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Re: This is sad.
Nov 2, 2020, 9:12 PM
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We finally agree Catahoula. This is sad, indeed.
(....and wth td’ed your post!?! smdh....)
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Re: This is sad.
Nov 2, 2020, 9:17 PM
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I don't worry about TDs. They're a badge of honor. Probably T3 because he goes on the sprees when I make him mad and he TDs every post I make that day. But they're meaningless.
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Re: This is sad.
Nov 2, 2020, 9:27 PM
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I hear you, and agree, the numbers/pulse are irrelevant, but still I think it’s a dipstick move. To each their own I suppose.
Have a good one my friend.
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Re: This is sad.
Nov 2, 2020, 9:28 PM
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Uncle bill,
You reminded me of this one.
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Re: This is sad.
Nov 2, 2020, 9:13 PM
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lol, it‘s all lies. I love how the article calls Trump every name in the book but the “worst” thing they call Biden is pro-choice. Lololol
Thanks for supporting that drivel, but that article is a joke.
Good point though. None of the politicians care about me, so why not pick the one with lower taxes?
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You didn't read it.***
Nov 2, 2020, 9:15 PM
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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what did he miss...
Nov 2, 2020, 9:29 PM
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the article seems to blaming Trump for the divide in our country. There are a couple examples of democrats shunning their Trump-supporting relatives, but the whole gist of the article is this is Trump's doing.
And this lack of balance and objectivity is one of the key reasons we will remain divided as a country.
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I’ll admit that I didn’t read it all, but I did read the
Nov 2, 2020, 9:45 PM
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first couple paragraphs. Enough to remind me of family and friends who have rifts because of opposing political views. I can’t talk politics with quite a few family and friends. So we don’t. They’re still family and friends, however.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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that's the way we deal with it***
Nov 2, 2020, 9:50 PM
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Re: what did he miss...
Nov 2, 2020, 9:47 PM
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It covers the last four years, which focuses on people's opinions of Trump.
The bias isn't there in that article, except in the cases where someone just wants it to be.
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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I didn't realize I had groundrules before I read it...
Nov 2, 2020, 9:56 PM
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The title is: "'You are no longer my mother': How the election is dividing American families"
So first, I'm assuming there are at least two candidates in this election.
You're right, there is no bias. It is a piece that completely blames Trump for the division in this country.
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Re: I didn't realize I had groundrules before I read it...
Nov 2, 2020, 10:04 PM
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They interview five Trump supporters and five Biden supporters.
Please tell me which lines, written by the authors and not quotes from Biden people interviewed, blame Trump for the division.
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Re: I didn't realize I had groundrules before I read it...
Nov 2, 2020, 10:14 PM
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You said above that the article is about people's opinion on Trump the last four years.
That may be what the article is about, but the title it says the article is about how the election is dividing families.
Actually the article is about how Trump is dividing families, so it's closer to what you say.
I think everybody agrees that it is sad that politics are dividing families. But Trump didn't start it and he's not the only one dividing families that are allowing it to happen.
You said Keowee didn't read the article. I've read it 3 times now. It is clear that there are 5 democrats and 5 conservatives, but it's Trump's fault in each circumstance per the article.
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Re: I didn't realize I had groundrules before I read it...
Nov 2, 2020, 10:21 PM
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Again, please give me specific lines from the authors.
Of course this wasn't new before Trump. It's gotten worse. They provide data to show how the divide has worsened under this presidency. No matter how you feel about his presidency, it's gotten worse during that time.
Yes, I think it's quite clear Keowee didn't read the article.
Again, specific lines, and not quotes from sources.
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I've started writing a response about 5 times...
Nov 2, 2020, 10:53 PM
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and I'm taking a breath and backing out. We aren't family per se, but we are exhibiting the problem that the article is talking about. We are reading the same article and getting two completely perspectives. We could go on and on about why we think the way we do, but it's such a waste of time.
I think you are intelligent, I just disagree with you on this, and that's okay.
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Fair enough. I think the same of you. Have a good night.***
Nov 2, 2020, 11:00 PM
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It’s right here in the article setup.
Nov 2, 2020, 11:15 PM
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I’m not sure how else you could read the tone of the article
“ In interviews with 10 voters - five Trump supporters and five backing Democratic candidate Joe Biden - few could see the wrecked personal relationships caused by Trump’s tenure fully healing, and most believed them destroyed forever.”
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The direction of the blame by the MSM seems irrational.
Nov 2, 2020, 10:59 PM
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A political party conspires with the FBI. Two leftist/marxist groups riot almost continuously. Serious people advocate giving almost all electoral power to 5 states.....
Sheriff Bart (Blazing Saddles) holding himself hostage by pointing a gun to his own head, getting the town to blame themselves for what he might do to himself, was supposed to be satire. It was prophetic.
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Re: You didn't read it.***
Nov 2, 2020, 9:30 PM
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My fav part. She added: “And if Biden wins, I don’t think they will go quietly into the night and accept it.” lol. You know those trump supporters causing all the ruckus. Businesses are boarding up to protect themselves from Trump voters. This crap is straight propaganda.
Who are the additional reporters? Why London? “ Reporting by Tim Reid in Los Angeles, Gabriella Borter in Raleigh, N.C. and Michael Martina in Detroit; Additional reporting by Elizabeth Culliford in London; Editing by Ross Colvin and Daniel Wallis”
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Oculus Spirit [83625]
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If you can't overlook political differences in your family..
Nov 2, 2020, 9:34 PM
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I'm guessing there are deeper issues that probably need to be addressed.
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Right. The issue is very legit, and deserves discussion,
Nov 2, 2020, 10:05 PM
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introspection, etc. And the stories about how families are being affected should be told and understood. But its not about politics. Its like reading in an article that the major causes of divorce are money issues, failure to communicate, death of a child, etc. Might as well say that life causes divorce. Which is not far wrong, but is another subject.
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Math
Nov 2, 2020, 9:55 PM
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-First story is about a woman whose son won't talk to her because she supports Trump.
-The article says they interview 5 Trump supporters and 5 Biden supporters.
-Next story is a woman who supports Biden and separated from her Trump husband (doesn't say if that's why). She said two of her grandchildren won't talk to her anymore because of her politics.
-Next story involves a woman whose brother won't talk to her because she won't support Trump, and even withheld from here that her mother died.
-The next one is a woman who cut ties with Trump friends and for a while didn't speak to her father about it.
-Next is a Trump supporter who says the relationship with his son is now strained.
-Then a woman in Asheville who won't speak to her mother any more because her mom supports Trump, and she won't let her son. She also mentions that her mother tried to kick her out of the car for disagreeing on politics.
-Finally, a former Republican woman who now supports Biden. She has issues with family but they speak.
So where, precisely, are you getting this "90% of the stories were people that weren’t talking to Trump supporting relatives anymore."
The story is balanced. Period.
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More math...
Nov 2, 2020, 10:04 PM
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Trump mentioned 33 times, Biden 6 times.
The balanced story has a concluding section heading entitled, "UNCERTAIN POST-2020 ELECTION WORLD." No wait, it's "UNCERTAIN POST-TRUMP WORLD."
And it's concluding statement warns us of the unrest that will follow when Trump loses:
“And if Biden wins, I don’t think they will go quietly into the night and accept it.”
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Re: More math...
Nov 2, 2020, 10:11 PM
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The story covers all four years, as mentioned. Biden wasn't a factor through all those four years.
The catalyst is Trump. Disagreement over him has ultimately led to pushing people apart. The election has heightened it.
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Re: More math...
Nov 2, 2020, 10:14 PM
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Re: More math...
Nov 3, 2020, 7:57 PM
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The catalyst is the DNC, The Deep State Bureaucrats, and the MSM. You know it but won't admit it.
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Re: Math
Nov 2, 2020, 10:11 PM
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Re: Math
Nov 2, 2020, 10:17 PM
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It isn't made clear the woman separated with her husband because of Trump, which is unlikely. They separated after the election. And her grandkids won't speak with her.
It's balanced, but I'm not surprised some of you are missing the ultimate point by twisting in knots to find bias that isn't there.
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Re: Math
Nov 2, 2020, 10:26 PM
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Re: Math
Nov 2, 2020, 10:29 PM
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We get what you think the point of the article is, and we got it before you posted it, as many have explained. We’re just laughing at the “feel good” article you chose to make your point with.
Well, anyone laughing probably needs to grow up and is part of the problem. Perhaps my biggest fault was being naive enough to think an article like this could generate good discussion on a board that inhabits regular cretins such as your self. Look. It's you and Capt. Crash. Great company to keep.
I feel sorry for whoever has to deal with you in your own family given your reaction. You would be the type of person to put Trump ahead of family. After all, you see anyone who doesn't adore him as your enemy.
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Re: Math
Nov 2, 2020, 10:34 PM
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Re: Math
Nov 2, 2020, 10:38 PM
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Uncle Bill didn't say that. He agreed with me. Love Franc, but he's wrong here. Keowee didn't read the article. Crash is an imbecile who can't string together a complete sentence let alone read anything over 200 words.
Please don't cry and whine about personal attacks. No one does it more on this board than you.
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Re: Math
Nov 2, 2020, 10:41 PM
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Re: Math
Nov 2, 2020, 10:45 PM
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You know, over time you have...
-Said you were putting me on ignore.
-Said you weren't going to respond to anything else I post.
You've said that repeatedly over and over and over, yet here you are, once again, replying to everything. For someone who hates what I post, you sure seem obsessed with it.
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So now reuters is biased against Trump?
Nov 2, 2020, 10:10 PM
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If only you guys going after this article knew how it made you look.
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Re: So now reuters is biased against Trump?
Nov 2, 2020, 10:18 PM
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It's pretty sad how badly the point of this article is going over some of their heads.
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if you werent so full of dogmanure, this would be ok.
Nov 2, 2020, 9:28 PM
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this is yer second attempt (at least) at this kind of bs. Win or lose, get ready, bubba
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Re: This is sad.
Nov 2, 2020, 9:31 PM
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Whenever I try to calmly discuss an issue with my conservative family they get upset and start yelling. THEN, they get pissed off that I am not yelling back.
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Oculus Spirit [97634]
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Yep. Putting politics before family.
Nov 3, 2020, 3:46 AM
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But it makes sense in 2020 America. When one family member depends on government and not their family, if they have one..... Yes. Sad.
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Re: This is sad.
Nov 3, 2020, 1:10 PM
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I 100% disagree with this entire line of thinking:
...caused by one of the most polarizing presidencies in U.S. history could be healed if Trump loses the election.
It's complete bullchit. What has become polarizing is the rise of socialism and worse on the left. Don't blame this on Trump - what an elementary school take and one that echoes strongly in the progressive echo chambers.
Both Obama and Biden have said "fundamental transformation" when talking about the country. Not because the country changed overnight and all of a sudden became "bad," but because socialism and left-wing thinking has overtaken the democrats.
There is a clear and rationale explanation for and it is expected that families will be broken up if some endorse a move towards eliminating the USA as it has been known and goose stepping towards socialism and others do not.
What is sad is so many people have been duped into hating the country, duped into everyone is a victim (except conservative white males), and duped into everyone believes the MSM.
This is sad indeed.
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These people are clinically insane
Nov 3, 2020, 1:16 PM
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Thats it. Thats what this boils down to. If you're putting politics between you and your family, friends, career, happiness in life.
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In 2016 - my cousin told her grandmother she
Nov 3, 2020, 4:31 PM
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would never let her meet her grandchildren because she voted for Trump.
There are psychos on both sides...
Very sad.
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