
Oct 9, 2018, 4:00 PM
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You gota better natural valley in mind? It would be nice if goal post didn’t face east west.
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Why in the world do we need a 100k seat stadium when we
Oct 9, 2018, 5:02 PM
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don't even fill the 82k seat stadium we currently have? Sure - we fill Death Valley for a couple of the "big" home games each year but there are an awful lot of empty seats (particularly in the upper decks) for most home games...
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That will never happen IMHO ...
Oct 9, 2018, 5:19 PM
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I’m not a fan of how our stadium has evolved through its various expansions and I wish we could turn back the clock and do a better job ... but there is no way to do that and there’s no way that a new stadium will be considered in any of our lifetimes.
It’s just not gonna happen.
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