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TNET: ESPN analyst: "Clemson's schedule is so soft"


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 8:59 AM
 

 
ESPN analyst: "Clemson's schedule is so soft"

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We'd be favored in every game with the coots schedule...

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:02 AM
 

goes along with being the best team in the country.

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Re: We'd be favored in every game with the coots schedule...


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 10:14 AM
 

He got that bass ackwards. USuck is one of the easiest opponents, if u can call them that. How about Texas AM you moron ?. They are pre--ranked 6th or somewhere close to that. Probably an ex coot himself.


Re: We'd be favored in every game with the coots schedule...


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:33 AM
 

I agree with you, but I think he was going off their FPI percentages for how likely we are to win the games on our schedule. I'm guessing the FPI is putting a good amount of stock into us having home field advantage against A&M while playing on the road against South Carolina.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:04 AM
 

Don't care. Will win Natty (again).

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst: "Clemson's schedule is so soft"

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:10 AM
 

Keep on talking SEC homers. Clemson is listening and will continue to handle business. What will be your next excuse for why Clemson beat 3 SEC teams in a season?

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 12:22 PM
 

ESPN is strategically forcing their no-namer, former interns to pump the SEC so that their TV personalities won’t have to do the dirty work and look like idiots when proven wrong like they have the last 5 years


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Re: Great call***


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 7:18 PM
 

Yeah. I was thinking, "Who is this guy?" Perhaps the more appropriate question is, "Who cares?"


Re: TNET: ESPN analyst: "Clemson's schedule is so soft"

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:10 AM
 

Let the talking heads do their talking heads thing.

Even *IF* (notice I'm not saying that 'though', but rather 'if') our ACC schedule were weaker than an SEC schedule, is that really our fault?

What are we supposed to do? Go back to 1953 and tell our university that we shouldn't join the ACC, because in 65+ years, some people won't think it's the best conference?

Pffffft

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spot on


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:23 AM
 

This has always been my argument. What are we supposed to do about it? Beg to get out and join the SEC......why?! We’re doing just fine beating our teams and theirs. It’s such a weak argument that it has become flat out laughable. Let them keep reaching......we’ll keep playing Clemson football. That’s what they fail to realize. The opponent doesn’t matter......it’s the process that out guys are coached. Play Clemson ball......period.


Plus, its not really that "weak" or "soft"

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:07 PM
 

We beat lots of good to great teams like everyone. And like everyone we have some easy games.


Re: Plus, its not really that "weak" or "soft"


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 3:52 PM
 

There usually are only a couple of good teams in the secheat each year, also. Very overrated and propped up by their own secheat network .

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Re: spot on


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:24 PM
 

If the Tigers were magically placed in the SEC and continued to win conference and national championships, what would be the excuse for a weak schedule then? ESecPN just don't get it.

All the major teams have 18 to 21 year olds that are close to the same talent level and it doesn't matter which conference they're in. What matters is how they are nurtured, developed and coached. Dabo and the Tiger coaching staff has figured it out. It wouldn't matter who they play because the schedule would still seem weak! Go Tigers and keep winning the hand you're dealt. Forget these SEC idiots!!

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Huh....turns out our

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:12 AM
 

2018 post-season schedule was soft too....

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Re: Huh....turns out our

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:32 AM
 

That's funny.

:)


yeah, we're favored by at least 14 pts in every 2019 game

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 10:12 AM
 

Luckily we started winning by 32, 27, and 28 in the ACC Championship, Cotton Bowl, and National Championship. If only we could schedule top five teams from other conferences like the SEC for every game, we could double that spread!


We shouldn't have taken our foot


Posted: Apr 19, 2019 10:38 AM
 

off Alabama's throat. We would have scored at least two more touchdowns. 58-16 has a little better of a ring to it, and will stay in the history books longer as their worst beatdown.

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:13 AM
 

No doubt the ACC has to man up, and after a promising start by replacing some okay coaches with apparently really good ones, maybe a reboot is in order. But if one wants to check SOS, in the last four years Clemson has won six games against championship (conference, NC) competition) and lost twice. And is 2-2 against the mighty SEC in NC play. (And let's just ignore Texas A&M and Auburn. What the heck.)


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 3:56 PM
 

I would say Alabama’s schedule must be pretty weak too. They seem to stomp every secheat team they play, too.

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Blah, blah, blah....

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:14 AM
 

New year, same story. Just lining up the excuses for when Clemson wins it all again.

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Who is Seth Walder and why should we care what he says?***

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:15 AM
 



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Where's Walder?


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:10 PM
 

??


Clemson's a 2 TD favorite over 95% of the Power 5

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:16 AM
 

That's a really lame argument. Come up with some facts that compare Clemson's schedule to the schedules of other significant playoff contenders. He need to DO SOME HOMEWORK!

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Re: Clemson's a 2 TD favorite over 95% of the Power 5

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:30 AM
 

Of course it's a lame argument. I could understand the narrative if after the regular season Clemson got blown out by the 1st ranked team they played, but as we all know that hasn't been the case. Without having to post numbers, Dabo and company have the post season record to silence all nonbelievers.

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He just sounds like an Sports Bot when he makes this


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:20 AM
 

criticism.

It's just played out. Last year's strength of schedule was in line with most of the playoff teams. Then with all teams having a significant amount of time off (meaning there's no "We were beat down by our schedule" argument to be made), we absolutely obliterated Notre Dame and Bama.

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It's the Finebaum show and it's ESPNSECBS. Did y'all expect

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:21 AM
 

otherwise?

The best the SEC has to offer, Alabama, starts off w/ Duke, New Mexico St, SCar, and Southern Miss. They have W. Carolina the week before Auburn.

They get Ole Miss, Ark, Tenn, and LSU at home. Their toughest game is probably @ aTm and they go to Auburn and Miss St.

We both play aTm and SCar.

UGA's schedule is only slightly tougher than Alabama's because they host ND and play an improving FL team in Jacksonville but they don't play LSU this year. They also play both SCar and aTm, both at home.

Screw the SEC and the 2.0 GPA most of them rode in on. Clemson will play ANY of you, any time, any field, any day...and beat your brains out.


aaawww...bless your heart, i'm sorry. We'll make it up to

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:30 AM
 

you in the CFP when we beat down your next "greatest team in the history of college football" to prove we belong, don't you worry.

Plus all "a soft schedule' means is we have no margin for error. Means we HAVE to win every game we play in order to qualify for the CFP. And thats why this guy is saying all this. He's trying to set up the narrative so we won't have credit if we drop a game and/or trying preserve the Heisman trophy for Tua due to Trevor's stats given our "soft" schedule.

Its all SEC banter, woe is me, unbelief, we can't accept the Bama Beatdown attitude.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:33 AM
 

I mean, he’s right though. Our schedule is really easy.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst: "Clemson's schedule is so soft"

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:44 AM
 

The better our team is, the easier our schedule is. I think they're trying to say that we're just going to be REALLY good this year.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst: "Clemson's schedule is so soft"


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:13 AM
 

Well, we are really good. But, that doesn’t mean that our schedule is. Our schedule is pretty easy this year, just like it was last year. I don’t have an issue with our schedule, although I do wish we would see more meaningful games in Death Valley. It’s just weird seeing people defend our schedule as though it was difficult.

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 1:48 PM
 

It's even more weird seeing people act like SEC schedules are much harder, then looking at week 13 before the playoffs and then the final rankings and noticing where Alabama' SOS and SOR were paired up to Clemson.



He's trying to say our schedule is easier than everyone


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:12 PM
 

So that would make him wrong


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:42 AM
 

Maybe if half our OOC opponents weren't SEC teams, we'd have a tougher schedule.

Just win, that's all that matters.

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I think calling Finebaum an "analyst" is beyond generous

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:43 AM
 

The only thing he analyzes is whether he'll get close enough to smell Nick Saban's hair at SEC Media Days

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True - soft as Bama’s defensive line in the 4th qtr.***

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst: "Clemson's schedule is so soft"

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:48 AM
 

And please name the teams we wouldn’t be 2 TD favorites against because it’s not many the top couple teams in the country are laughably better then rest... also we will be 20+ point favorites in every game this year because we are the best team in the country and we play both sides of the football...


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:49 AM
 

Whining about schedule is excuse for losers like the coots.


Soft schedule is what we need as a finesse team, right?


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:58 AM
 

turn on your meter.


Two thoughts on this

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 10:05 AM
 

Perhaps that's true. But no team can help how strong their opponent is at the time the game is played. Five years ago, who'd've thought FSU would be as bad as they are and that Syracuse would be our biggest competition in the Atlantic?? No one knows how good or bad any team will be on any given weekend, in any conference. Our sched could end up harder, or even easier. It's impossible to really say.

Second, that's why we have a playoff. If I recall correctly, we beat TWO undefeated teams last year in the playoffs, both highly rated and respected. And we not only beat them, it was a beat down! They were epic blow-outs of the 2 of the 3 media darlings (the other being Ohio St).

Regular season schedule strength is a non-factor. No one can help how good their opponents are on a given weekend. Win 'em all. That's all you need. We did it last year. We've got the team to do it again this year.


Their opinions don’t matter they aren’t on the committee.

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 10:16 AM
 

You’d think by now that you can’t judge a schedule until after the season.


Who cares?


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 10:29 AM
 

Yes, our regular season schedule is soft. That doesn't mean we aren't the best team in the country. Our schedule was soft last year too, and then when we got into the playoff with the big boys won both games by 4 TDs.

Soft schedule vs tough schedule just means we win the games by more points.


Wont know how soft it is until after the season***


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:05 PM
 




it is not a hard schedule...


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 10:38 AM
 

but the only difference between our schedule and the next comparable team (Alabama) is that LSU is better than say BC. But how much better? It is all speculation. The point is, we make to the post-season and WIN BIG.

This kind of talk is about building that SEC bias day in and day out with that crowd on the Finebaum show.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:12 AM
 

Who cares....Clemson isn't soft!

Go tigers!


Alabama thought they could out tough us


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:17 PM
 

How'd that work out for them? ??


Ain't no denying that it's very soft at this point,

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:17 AM
 

but you never know who will be improved. Will FSU improve? Will Louisville or Tech be improved with new coaches? State?

Doubtful this year, just glad we don't play that powerhouse, UVA(28-0).

Still you guys shouldn't be so defensive about it. Huge chance that it will be one of the weakest in the country.

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"Very soft" relative to who?***


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:18 AM
 

And FSU was supposed to be bad last year and SU ended up ranked. It's impossible to judge SOS until you play the games. Until then it's just talk.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:42 AM
 

Does he realize that the "soft schedule" they said we had last year contained 3 teams from that "mighty SEC" (counting the Bama beat down)?

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He's an intern


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:19 PM
 

So its okay if he doesnt always have his "facts" correct.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:45 AM
 

This talk doesn't bother me really, especially since it hasn't prevented us from getting into the CFP in any of the past 4 years, and we even lost a game in 2 of those seasons. People who talk like this would maybe have a point if Clemson wasn't trying to go out and schedule teams OOC each year like Auburn, Georgia, A&M, etc... as it would be easy for us to say we play South Carolina OOC each year and go out and schedule 3 cupcakes to go along with them.

This talk would only really bother me if we had a reputation of taking advantage of an easy schedule to make the CFP and always losing in the 1st round. A few ignorant South Carolina fans would like to pretend that we're like ND has been, and we're overrated on beating a bunch of bad teams. However, no logical fan can deny that we've done more than enough to justify our rankings by beating several elite OOC teams in both the regular and post season.

I don't even think that the media people who make comments like the one this guy made are even trying to say that we aren't good, or we don't deserve our spot. Whenever I've heard comments like this one it's typically been from a standpoint of saying we should be back in the CFP again next year because there isn't a real challenge for us on the schedule. If we miss the CFP it'll either be because we had a ton of injuries, or because we were massively upset 1 or 2 times.


Who?!?

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:49 AM
 

Never heard of her.

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Re: Who?!?


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 11:01 PM
 

Exactly. Literally have never heard this guys name. Ever.


That Plump Fatty Looks "Soft" I Bet He's Squishy Like


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 12:09 PM
 

Ned Beatty in Deliverance. Dabo truly should have hung 60 on Bama, then these junior journalist punks could peddle their drivel elsewhere.

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Re: TNET: ESPN analyst: "Clemson's schedule is so soft"


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 12:11 PM
 

Here's an idea ESPN....skip the regular season and Clemson will play post season only..another NC coming soon


Who? Never heard of him and don’t give a $h*t either***


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 12:11 PM
 



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Dont care...just win baby!


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 12:11 PM
 

thats all that matters.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 12:12 PM
 

I've never even heard of that guy. Plus the Finebaum show caters to Bama fans, of course they're not going to talk too well about anyone outside of the SEC. It's on the SEC Network for crying out loud.


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 12:27 PM
 





Opponent win % is a laughably terrible way of rating SOS


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 1:12 PM
 

Just schedule a bunch of D3 powerhouses!


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 12:50 PM
 

thanks for the locker room gift


Maybe Seth should ask Alabama if we're soft?***


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 1:00 PM
 




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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 1:23 PM
 

44-16


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 1:39 PM
 

Yep. Just like last year which included a 44pt Bama beat down!


About as tough as Alabama last year? Or not play SEC?

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:05 PM
 

I wonder if the ESECPN commentators felt the same about Alabama last year? Or should we stop playing SEC teams like USC as apparently that game has been hurting our strength of schedule lately. Or what about playing Texas A&M maybe we should not play them either? Give me a break. A little look at who the SEC schedules as non-conference may be needed:

Georgia goes with ACC Georgia Tech and Notre Dame as well as Murray State?
Alabama goes with ACC Duke, New Mexico State, Southern Miss and Western Carolina?


If Clemson is weak I would like to see compared to who Seth?


2 TD FAVORITE? If only Bama could cover that spread<snicker>

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:12 PM
 

dd


Hes an analytics guy...


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 2:40 PM
 

who is basing everything off the ESPN developed numbers heading into 2019..which probably includes 10 or 11 SEC teams in the analytics top 25. I wouldn't get so bent out of shape about this, He's a European guy who's only sports experience is covering NYC pro teams for a handful of years.


The whole country is soft compared to Clemson!

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 4:14 PM
 

Eff him


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 4:53 PM
 

Maybe, you SEC homer, the Tigers are two touchdown favorites over everybody because they are THAT GOOD!!!!


It is soft compared to some, but . .


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 5:01 PM
 

if they continue to roll over teams in the playoffs . . it's a mute point.


Of course our schedule is easy, we don’t have to play Clemson.***

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Posted: Apr 20, 2019 1:01 AM
 

Or maybe we should schedule a few NFL teams.

These media pundits are really stealing a living when they come up with this rubbish.


Comes with being the best team in the nation...


Posted: Apr 18, 2019 7:04 PM
 

Last year, for instance, Texas A&M, Georgia Tech, Syracuse, Boston College, USC and Notre Dame ALL gave us a better game than Alabama did in the Natty. We beat 'Bama by 28 points in the Natty but beat all of those six teams by less. Three of those teams were in the ACC, by the way. Clemson will continue to have a 'soft schedule' until someone can 'man-up' and find the formula to beat us. I don't see it happening anytime soon. To be the best, you have to beat the best and Clemson is obviously heads and shoulders above everyone currently. So, our 'schedule' is going to continue to be soft until a challenger emerges. At least, that's the way it looks to me. Go Tigers!

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 7:32 PM
 

Truth is: out schedule isn't soft. Our opponents are so inferior to us. Huge difference.

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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 9:54 PM
 

Haters will hate!


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Posted: Apr 18, 2019 10:33 PM
 

Good thing CLEMSON is a 'finesse' team.

When does practice for Alabama begin? Since PJ is no longer at GT, can we go ahead and start practicing for Bama prior to that game? Let the copy-cat practice begin.


The SEC was not impressive ln 2018

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Posted: Apr 19, 2019 12:29 AM
 

Clemson crushed the best they have to offer. Texas beat UGA, and UVA stomped the coots in bowl games.

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Posted: Apr 19, 2019 12:30 AM
 

Weak schedule....haha......we dusted both Notre Dame and Bama in the playoffs! Guess they are part of our weak schedule.


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Posted: Apr 19, 2019 7:48 AM
 

Typical propaganda. Say or call it the easiest in the power 5 without a shred of evidence. And i always heard, keep you mouth shut, even if everyone in the room thinks you’re dumb on a subject, don’t open your mouth and confirm it. He must be an idiot, if he thinks USUC is our toughest game.
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Posted: Apr 19, 2019 11:40 AM
 

Three things:
1. It’s not Clemson’s fault or within Clemson’s control that FSU tanked, Louisville bombed, & no one in the Coastal been any good.
2. Clemson beats the good teams when they play them too. Only Alabama has beaten Clemson when it mattered of late.
3. USuC isn’t helping one bit. Can we swap them for UGA to help with this scheduling PR thing?


Forget Him!


Posted: Apr 19, 2019 12:48 PM
 

We beat the good teams when we play them as well! Some of them we make look like "weak teams"! 44-16. 30-3.
These people need to stop already! They really are making themselves look like donkeys!


it would be different if we made it to the playoffs based on

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Posted: Apr 19, 2019 1:29 PM
 

Our season record and collapsed to the other competition, but Clemson left no doubt of who was superior in the playoffs too.


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SEC schedule is so soft!

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Posted: Apr 20, 2019 4:40 AM
 

Clemson owned!

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