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Jul 2, 2013, 7:10 AM
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The ND relationship has us in a standoff
Jul 2, 2013, 7:22 AM
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I can't see us going above 16 teams and I can't see us having uneven divisions by adding just one, and I can't see us taking two new full members to have 17 non-football members. Finally, I can't see us putting ourselves in a position to not take ND if they decide that they would like to join a conference. So, we're stuck until they make a move in or away.
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Re: The ND relationship has us in a standoff
Jul 2, 2013, 9:35 AM
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Yep, but our consolation is we have a multi-year contract with ND for five football games a year and have a league agreement with the rest of their sports.
They might decide to go to another conference (likely the B1G) but we'll make a bundle on the buyout.
JS seems to have done the best he could with what he had to work with.
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Yeah, I'm not saying it was a bad deal for the ACC, but one
Jul 2, 2013, 9:50 AM
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of the consequences is a stalemate in any further expansion.
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Re: The ND relationship has us in a standoff
Jul 2, 2013, 10:31 AM
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ND just resigned with NBC till 2025. They will not be joining anywhere in football till at least then.
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We are going to sit at 15 football members for the
Jul 2, 2013, 8:11 AM
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foreseeable future desperately hoping that ND will decide to become a full member.
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How is this 15 team thing going to work once L'ville joins
Jul 2, 2013, 8:13 AM
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anyway?
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Two 7-Team Divisions for Footbal. 15 Basketball Members***
Jul 2, 2013, 8:41 AM
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It's the best we could have hoped for.
Jul 2, 2013, 9:16 AM
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ND is going to hold out until the bitter end. I don't know when it will happen but last summer some proposed that NCAA football would progress into a four super conference system with 16 members and four pods to each conference with the pod champs matchup becoming the first round of a 16 team playoff system. It's quite a stretch of the imagination.
However, were that to happen ND would be forced to join a conference. We might have the inside track if ND for any reason decides joining a conference is to their benifit.
Who knows? I don't, but I don't think any conference would have turned down the deal we got with the domers.
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Re: We are going to sit at 15 football members for the
Jul 2, 2013, 9:42 AM
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which they wont. ND will never give up football independence. It just wont happen they believe this is something they must have though I'm not sure why.
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Re: More ACC expansion not planned
Jul 2, 2013, 8:58 AM
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"ACC football has been generally perceived as the weakest of the five major football conferences. The league hasn't won a national title in football since Florida State in 1999 and its record in BCS games is 3-13."
this hurts. we need to focus on quality over quantity. Pitt and Syracuse do nothing for football except expand tv markets. Louisville may make some noise if Swofford doesn't clip their wings by requiring their athletes to be able to read. ND gives creditibility but if they win it all, they'll do it as an independent. Clemson and FSU have the whole conference on their shoulders.
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If the league ever does consider further expansion...
Jul 2, 2013, 9:03 AM
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such expansion would likely be aimed at further strengthening its basketball presence in spite of universal acknowledgment that football is responsible for generating the lions share of revenue.
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Didn't a famous football coach say...
Jul 2, 2013, 9:22 AM
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"Dance with the one that brung you?"
It kinda hurt to see us gravitate even close to being a basketball conference cause we suck at basketball. Sorry guys, no disrespect to Clemson but the best we've ever been at basketball is respectful and not that very often.
We've always been a football school. The steady diet of our crotches on the football field is why the tarholes and dookies hate us so much. It's well earned venom we get during a second tier sporting season like basketball.
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Who does everyone think we should go after 5 years down
Jul 2, 2013, 9:08 AM
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the road when ND finally joins the conference in football (I think they'll be forced to because the new playoff system doesn't give them the benefit that the BCS did)?
Keeping in mind that the Big East will pretty much be picked bare at that point. I don't see us being able to take anyone from the Big 12, Big 10, or obviously SEC. I guess we'll go to the new AAC?
Cincinnati and UConn are obvious choices. There's also UCF, USF, Memphis, SMU, Houston, and Temple.
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A lot can change in 5 years. Maybe someone like WVa will
Jul 2, 2013, 9:11 AM
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be looking to make a move...and perhaps someone will figure out how to get around those GOR agreements.
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Agreed...Penn State should be the top target.
Jul 2, 2013, 10:41 AM
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which will be a real challenge unless and until the ACC can equal or surpass the revenue generated by the BIG.
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I would guess Navy would be a top choice.
Jul 2, 2013, 9:58 AM
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Obviously a top-notch academic institution that would both entice ND and fill the geographic void in the DC area.
I personally would love WV. Great location, passionate football fans, pretty good basketball, owns the state, instant bitter rivals with Pitt and VT. Also ends any Big 12 discussion on the east coast (in my opinion).
Penn State would be a dream but with the Big 10 bolstering its Northeastern presence, I'd assume Penn State will be happier there. It's a shame because a resurrection of the Pitt/Penn State rivalry would help the state and Pitt.
UConn would make sense geographically and of course would make the basketball that much more ridiculously good.
I don't like Cincy. I don't like going out there for teams and I don't get the sense that Lville cares that much about them as a rival. If I'm wrong, then maybe they would be a good addition for Lville.
USF and UCF...please, no. We already have two Florida schools and we have 2 of the 3 with tradition.
Temple is an interesting thought but I just don't see them putting the football together.
Memphis is too small-time in football in my opinion.
SMU and Houston are too far away.
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