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The NFL playoff system actually enhances the regular season
Dec 13, 2018, 9:31 AM
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because you have more teams playing meaningful games. You have division battles, you have wild card battles, you have teams battling for home field advantage throughout the playoffs....
In college football by seasons end you only have 7-8 teams out of 130 that are still playing for something more than a meaningless bowl game.
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Re: The NFL playoff system actually enhances the regular season
Dec 13, 2018, 9:34 AM
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By the end of the NFL season there are typically less than 7-8 team battling for anything.
There are usually 5-6 playoffs spots locked in. There are typically 4-5 teams vying for the other 2-3 spots.
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Re: The NFL playoff system actually enhances the regular season
Dec 13, 2018, 9:50 AM
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Not true. Even the teams that have already clinched a spot or division are playing for home field.
Only 6 teams total are eliminated which means pretty much every game this week matters.
http://www.nfl.com/playoffs/playoff-picture
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Re: The NFL playoff system actually enhances the regular season
Dec 13, 2018, 10:36 AM
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If you are talking about this week in the NFL then you are talking about week 10 in college football. There are more than 7-8 teams with a chance at that point in the season. The reason people think that nobody has a chance in college football is because they don't expect the top teams to lose because we know they are the best.
In the NFL is the top teams win a couple more games then everything is decided. The difference is that about half of the NFL is good enough to deserve a shot at the Super Bowl. If that were the case in college football then there would be more call for expansion.
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The argument against expansion would be 16-0 New England
Dec 13, 2018, 9:40 AM
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Patriots losing the Super Bowl to a "bad" Giant's team who just got hot.
We all know that New England was the better team. But they lost the 1 game they couldn't afford to lose.
The Giants win the Super Bowl even though they really did not deserve it. That would basically be like LSU winning the Natty this year.
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That is why the NFL owners don't VOTE for the
Dec 13, 2018, 9:57 AM
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Super bowl champion. There is no playoff committee VOTING for who gets to be Super bowl champ and who doesn't.
There are also no NFL fans crying about how their team didn't get into the playoffs when some other team did.
The new England Patriots could have been super bowl champions if they beat the giants ON THE FIELD instead of in a hotel meeting room.
opinions on who deserves what and who doesn't , who is the best and who isn't should not matter.
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There might technically be more meaningful games
Dec 13, 2018, 9:59 AM
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but no single game is as meaningful as a college football game. You can lose anywhere from 6-8 games and still make the playoffs in the NFL. If you lose 2 in college you're done, and sometimes it only takes 1. I know that means a lot of teams are quickly eliminated and the rest of their games don't matter in terms of the playoff race, but every game for teams still in contention are just more tense and more important than almost any single game in the NFL.
Could you imagine if the Patriots had just essentially gotten eliminated from the playoffs on that crazy 70 yard double lateral play at Miami last weekend? That could happen in college, but not in the NFL. The Patriots could go out and lose again next weekend and still be fine. And teams that are already locked into their seeds often rest their starters the last week or two on the season in the NFL - something college teams vying for the playoff obviously can not do.
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Re: The NFL playoff system actually enhances the regular season
Dec 13, 2018, 10:01 AM
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apples to oranges. IMO, the bowl season meant more when there were only 12-15 bowls. You had to earn it and not just win six games. It is still watered down but college's playoffs make it more interesting.
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These bowl games mean a lot to the schools and
Dec 13, 2018, 10:05 AM
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Players.
Which I'm okay with. If I'm bored, I'll just watch reruns of Samford and son.
Buffalo st playing Milwaukee tech in the fart muffler rice rocket bowl doesn't hurt me at all.
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Re: These bowl games mean a lot to the schools and
Dec 13, 2018, 10:14 AM
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interesting name for a bowl. Nothing wrong with watching Redd Foxx.
If the bowl games mean so much, then why is skipping the bowl for the NFL draft becoming so popular? I know money is the attractive motivator, but aren't they letting their teammates, fans and the schools down?
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Those are player decisions, not team
Dec 13, 2018, 11:39 AM
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Decisions..
For every player that skips, there are hundreds that don't.
Only 2 bowls really matter. The outcome of the rose bowl is no more important than the outcome of the Bermuda shorts bowl.
Fans may not care, but the players and coaches do. Even if the outcome doesnt matter , the extra practices, care packages, and vacations do.
I don't understand why people are so upset with meaningless bowls. No1 has to watch them.
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the NBA plays for 6 months to determine which handful of
Dec 13, 2018, 10:07 AM
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teams WON'T make the playoffs... LOL, it's the most meaningless regular season in sports.
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I've been saying this for years....
Dec 13, 2018, 10:12 AM
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Every single sporting league from little league ping pong to the NFL/MLB/NBA has a system where you play your way in. You have a goal (win your division/conference) and you KNOW if you achieve that goal then you can play for the title. You aren't "chosen" by some random dudes in a room.
Why is this 1 specific level of college football the only exception?
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$$$$$***
Dec 13, 2018, 10:14 AM
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Re: I've been saying this for years....
Dec 13, 2018, 1:01 PM
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Because there are over 100 teams unlike pro sports with roughly 30 teams. The NFL has 4 team divisions where each team plays each other twice with a home game for each team, and the schedules are fairly balanced between the division teams.
In college basketball and baseball you can let in over 60 teams and have them play several games within a few days at a single location which is something that can’t be done with the physical play of football.
I’m honestly blown away at how people keep wanting to make it an apples to apples comparison.
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Division 2 football figured it out
Dec 13, 2018, 3:15 PM
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Division 3 football figured it out.
All 50 states have high school playoffs - they've figured it out.
Realign the conferences if you think the schedules are so unbalanced that it's unfair.
You're "blown away" by this comparison, huh? Wow, doesn't take much to blow your mind.
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Wrong. The NFL sucks because they allow their teams to LOSE more.***
Dec 13, 2018, 10:58 AM
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Re: Wrong. The NFL sucks because they allow their teams to LOSE more.***
Dec 13, 2018, 12:21 PM
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They make teams actually win on the field in a legitimate playoff system, instead of being argued in by a committee.
The highest ranked team we played is #19 Texas A&M yet we get a month to prepare for two games to win it all. You let us have a couple losses against a tough schedule one year and get left out and we'll see how the tune changes on here....
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Also, I would argue that college football is a bit different
Dec 13, 2018, 11:31 AM
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because of the parity in the NFL. All of those guys are pros, and on any given day almost any team can beat another. Not true in college football. There's like, what... 60 teams in Power 5 conferences? And there's only a handful that can legitimately win the nat'l title. After about the Top 5 or so, there's a pretty big dropoff.
In college football, you know which teams have the size and depth on both lines and the skill players to be elite. And you know it before the season even starts. Here's the coach's pre-season poll from August 2:
1. Alabama
2. Clemson
3. Ohio State
4. Georgia
5. Oklahoma
Look familiar? LOL. Yep, everybody knew months ago who the best teams in college football were...
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Orange Blooded [4995]
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Re: Also, I would argue that college football is a bit different
Dec 13, 2018, 12:17 PM
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And you're never going to increase parity in CFB when the same handful of teams are dominating the playoffs and thus dominating the recruiting rankings.
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Re: Also, I would argue that college football is a bit different
Dec 13, 2018, 12:28 PM
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https://247sports.com/Season/2019-Football/CompositeTeamRankings/
Playoff teams only wons dominating recruiting?
A&M isn’t in the playoffs, Texas isn’t in the playoffs, Ohio State isn’t in the playoffs, LSU, Oregon?
Win your games or shut up.
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Re: Also, I would argue that college football is a bit different
Dec 13, 2018, 12:36 PM
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Is that what I said? That ONLY the playoff teams recruit well. No it's not.
But the same teams you see playing in the playoffs every year are the same ones you see near the top of the recruiting rankings year after year. The gap between a handful of programs and the rest will only increase.
You want to increase parity in CFB? Give more teams a chance at the national championship.
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Re: Also, I would argue that college football is a bit different
Dec 13, 2018, 12:42 PM
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You are just one huge walking participation trophy.
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Re: Also, I would argue that college football is a bit different
Dec 13, 2018, 12:47 PM
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So you are saying the rise of Clemson and Alabama’s domination over their conferences are a direct result of the CFP format and not due to Dabo and Saban?
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Re: Also, I would argue that college football is a bit different
Dec 13, 2018, 12:53 PM
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Winning make its easier to win in the future absolutely.
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Re: Also, I would argue that college football is a bit different
Dec 13, 2018, 5:27 PM
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Re: The NFL playoff system actually enhances the regular season
Dec 13, 2018, 12:44 PM
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JHop, u r right on target. In addition to the end of season scenarios discussed in this thread, a NFL format would make early games more meaningful also. I thought it was horrible that “experts” told UW and the whole pac 12 that they were out of the CFP when they lost to Auburn by 5 points on 9/1/18. That’s BS, every team should have everything to play for after losing to anyone by 5 on 9/1. Eff the experts. Let ‘em decide it on the field. Eat what you kill.
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Re: The NFL playoff system actually enhances the regular season
Dec 13, 2018, 1:08 PM
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Maybe I’d feel a bit worse for Washington if they didn’t go on to lose 2 more games in addition to losing that game against an Auburn team that finished 7-5?
I don’t feel bad for the PAC 12 because they schedule nobody OOC and usually lose the few tough games they actually do schedule.
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Actually, you have the best teams playing meaningless games
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Dec 13, 2018, 12:52 PM
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toward the end of the season.
No thanks
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Re: Actually, you have the best teams playing meaningless games
Dec 13, 2018, 1:05 PM
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Need either NCAA hoops tourney format or NFL format, but the current format does not create meaningful games from beginning to end.
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Re: Actually, you have the best teams playing meaningless games
Dec 13, 2018, 1:08 PM
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Yea that LSU/Georgia game sure was meaningless
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Re: Actually, you have the best teams playing meaningless games
Dec 13, 2018, 2:26 PM
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The iron bowl last year turned out to be.
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The NFL is a quarter the size of D1 CFB***
Dec 13, 2018, 2:21 PM
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When you can reduce the number of eligible teams to 32
Dec 13, 2018, 3:24 PM
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Then we can do it that way!
The problem is the regular season schedule is predetermined by the league.
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Re: The NFL playoff system actually enhances the regular season
Dec 13, 2018, 4:52 PM
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yawn... new day same #### from the attention-starved OP.
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