Re: Since everyone is talking about Murray....

Thought I would give my opinion.

I've been watching a lot of videos of him from this past season.
I don't see how this guy can be called "elite".
Is he good? Yes. His throwing power and accuracy is his obvious strength. His ball handling skills when he is pressed to run are very poor. On top of that, he is not a fast runner and his scrambling ability is very weak. He is not a dynamic rusher at all.

Another thing to look at are his eyes. Murray's eyes are ALWAYS on his target receiver. It almost seems like Murray picks who he is going to throw it to before the play and stays determined to throw to that receiver no matter what. That kind of diligent planning is great for a rush offense, but with a passing game you need to be able to open up the field and spread the secondary.
Looking back, I think this is one of the reasons why UGAy lost to Bama in the SECCG. Murray seems so set on throwing it to one specific receiver he gets tunnel vision and ignores the others. I even noticed this on the few plays where he does roll out of the pocket, he STILL holds he ball out instead of tucking it, and he STILL keeps his eyes on his intended receiver. Good DBs know that if you want to get a good read on the QB, watch his eyes to see where he is looking. QBs like Tajh, Shaw, and Manziel always keep scanning the field and keep their feet ready to go.

Finally, I think Murray's success last year stemmed from the strength of his receivers. Highlight films of Murray show he pretty much either throws a long pass with lots of vertical receiver routes, a play action that rolls him out of the pocket, or he hands it to his tailback. It seems that the receivers had size and strength on their side. Instead of having to use speed and finesse to escape the DBs, their receivers pretty much ran over them. Now that UGAy lost their 2 best receivers this past spring, Murray will be struggling to keep up with his passing game. He will still bean offensive threat, but he will have to significantly step outside of his comfort zone to make the big plays necessary for the dawgs to win, which would hard enough without this problem Murray is now facing.

We all know UGAy is big on momentum, and if it breaks or their players come into the game psyched out like Murray did before the USuC game ("Clowney gives me nightmares" -Aaron Murray) UGAy will not be able to get into their rhythm. Willy B was rockin for the UGAy game, and look what that home field advantage did. If that place affected the UGAy players, imagine how badly Death Valley will mess with their heads. It set the record for the loudest stadium in college football TWICE. A top 10 Clemson and top 10 UGAy meeting in Clemson will make the place explode (I'm expecting another noise record...). That intensity and pressure on an easily shaken Murray and a young and inexperienced UGAy defense will definitely work in our favor.

I predict a Clemson W.

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Re: Re: I hope it works out like us tnetters are predicting.

Jun 24, 2013, 1:01 PM

In a shootout between Murray and Boyd, Boyd wins.

Lets say you have a football team whose offense consists of lerfectly average players. Every member is exactly middle of the road as far as talent, experience, and ability.
Put Boyd in as QB. Boyd has proven he has the ability to throw far on vertical routes, throw short slants to the inside and outside, throw small swing screens to the side, and RUN the ball VERY well.
Boyd has just as much throwing power as Murray, and he is much more accurate (see "4th and 16" against LSU).
The other great thing about Boyd is he is the center of our offense, Murray is not. Boyd has an increadible knak for reading plays and thinking FAST on his feet, he is good at "winging it" when the original play isn't working out. His ability to think fast works well eith Morris' increadibly complex, fast paced, and dynamic offensive schemes. He also has excellent awareess and field vision. you mever sed Boyd looking at ONE guy the entire play like Murray does, that is how you get sacked or cause turnovers. Put Boyd on this ideally average football team and he will be able to adapt and adjust appropriately to make the play. Boyd doesn't need to worry about getting out of his comfort zone because he is capable of using every angle or trick to make the play.

Murray on the other hand is a classic pocket passer. He stands in the pocket and throws down te middle to a receiver on an inside vertical route. Effective, yes. Often times in a man-zone defense that area can get overlooked as the DBs are trying to cover everyone. However, that is Murray's ONLY real trick. It may have worked last year, but now that he is figures out he will be easier to stop. This tactic also suggests that Murray, while he has a strong arm and an accurate throw, actually has very poor abilities when it comes to reading the defense, especially if they are playing the zone. Every bad game Murray has had was when he was forced to get out of the pocket or throw to the outside. He picks the receiver he will throw to before the play and ALWAYS throws to that one guy (which is why UGAy lost the SEC championship game), unlike Boyd who always keeps his eyes open and is ready to run if the need arises. Murray cannot scramble, which will prove to be his breaking point during the game. The game Murray plays is very deliberate. There is no "ad libbing" in his offense. The UGAy O is very powerful, and that slow, deliberate style is effective against weaker teams that cant handle that much strength.

But, you put Murray on that average team and he will perform poorly. His receivers wont make the passing opportunities for him like they did last year, and he'll be forced to either wait for an opportunity to pass (praying his average team's O-line holds long enough) or he will be force to run (something he is very weak at).

Murray is getting over hyped. The reason he has gotten so much attention is because of the strength of te rest of his team. Murray isn't the center of the UGAy O like Boyd is with ours. Yours is more balanced with a slight bias to your tailback system. It allows Murray to get opportunities to make plays. The fact he is getting this hype is simpy because he plays QB. Its one of the perks of the position being the play caller on offense.

The Murray craze is typical media hype and this year will show that Murray isn't so "elite" after all.

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I hope it works out like us tnetters are predicting.

Re: I hope it works out like us tnetters are predicting.

Good Stuff

Murray is a darn fine quarterback