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So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all
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So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all


Dec 6, 2018, 3:09 PM

And let's just address this one in a separate thread. From one of his rants about right vs. left, he said this:

"Leftism/Liberalism is an utter failure. The only reason it persists is due tot he fact that it appeals to basic human impulsiveness.

Its entitlement culture, and its destructive. It needs to be eradicated from our society."


Interesting perspective.

I have argued to some here that I have witnessed/heard more than one Trump fanatic off this board hint at civil war or violence to somehow right the ship that is America. Tokillagamecock is one of two (Chesty the other) whom I have seen call for it on this board.

He doesn't directly say violence, but the only way you're eradicating a political ideology is to wipe out the millions of people who believe in it.

I'm curious as to thoughts on this from our conservatives here who are rational, level-headed, and intelligent, like cam, flow, Obed, etc.

Because I certainly don't agree with a lot of right-wing philosophy, but I would never call for eradicating those people from our society.

Of course, tokillagamecock, if you meant some other method for removing it from our society, please, by all means, correct me and explain your strategy.

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Why do level-headed people need to answer


Dec 6, 2018, 3:22 PM

for things non-level-headed people might say?

Just in case it matters, I'd like to proclaim that I am opposed to the killing of people based on their political ideology. I hope this helps.

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That's a very good point.


Dec 6, 2018, 3:24 PM

Perhaps the entire discussion is moot.

I suppose even after all this time, I struggle to wrap my head around the existence of any person who would wish for something like this regardless of their beliefs.

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I doubt that the person, in real life,


Dec 6, 2018, 3:26 PM

would say he wants people killed. He just made a weird statement on the internet is all. If he responds, he will surely say he did not mean killing people, and he'd be telling the truth.

I just find the sequence funny.

*Extreme liberal* says that conservatives should be put in jail. WHAT SAY YOU CATAHOULA?!?!?!?

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"Lock him up! Lock him up!"


Dec 6, 2018, 3:28 PM

That's how we do it, right?

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Re: So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all


Dec 6, 2018, 3:29 PM

Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.

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Dec 6, 2018, 3:36 PM



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Re: So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all


Dec 6, 2018, 4:43 PM

Eradicate means a lot of different things here. Did you ever hear me call for violence? No, you didnt. Violence is your brand of politics, not mine. I "cling to the 2nd Amendment and my guns" as a defense against tyranny, not to control people and wage an offensive war upon fellow Americans.

Eradicate means to expel and erase any and all presence of something. And that is exactly what needs to be done with Leftist/Socialist beliefs.

Its pretty straightforward, anytime Leftism/Fascism/Socialism has been applied, in over 100 different countries on every single continent, it has not only utterly failed, but resulted in economic collapse, social destruction, and the deaths of millions.

Capitalism/Westernism/American Right Wing ideology has never caused this destruction. In fact, it has only enhanced the wellfare, conditions of human rights, and economic prosperity for every society that has adopted its values. This is a proven fact. I dont care whether you want to believe it or not, its a fact regardless, and the adoption of the American model of Capitalism and Western thought is being adopted by more countries than ever before. Nations that globalize under this standard see quick and significant economic growth, increases in wealth, and advancements in human rights unlike anything seen in human history. In fact, the ENTIRE field of political science dedicated to International Relations is based upon the globally agreed upon fact that Capitalism (and the American Model specifically) is thus far the greatest socioeconomic system in terms of advancing welfare, economic prosperity and wealth, and human rights in recorded history. It is why almost every developing nation flocks to this model, because it is highly successful.

For some god forsaken, ignorant, and asinine reason, you deliberately adopt ideals of Liberalism/Socialism, you promote them, and you advocate that they are superior, when demonstrably and factually, they are not.

The ideologies you promote are utterly destructive. There is not one single aspect of Liberalism/Leftism/Socialism/Fascism that has provided any bearing of positive growth in any society it has been installed within. The ideologies of the Left have only destroyed the countries they have taken hold of. Over the past 100 years, we have vast amounts of evidence to prove this. And yet, you choose to remain ignorant and demand we adopt those same destructive ideologies here in the U.S., which is the wealthiest and most prosperous nation in recorded history.

Honestly, I don't understand how someone can be that ignorant. And it is the Leftist ideology and the ignorance that promotes it that needs to be "eradicated".

Also, I never voted for Trump. I am a hard line Libertarian, as I've stated multiple times. My personal beliefs reflect this, and while Trump has done many good things for our economy and judicial system, he has done poorly in other areas. So I don't know why you keep calling me a "trumpie". It also makes you sound like a child. If you continue to claim I'm a "trumpie republican" well, there's really no help for you. Very little of what I have posted is in line with what the Republicans and Trump want. There is very little comparison to what I believe and what Conservatives/Republicans believe.

What I mean by "eradicate" is a no-tolerance policy towards any type of Leftist/Socialist/Fascist system of beliefs in this country. Not by the government, as that would be tyranny, but by the people. The people need to be educated, and learn that Leftism is an inherently horrific political ideology. People who refuse to listen and still promote Leftist ideals should be drowned out, ignored, and outcast by the public until they stop trying to ruin our wonderful nation.

Right now, the Left caters mostly to the youth, because they know young people are not experienced enough to know better. Pair that with some fancy marketing that focuses on "empowerment" and "justice" and free government programs, and you can sell it more easily to young people, which is a shame.

But, please remember that the Left is also responsible for the majority of political violence in this country. They perpetuate violence because their system of belief is 100% catered towards impulsiveness and emotion, not reason or logic. Read up on Keynesianism, its the economic school of thought behind American Leftism. Its incorrect on every level, but its what Leftists believe. The opening belief of Keynesianism literally says "why save or invest our money instead of spending it on what pleasures us now, for tomorrow we may be dead." Its literally nothing but politically installed selfishness, impulsiveness, and hedonism. So when faced with opposition, they dont know how to act outside of throwing a violent tantrum, because impulsiveness and emotion is all the Left knows.

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Re: So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all


Dec 6, 2018, 6:10 PM

I'll just answer paragraph by paragraph.

1. You can't find one post where I advocate violence. Also, I own guns and support the 2nd Amendment.

2. You have yet to explain HOW this is done. Taking a "zero tolerance" policy won't eradicate it. So give me your plan.

3. Fascism and socialism can't go hand in hand, and the more you claim they do, the more foolish you look. Explain how extreme right wing ideology and extreme left wing ideology somehow work together.

4. A bunch of long-winded red herring. Stick to the subject at hand. We aren't discussing capitalism or conservative politics. We're discussing your extremist views against political opposition.

5. Show me how I push ideology that is socialist. Spoiler: You won't be able to.

6. Show me specifically which ones I promote that are destructive. You must provide links to my exact statements. Put up or S T F U.

7. The problem with your assumption of this ignorance is that you continue to assume you know every stance and issue I have. You don't. You're young, naive, and have a long pattern of making false assumption about people on this board.

8. Son, I'm far more Libertarian than you are. I support social policies which tend to lean left, yet I support fiscal responsibility and less government authority as much as possible. I've been in that boat when you were still in diapers. You, however, come on here and assume to know where I stand. I support every ####### one of the Bill of Rights, which if we sit down and really peck at it, I'm pretty sure we'll find you don't. And if you don't take stances towards social policies that lean left, then you can't claim to be a Libertarian. It's the ####### core of the party. Listen, I know, lots of right wingers have tried to adopt the term "Libertarian" because they think it sounds cool, but they really don't support their ideology. Economically they do, but not socially.

So you don't like someone assuming you're a Trumpie, huh? Don't like people making assumptions about ya, yeah? Funny how that works. Here's the problem: Your entire basis for your belief about what I am is my opposition to Trump. That's it. That's all ya got. See how this matches up?

9. So how do you educate those people? You can't force the education on them, can you? So then you can't eradicate it through that method. Got any other plans?

10. People historically get more conservative as they get older, as a whole. You haven't made a new revelation here.

11. The majority of domestic terrorism in America since 9/11 has come from far right extremists. Thanks for playing.

I made an A in AP Econ and a 4 on the exam in 1996. Pick up your consolation prize on your way out the door.

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Re: So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all


Dec 6, 2018, 9:38 PM

You need to check your hormones on a regular basis.

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Re: So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all


Dec 7, 2018, 7:41 AM



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Re: So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all


Dec 7, 2018, 9:57 AM [ in reply to Re: So, I'mma pull this tokillagamecock quote to the top for all ]

1. You can't find one post where I advocate violence. Also, I own guns and support the 2nd Amendment.

- You openly supported the protests in the 2016 election by Liberal activists groups which engaged in violence.

Also, I own guns and support the 2nd Amendment.

- LOL yeah, okay. And I went to the moon once with Eddie Van Halen on the Apollo 13.

2. You have yet to explain HOW this is done. Taking a "zero tolerance" policy won't eradicate it. So give me your plan.

- I already did, many times, in this post and others. Please read.


3. Fascism and socialism can't go hand in hand, and the more you claim they do, the more foolish you look. Explain how extreme right wing ideology and extreme left wing ideology somehow work together.

- Facsism is a Left Wing construct. The early Progressives/Liberals in America openly stated that American Progressivism was "American Fascism". Socialism is the core component of Fascist ideology. Nationalizing major industries, appealing toe motion, Keynesian Economic Theory, eliminating the right to bear arms, eliminating capitalism, eliminating democratic government, and using propaganda to publish the ideal that "the state will provide for all" is the model of Fascism and it is identical to American Liberalism. Fascism has never been, nor ever will be, a "Right Wing Philosophy".

4. A bunch of long-winded red herring. Stick to the subject at hand. We aren't discussing capitalism or conservative politics. We're discussing your extremist views against political opposition.

Yes we are. You are a Liberal and you consistently push Leftist ideas and Socialist politics on this board. Every political and economic construct you believe in starkyl contrasts and opposes Westernism and Capitalism.

5. Show me how I push ideology that is socialist. Spoiler: You won't be able to.

- You own post history gives that away.

6. Show me specifically which ones I promote that are destructive. You must provide links to my exact statements. Put up or S T F U.

- Again, your own post history where you push Liberal ideas.


7. The problem with your assumption of this ignorance is that you continue to assume you know every stance and issue I have. You don't. You're young, naive, and have a long pattern of making false assumption about people on this board.

- I only criticize the things you post, which adhere to Far-Left ideologies. Its pretty straight forward.

8. Son, I'm far more Libertarian than you are. I support social policies which tend to lean left, yet I support fiscal responsibility and less government authority as much as possible. I've been in that boat when you were still in diapers. You, however, come on here and assume to know where I stand. I support every ####### one of the Bill of Rights, which if we sit down and really peck at it, I'm pretty sure we'll find you don't. And if you don't take stances towards social policies that lean left, then you can't claim to be a Libertarian. It's the ####### core of the party. Listen, I know, lots of right wingers have tried to adopt the term "Libertarian" because they think it sounds cool, but they really don't support their ideology. Economically they do, but not socially.

- I am not your son. You dont know how old I am. Libertarians neither lean left, nor right. So making that statement about "if you dont take stances toward social policies that lean left, then you can't claim to be libertarian" is totally false.

So you don't like someone assuming you're a Trumpie, huh? Don't like people making assumptions about ya, yeah? Funny how that works. Here's the problem: Your entire basis for your belief about what I am is my opposition to Trump. That's it. That's all ya got. See how this matches up?

- Not true. I have criticized your opposition to Trump, mostly because your opposition to him is based on media hysteria and not fact.

9. So how do you educate those people? You can't force the education on them, can you? So then you can't eradicate it through that method. Got any other plans?

- Debate, discourse, and using our resources to make sure their voices are drowned out. Put financial pressure on universities to not hire Liberal professors, for example.

10. People historically get more conservative as they get older, as a whole. You haven't made a new revelation here.

- I wouldnt say more conservative. Just less Liberal/Socialist

11. The majority of domestic terrorism in America since 9/11 has come from far right extremists. Thanks for playing.

- I'm almost entirely convinced you're Rachael Maddow at this point. Since 2001, there have been 5 cases of "domestic terrorists" that associate with the right, though in actually these "terrorists" have all been associated with extremist groups such as American Nazis, who are so extreme in their views that it is impossible to consider them "Far Right", especially when many of their core beliefs are rooted in Socialism.

Virtually every mass shooting committed since 2001, except for the Charleston Shooting, Charlottesville, and the Wisconsin Shooting, was committed by someone proven to be severely mentally ill and not associated with any sort of political leanings. Other shootings such as San Bernadino, Ft. Hood, Pulse, and Virginia Tech were committed by an South Korean individual with no political motive, and Muslims. Other incidents such as Binghampton (Vietnamese immigrant).

In fact, reading through the list of Domestic Terrorist events on Wikipedia, it is clear the #1 reason for domestic terrorists events is mentally ill youths, followed by employment disputes, and finally followed by domestic disputes (shooting or terror event due to an estranged, angry ex-spouse). Political motivated shootings account for less than 10% of domestic terror events since 2001.

The claim you make that "Far right terrorists" are the most common in the US is a made up accusation, created by Kevin De Leon of California in a speech from 2016. His claim is 100% unbased and unsupported by any fact. It is purely a statement of propaganda that has been consistently parroted by far-left liberal news outlets like CNN, MSNBC, HuffPo, Vox, etc.

Because you are parroting that same propaganda as truth, its pretty clear you are a Leftist/Liberal. But we already knew that, since you openly support and advocated for "Democratic" Socialism and supported the Democrat party in recent elections.

I made an A in AP Econ and a 4 on the exam in 1996. Pick up your consolation prize on your way out the door.

- I earned a Bachelors of Political Science from Clemson. A Masters in Political Science from UGA, and worked in Washington D.C. for a number of organizations dedicated to policy and international relations. So, I am very confident that my understanding of the various political ideologies and schools of thought that compete and contrast within our political system is significantly more advanced than the propaganda you read on Huff Post.

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Good times!


Dec 7, 2018, 2:58 PM

- You openly supported the protests in the 2016 election by Liberal activists groups which engaged in violence.

Yeah, um, where did I do that? Give a link.

- LOL yeah, okay. And I went to the moon once with Eddie Van Halen on the Apollo 13.

I don't know your background with it, but given how much you posture, you're probably one of those new age gun owners who went out to buy a gun because your church told you to and it's a wonder you haven't shot yourself in the foot yet. Boy, I grew up out in the woods of Spartanburg. Anyone who has been on here for some time knows I always support 2nd Amendment rights.

- I already did, many times, in this post and others. Please read.

Your explanation sucks and won't work. What's your other option?

- Facsism is a Left Wing construct. The early Progressives/Liberals in America openly stated that American Progressivism was "American Fascism". Socialism is the core component of Fascist ideology. Nationalizing major industries, appealing toe motion, Keynesian Economic Theory, eliminating the right to bear arms, eliminating capitalism, eliminating democratic government, and using propaganda to publish the ideal that "the state will provide for all" is the model of Fascism and it is identical to American Liberalism. Fascism has never been, nor ever will be, a "Right Wing Philosophy".

Welll, if you won't take my word for it, here's some stuff from guys a lot more educated than you who spend their lives studying this stuff. $20 says you dismiss it without reading it.

http://www.oxfordhandbooks.com/view/10.1093/oxfordhb/9780190274559.001.0001/oxfordhb-9780190274559

You want fascism to be a leftist policy because you know fascism is evil but don't want to have it associated with any of your politics. It's like Gamecock fans pretending their program never cheated.

Don't worry about it, though. Chill. Fascism is the EXTREME right wing. Not a Republican or an average conservative. Here. Look at it like an SAT analogy. Fascism:Extreme Right as Communism:Extreme Left. See? Easy. A fascist and a communist can't be in the same extreme political spectrum. Their ideologies don't mesh. Part of your problem is you think there is a standard economic policy attached to fascism. There isn't. It's varied in different fascist regimes. Fascism applies mainly in government authority, human rights, militarism, social rights oppression, bigotry, etc.

One of the key elements of fascism is how intertwined government and religion are. In communism, there's elimination of this religious presence. Which one sounds more leftist to you?

Yes we are. You are a Liberal and you consistently push Leftist ideas and Socialist politics on this board. Every political and economic construct you believe in starkyl contrasts and opposes Westernism and Capitalism.

Then prove it. Link my posts. I can, however, save you time by stating I mainly believe in a free market and minimal government intervention into those markets. I believe government spending has needed slicing for years and that bloated programs, including our overstuffed military budget, need cutting. Of course, this begs the question why I would state this if I didn't believe it, but you keep on assuming and doing you, Boo.

- You own post history gives that away.

Prove it. Put up or shut up. You can't provide one link where I've supported socialism.

- Again, your own post history where you push Liberal ideas.

On social issues, you're #### right I support a lot of liberal ideology because that involves the government staying the #### out of people's personal lives. Just like conservative ideology involves the government staying the #### out of our wallets, which I also like.

- I only criticize the things you post, which adhere to Far-Left ideologies. Its pretty straight forward.

Give just one specific example. I dare ya.

- I am not your son. You dont know how old I am. Libertarians neither lean left, nor right. So making that statement about "if you dont take stances toward social policies that lean left, then you can't claim to be libertarian" is totally false.

So going by your behavior, your claim that you graduated in 2014 in your profile, and assuming you aren't an older dude who went back to college, that would put you at 25 or 26, right? By all means, correct me if wrong.

- Not true. I have criticized your opposition to Trump, mostly because your opposition to him is based on media hysteria and not fact.

Sure. Okay. I'll stop calling you a Trumpie. Okay?

- Debate, discourse, and using our resources to make sure their voices are drowned out. Put financial pressure on universities to not hire Liberal professors, for example.

Well, debate and discourse won't eradicate ideology, as you said. It never has. So your other alternative is to either fund or pull funding from universities to force them to hire right-leaning professors? That doesn't seem very tolerant, does it.

And conservatism hasn't died due to liberal professors, so what makes you think conservative professors will kill liberalism?

Long rant about domestic terrorism.

Have fun.

https://www.splcenter.org/20180723/terror-right

Again, can you show me that post where I support "democratic" socialism and supported the Democratic party in the elections? Are you sure you aren't mixing me up with someone else?

- I earned a Bachelors of Political Science from Clemson. A Masters in Political Science from UGA, and worked in Washington D.C. for a number of organizations dedicated to policy and international relations. So, I am very confident that my understanding of the various political ideologies and schools of thought that compete and contrast within our political system is significantly more advanced than the propaganda you read on Huff Post.

Oh no. You missed my sarcasm in that last comment. You thought I was trying to flex intellectual nuts. Bruh, I was cracking a joke about a class in high school since you were spouting stuff that's basic high school economics. I get it. I get it. You have degrees and you're smart. Good for you. Most of us on here are in that boat.

Now, that AP Calculus class... that's another story. But this really hot cheerleader sat in front of me so I was kind of distracted.



Okay, you know what's the irony here? I bet if you and I really mapped out what we believed and looked at how we viewed the Bill of Rights, I bet we're pretty much on the same page. We can test it out if you like, cause I ain't gonna claim to believe something on here that I don't.

Here's why I think you assume I'm some raging leftist/socialist: I called you out on your post that liberals hate Western civilization, and that's just a silly claim. Remember that one? I think since then, you've had a bug up your butt about me.

So, when you're ready to stop assuming you know all what I am, let's talk.

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