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I say two
Mar 11, 2015, 2:53 PM
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rod hall and jaron blossomgame
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CU Guru [1692]
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Re: I say two
Mar 11, 2015, 3:05 PM
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I will go with the guy that played basketball at Clemson vs tnet poster.
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Re: I say two
Mar 11, 2015, 3:23 PM
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You mean the guy who bailed on Clemson.
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Legend [16121]
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I know....Who cares what a quitter thinks?***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:25 PM
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Re: I say two
Mar 11, 2015, 9:34 PM
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> I will go with the guy that played basketball at
> Clemson vs tnet poster.
Sure. He's not biased at all. He is also good enough evaluator of talent that he thought he should leave early to go pro. Riiiiiiiight
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Only Hall and Blossomgame would've gotten minutes
Mar 11, 2015, 6:12 PM
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on the 07-08 team IMO. Hall could've spelled Stitt and Blossomgame probably could've come off the bench for Rivers or Booker depending on what kind of lineup we had on the floor. The problem though is that we were already pretty deep at F, and we used KCs outside shooting at SF to spread the floor. We don't have anyone on this current them that could play that roll knocking down corner 3's and slashing when the D overplayed. Then at PF we had Booker and Mays depending on the lineup on the floor. I think we often played Mays at C with Booker at PF despite Mays being more of a true PF. When Sykes would come in at C we could play Mays or Booker at PF. And then we also had Sam Perry that would come in as a super high energy guy off the bench. There's just not a ton of minutes to go around for forwards on that team.
If i could add one player to the 07-08 team it would've been Hall. We were thin at PG that year and Hammonds had to play it for awhile when Stitt got injured. Blossomgame is a nice player that would've seen the floor some but that wasn't a position of need that season.
We weren't quite as deep the following season so i think a guy like Roper would've gotten minutes with Hammonds gone, and probably Grantham too. Interestingly enough, Hall probably would've gotten a lot less minutes that year with the arrival of Young who shot 39% from 3 and had a 3-1 A/T ratio off the bench as a freshman.
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what?!?!
Mar 12, 2015, 10:22 PM
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Over who?? Hopefully this is a joke...Yea they would have gotten minutes very few off the bench lol
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Re: Terrence Oglesby says we have 1 player that could play on...
Mar 11, 2015, 2:58 PM
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Grantham as well. He is going to be a good player. Dude had 7 assist today. His shooting will come around.
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I see TO taking undisciplined shots from far away***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:03 PM
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That's what he does***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:20 PM
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Re: Terrence Oglesby says we have 1 player that could play on...***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:03 PM
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1000 thumbs up. TO couldnt play much on BBs team cuz his D blew.
Mar 11, 2015, 6:15 PM
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But he would kill it for open threes.
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Maybe Andre Young would've played
Mar 11, 2015, 3:06 PM
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I don't think Ray Sikes was any better than Nnoko. Blossomgame and Grantham probably both would've played a lot of minutes on Oglesby's team, although they would've had to split time with Booker. I don't think a Jerai Grant as a SO was anywhere near as good as Blossomgame (Bgame averaged 13 points as a SO, Grant averaged 4), and I don't know that Tanner Smith was any better than Grantham (Grantham certainly has better size for a 3).
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Ray "Bless his Heart" Sykes? F-me***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:16 PM
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TO says we need him***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:21 PM
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Legend [16121]
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who needs TO?***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:21 PM
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Re: who needs TO?***
Mar 11, 2015, 5:18 PM
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Who needs a guy who shot close to 40% from 3 point range his 2 years here? No way a team that shot under 30% from there could ever need a guy who CAN shoot from 3 point range. Sure, his attitude and defense sucked, but he can shoot (Something no one on this team seems capable of doing from outside). We DESPERATELY needed someone like him this season.
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Hes right...
Mar 11, 2015, 3:10 PM
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Our current front court, w/ exception of Booker, is better
Mar 11, 2015, 3:20 PM
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Grantham, Blossomgame, and Nnoko are all better than any of the front court players on that team with the exception of Trevor Booker. They would all get major minutes.
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Re: Our current front court, w/ exception of Booker, is better
Mar 11, 2015, 3:57 PM
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James Mays was pretty good as well
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Re: Our current front court, w/ exception of Booker, is better
Mar 11, 2015, 6:16 PM
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No. Mays was athletic but the fellow could rarely make his first shot. Thatbisbwhy he rebounded with abandon. Mays had not real post up offense skills and his jumpers were not consisten . Mays was epitome of OPs athlete vs bball player.
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Legend [16121]
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Yep....Love James to death, but he missed more lay ups than
Mar 11, 2015, 7:03 PM
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he hit
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Oglesby who jacked up missed 3's over and over...
Mar 11, 2015, 3:17 PM
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while being tightly defended. Then bailed on the team after 2 seasons.
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We would have been much better if we'd had him this year
Mar 11, 2015, 3:21 PM
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and BB woulda let him play.
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No we wouldn't....But we would have heard the tards screamin
Mar 11, 2015, 3:23 PM
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SHOOT IT every time he touched the ball in the frontcourt
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He provided the one thing we so desperately needed.
Mar 11, 2015, 3:26 PM
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Why would we not want him?
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we've already got a sub 6 foot 2 guard***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:30 PM
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Not one that can shoot the outside jumper like TO.
Mar 11, 2015, 3:32 PM
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I guess we needed some more athletes that can't hit the broad side of a barn.
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he can't dribble, pass or defend....Why do we need him?***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:33 PM
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We don't have anybody as it is that does everything well,
Mar 11, 2015, 3:43 PM
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they all have at least one glaring weakness. T.O. could dribble and pass better than half of our current players, plus he could shoot and SCORE POINTS - the one single thing that NOBODY else on our team could do. So what if he wasn't great on defense (even though he was adequate), we needed offense, and he could have provided it.
He had a weakness or two, like every other player we have, but he had a strength that nobody else had.
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Legend [16121]
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He was able hide on a much deeper team, he wouldn't score
Mar 11, 2015, 3:50 PM
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much on this team, they would just stick a bigger guy on him and that would be that...No Booker to DT in the post, no KC to worry about...Just lock down the guy who can't create his own offense...He would have been totally exposed
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Re: He was able hide on a much deeper team, he wouldn't score
Mar 13, 2015, 8:54 AM
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That's coaching!!! If you've got a guy that can light it up you get him open
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Rock Defender [53]
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Put down the pipe.
Mar 11, 2015, 10:14 PM
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"T.O. could dribble and pass better than half of our current players, plus he could shoot and SCORE POINTS"
TO was a career 0.378 shooter. Excluding Josh Smith, Nnoko, and Djitte, who all naturally have a higher FG%'s than Oglesby, there's Jaron Blossomgame, Grantham, Hall, and even Harrison are equal to or better % shooters than Oglesby.
Oglesby had 1.5 career assists per game. Grantham (freshman) has that many from a non-guard spot, and Hall, Roper, and Harrison all have equal to or better assists per game.
And like you admitted, Oglesby was a liability on defense.
Oglesby was okay. That's all.
It may have been discussed already, but what this team needs is a true PG. Put one of those on this years team, and the NIT is a breeze and we likely make it tot he big dance.
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Re: Put down the pipe.
Mar 13, 2015, 9:44 AM
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He shot 38% from 3 pt. land but don't let that get in your way.
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Who the Hell cares what that me-first chucker thinks?
Mar 11, 2015, 3:19 PM
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His classlessness strikes again...Throw another elbow
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I'll bet all of them could finish a NCAA game
Mar 11, 2015, 3:21 PM
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without elbowing their way out of it.....
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Re: Terrence Oglesby says we have 1 player that could play on...
Mar 11, 2015, 3:22 PM
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I do miss having shooters like andre young and kc rivers. Those were some fun days in Littlejohn. I have faith in the team we will have next season. Go Tigers!
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Said the guy who couldn't dribble, pass or defend***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:24 PM
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^^^ really hates Terrence Oglesby ^^^***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:28 PM
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what's not to hate? He's a classless punk and I'm glad he
Mar 11, 2015, 3:29 PM
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quit on us
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Re: what's not to hate? He's a classless punk and I'm glad he
Mar 11, 2015, 3:33 PM
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The truth is salty sometimes***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:34 PM
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Re: The truth is salty sometimes***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:38 PM
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Re: The truth is salty sometimes***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:43 PM
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another account that magically started posting a ton.
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Re: The truth is salty sometimes***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:48 PM
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Sorry 117 can't sit on Tigernet 24 7 like some
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Re: The truth is salty sometimes***
Mar 11, 2015, 4:24 PM
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You couldnt for year but magically you can now.
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Re: still waiting for you to tell me I'm wrong***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:56 PM
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You're not telling me, your scok is***
Mar 11, 2015, 4:14 PM
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Re: The truth is salty sometimes***
Mar 13, 2015, 9:47 AM
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No it's the crow you're eating that's salty. T.O. couldn't dribble?????? Have you ever watched him play?
He's still playing pro ball let me know when Rod get theres or any other guard on this years team makes it.
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Re: Terrence Oglesby says we have 1 player that could play on...
Mar 11, 2015, 3:26 PM
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I for one dont really give a #### what someone who QUIT on Clemson thinks.
TO only cared about one person and one person only while at Clemson... Himself.
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Re: Terrence Oglesby says we have 1 player that could play on...
Mar 13, 2015, 9:20 AM
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They were more to that, than him just quitting plus he went pro.
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The next time TO plays defense
Mar 11, 2015, 3:31 PM
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Will be the first time TO plays defense. I'm not sure he would play on a BB team. Personally, if I'm going to go for a mad bomber, I like Devoe's upside way more than I like TO's.
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Devoe's much better with the ball in his hands***
Mar 11, 2015, 3:34 PM
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Re: Devoe's much better with the ball in his hands***
Mar 13, 2015, 9:21 AM
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I hope you are kidding
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Re: Devoe. I'd have to disagree. At least I've seen nothing
Mar 11, 2015, 3:45 PM
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to give me that impression yet.
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18 points in 6 minutes didn't impress you?***
Mar 11, 2015, 5:10 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83017]
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We all knew he could shoot and that was impressive but
Mar 11, 2015, 9:31 PM
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it was at home and State was milking a huge lead. Oglesby did it fairly consistently, home and away. I just think it's a bit much to say right now he has more upside than Oglesby, Devoe seems pretty lost at times on both ends of the floor. Would love to see him come on though.
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All-TigerNet [13036]
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TO earned a free pass from me with that dagger up at
Mar 11, 2015, 6:14 PM
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Maryland. I can never hate the guy after that even if he did bail on us. He's not far off with this comment either. It's slightly exaggerated, but not that much. Probably more like 2 guys, maybe 3 in TO's soph year after we lost Hammonds, Mays, and Perry.
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Re: Terrence Oglesby says we have 1 player that could play on...
Mar 11, 2015, 9:56 PM
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He's right
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You don't think Grantham, Blossomgame and Nnoko
Mar 11, 2015, 11:04 PM
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would have played...just as a start? Rod Hall would have played as well. Hell, it's not like he put up that many more points that Harrison, and Harrison is twice the defender TO ever dreamed about being.
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Re: You don't think Grantham, Blossomgame and Nnoko
Mar 11, 2015, 11:15 PM
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http://youtu.be/KHPmrOcHtfk
When's the last time we've played a game and the results got you ungodly pumped up? Listen to the key phrase from the commentator "I KNOW ONE TEAM STAMPED THEIR TICKET TONIGHT"
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Re: You don't think Grantham, Blossomgame and Nnoko
Mar 13, 2015, 9:42 AM
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I take that back Hall would have made a good practice team player. You think he wouls have played with Stitt and Young on the team?
I'll be waiting with the crickets
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Orange Blooded [2846]
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Oglesby is chucker and a quitter
Mar 11, 2015, 10:04 PM
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Not a great source. I guarantee you every player on the roster plays defense better than Oglesby.
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Orange Blooded [2846]
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Oglesby would not have played on this team
Mar 11, 2015, 10:06 PM
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Not good enough
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Re: Terrence Oglesby says we have 1 player that could play on...
Mar 11, 2015, 11:00 PM
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He's right.
More specifically our post/interior game. It's embarassing compared to Mays, Booker, and Grant era
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All-TigerNet [13190]
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Really
Mar 11, 2015, 11:02 PM
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Other than Booker I probably take Grantham, Blossomgame and Nnoko over Grant (who magically improved under Brad Brownell) and Mays, who was good in transition, but really struggled in the half court.
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110%er [7390]
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I agree; in fact, everybody in this thread deserves a thumbs
Mar 12, 2015, 6:32 PM
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up for participating in a discussion about basketball on the Clemson site.
Except you, cuz I gave you a thumbs down instead on accident.
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Re: Really
Mar 12, 2015, 10:23 PM
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I Def want whatever you are on tonight holy cow hahaha
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Re: Really
Mar 13, 2015, 7:46 AM
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You have bumped your head
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Oglesby couldn't play dead in a cowboy movie***
Mar 12, 2015, 9:20 PM
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Re: Oglesby couldn't play dead in a cowboy movie***
Mar 13, 2015, 7:45 AM
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You hate much? There's nobody on this team that can shoot the ball like he did.
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Captain Clemson Cancer
Mar 13, 2015, 8:43 AM
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His long range jumpers often led to the other team getting a wide open fast point bucket than 3 points for Clemson...PLUS the guy couldn't guard his own shadow. Jackazz still trying to prove his ignorance.
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Re: Captain Clemson Cancer
Mar 13, 2015, 9:25 AM
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Well I feel alot better now if the coach disagrees with me I KNOW I"M RIGHT.
Where you coaching coach?
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Terrence Oglesby says we have 14 players
Mar 13, 2015, 9:49 AM
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that can dunk better than he can.
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