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Someone explain the onside kick to me
Jan 12, 2016, 8:57 AM
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Obviously the rule is different than anyone thought if the play was in fact legal. And I get the reference to the rule. B
But if those are the rules what rule change was implemented a few years ago that made kickers start having to drive it in the ground to get it to pop up. why doesn't this apply here. It's not the fair catch so what else could it be?
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Re: Someone explain the onside kick to me
Jan 12, 2016, 9:01 AM
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You kick into the ground to take away the option to fair catch the ball. If the nearest Clemson player signaled for a fair catch, the Alabama player could not have touched the ball until it hit the ground.
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they kicked it straight in the air, ball never touched the ground***
Jan 12, 2016, 9:03 AM
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Re: they kicked it straight in the air, ball never touched the ground***
Jan 12, 2016, 9:10 AM
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We never signaled fair catch therefore the Bama recovery was legal. Please learn the rules queenie.
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you should study as well, no fair catch is required
Jan 12, 2016, 10:55 AM
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fair catch or not the receiver has the same right to the ball. Based on actually looking at the rule, the problem is we didnt have anyone in the zipcode to be impeded. Rule specifically says receiving team has to be in a position to resonably be able to catch the ball, and we were not in that position.
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Re: Someone explain the onside kick to me
Jan 12, 2016, 9:05 AM
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The problem was we were so far out of position that no one was close enough to make or signal for a fair catch. After 10 yards, it is a live ball. That play was brilliantly executed.
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Re: Someone explain the onside kick to me
Jan 12, 2016, 9:09 AM
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The ball does not have to touch the ground. If there is a player from the receiving team calling for a fair catch or attempting to field the kick, he must be given that opportunity. But, unlike a punt, it is a live ball.
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yes it does have to touch the ground, seen that happen plenty of times..
Jan 12, 2016, 9:12 AM
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throughout the years and a penalty flag is thrown each time
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You're wrong***
Jan 12, 2016, 9:58 AM
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Re: You're wrong***
Jan 12, 2016, 10:00 AM
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As usual
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Bama was offsides and the ball has to touch the ground before a defender can recover...
Jan 12, 2016, 9:03 AM
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Cheating refs plain and simple
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Re: Bama was offsides and the ball has to touch the ground before a defender can recover...
Jan 12, 2016, 9:11 AM
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The ball doesnt have to touch the ground.
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Re: Bama was offsides and the ball has to touch the ground before a defender can recover...
Jan 12, 2016, 9:19 AM
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Clemson blew it by not signaling for a fair catch!
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Re: Someone explain the onside kick to me
Jan 12, 2016, 9:05 AM
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See the post "Onside Kick- Interference with opportunity to catch"
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Re: Someone explain the onside kick to me
Jan 12, 2016, 9:16 AM
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Blame it on the special teams coach. If Clemson's defender (Kearse?) signaled for a fair catch, then Clemson would have received the ball plus 15 yards for interference by bama.
Fair Catch
1. The member of the receiving team must raise one arm a full length above his head and wave it from side to side while kick is in flight. (Failure to give proper sign: receivers’ ball five yards behind spot of signal.) Note: It is legal for the receiver to shield his eyes from the sun by raising one hand no higher than the helmet.
2. No opponent may interfere with the fair catcher, the ball, or his path to the ball. Penalty: 15 yards from spot of foul and fair catch is awarded.
3. A player who signals for a fair catch is not required to catch the ball. However, if a player signals for a fair catch, he may not block or initiate contact with any player on the kicking team until the ball touches a player. Penalty: snap 15 yards.
4. If ball hits ground or is touched by member of kicking team in flight, fair catch signal is off and all rules for a kicked ball apply.
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