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Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND
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Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:01 PM

if you have an opinion - who should we pursue with great urgency ?

The post about how many do or don't feel a certain way made me wonder.

You are the AD - you have to decide - no need for editorializing.

I'll go first.

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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Gotta go - no idea who to pursue.***


Mar 14, 2017, 3:01 PM



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Brad Brownell: Only Larry freaking Shyatt has a WORSE overall winning percentage among Clemson basketball coaches since 1975. Let that sink in. It's Larry Shyatt & then Brad Brownell.


Re: Gotta go - no idea who to pursue.***


Mar 14, 2017, 3:04 PM

You O W N E D that poll !

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DB23


Re: Gotta go - no idea who to pursue.***


Mar 14, 2017, 3:20 PM [ in reply to Gotta go - no idea who to pursue.*** ]

second this! BB has to go!! He said that he "was comfortable with his job and what he was doing"!! I have NEVER SEEN anyone with that attitude make the HUGE IMPROVEMENT that is needed. Why should he? He is a FAILURE and he is comfortable!!

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:05 PM

Go and Will Wade

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March 4th 2016- "Lee won't be here 4 years from today" - Viztiz


Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:09 PM

What?!? I don't I've ever agreed with you on T-net. ?? He needs to go and we need to go after 1) Wade 2) Keats 3) Mike Davis

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:05 PM

Has to go! Try for Marshall with increased administration support for basketball and equal footing with football. If he says no, there are quality coaches out there . Just make sure that they are great recruiters this time.

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:08 PM

SMH

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March 4th 2016- "Lee won't be here 4 years from today" - Viztiz


Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND ]

> Has to go! Try for Marshall with increased
> administration support for basketball and equal
> footing with football. If he says no, there are
> quality coaches out there . Just make sure that they
> are great recruiters this time.

Never hire Gregg Marshall, unless you want the NCAA camping out at Clemson.

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:25 PM

When was Marshall ever in trouble with the NCAA?

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND ]

Equal footing with football? Why in the hell would we do that?

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:33 PM

the person you are replying to is nothing more than a troll.

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March 4th 2016- "Lee won't be here 4 years from today" - Viztiz


Go. Let the AD decide who to hire.***


Mar 14, 2017, 3:07 PM



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Re: Go. Let the AD decide who to hire.***


Mar 14, 2017, 3:24 PM

NOOOOOOOOO!!! our AD is the one that gave him this huge unearned contract with this STUPID BUY-OUT!!There is an illegal cutting the grass up @ the Baptist Church that could do better than DRAD

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:24 PM

Unless we get smacked by Oakland, he stays. Gets one more year.

I have no idea who to hire. Like the Will Wade suggestion, but whatever the case, we're gonna need to pony up to the tune of 2.5-3MM A year if we're serious about winning and coach accountability.

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One moar year with recruits coming in***


Mar 14, 2017, 3:28 PM



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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 3:34 PM

Absolutely has to go.

We have 2 options:
1. Make it clear we will buy the best coach we can and start bidding for everyone. $3 mil buys a really good coach and can give us instant credibility on a commitment to basketball.

2. Come to the realization that we have to differentiate ourselves. I would really like Will Wade, but any coach who presses. That system works well here and helps to even the playing field with schools like Duke, UNC, etc. It is similar to GT running the triple option. It gives them an identity and allows them to play with more talented teams. If we don't go big name, then we need a coach who will run for 40 minutes.

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 5:04 PM

If we lose tonight or badly to Bama then a total review is in order. I am 63 yrs old and am tired of inconsistent basketball.

Coach Brownell has faced many challenges in his tenure, but seven years is really enough time to turn a corner. If we win twenty games this season in the NIT then I say give him next year only to make the NCAA or be gone. If we bomb the NIT then send him packing with a buyout.

Either way Drad needs to go after Will Wade first, Gregg Marshall next or Pat Kelsey to turn the page of Tiger BB. Being "comfortable" is NOT a comment for a coach who finished 6-12 in a year when his team was supposed to make the tournament! Brownell really needs leave of his own accord, but with a buyout less than his contract, but I doubt that happens.

Go Tigers!

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 5:08 PM

Amen!

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Keep him another year or two.


Mar 14, 2017, 3:55 PM

If you are going to build new facilities to help recruiting, then it doesn't make much sense to fire the coach who needs them (and helped get them funded and built) after just one year. So far, they have only made a small impact because the 2017 recruits never got to see the finished product during their recruitment. They only got to see the drawings.

As we know, this 2017 class is Brownell's best class. It is not unreasonable to see what happens in 2018 and 2019, with the expectation that recruiting will continue to improve.

Plus, he has a lot going for him:

-Highest team GPA and graduation rate on record
-Recruits quality young men who represent our university well
-No off the court issues
-He has greatly increased the donor base for basketball
-We were competitive in almost every game this season

Maybe he can't get us over the hump, but when you look at the overall job he has done, another year or two is justified.

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"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Re: Keep him another year or two.


Mar 14, 2017, 4:00 PM

Recruits are not stupid judge. Adding one or two years will not fool recruits. They won't come to a place where the coach is in limbo. Either make him a big extension or cut ties. Brownell has done nothing to earn that kind of extension. He's a loser.

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Of course he would get an extension.


Mar 14, 2017, 4:08 PM

It makes zero sense to keep him and not extend his contract. Add a couple of years to it, but keep the buyout structure the same so that Clemson is protected.

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"All those 'Fire Brownell' guys can kiss it." -Joseph Girard III

"Everybody needs to know that Coach Brownell is arguably the best coach to come through Clemson." -PJ Hall


Oh, and he loves Clemson.


Mar 14, 2017, 4:07 PM [ in reply to Keep him another year or two. ]

That alone is obviously not a reason to keep him, as the ultimate measure is wins and losses. But if he is as successful as we hope he is, I think he would stay at Clemson and not bolt for somewhere else. This is an important consideration, since we have never shown the ability to retain successful coaches.

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Re: Oh, and he loves Clemson.


Mar 14, 2017, 4:14 PM

Losers hid behind graduation rates. 1 NCAA tournament in 7 years! A 12th place finish in the ACC! Enough is enough. It's about winning and losing. Cut the buyout to make it clear that he will be fired . Why do fans constantly defend bad coaches at Clemson?

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Re: Oh, and he loves Clemson.


Mar 14, 2017, 4:18 PM

"Losers hid behind graduation rates." Speak for yourself. I want our players to graduate but then again I am not a loser troll who created an account 7 days ago and has done nothing but spew garbage all over the baord since then.


Message was edited by: Clemalum07®


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March 4th 2016- "Lee won't be here 4 years from today" - Viztiz


I haven't heard anybody defend you Mac***


Mar 14, 2017, 4:23 PM [ in reply to Re: Oh, and he loves Clemson. ]



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He is not a loser pal, and he doesn't hide behind


Mar 14, 2017, 4:32 PM [ in reply to Re: Oh, and he loves Clemson. ]

anything.

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Re: Oh, and he loves Clemson.


Mar 14, 2017, 4:27 PM [ in reply to Oh, and he loves Clemson. ]

He can leave now.

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Re: Keep him another year or two.


Mar 14, 2017, 4:18 PM [ in reply to Keep him another year or two. ]

Leggett personally fundraised the new baseball facility and was fired before getting to use it

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Re: Keep him another year or two.


Mar 14, 2017, 4:26 PM

Leggett got what he deserved. His arrogance and refusal to change brought the baseball program to rock bottom. Thank you Monte Lee.

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After seven years...


Mar 14, 2017, 4:26 PM [ in reply to Keep him another year or two. ]

I think we already have a pretty good idea what's going to happen.

He's going to collect a couple of more $10,000 bonuses for making the NIT.

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Re: Keep him another year or two.


Mar 14, 2017, 5:20 PM [ in reply to Keep him another year or two. ]

Very logical thinking.

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Re: Keep him another year or two.


Mar 14, 2017, 5:21 PM [ in reply to Keep him another year or two. ]

Very logical thinking.

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If I'm the AD, I'm looking for a new coach.***


Mar 14, 2017, 4:24 PM



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Re: If I'm the AD, I'm looking for a new coach.***


Mar 14, 2017, 4:28 PM

Me too!

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if retained, i'll support BB till the end--- BUT


Mar 14, 2017, 4:25 PM

c'mon--

7 years after taking over an NCAAT program, and we've only been once, which was a play-in game in his first year...

I don't know what universe that is acceptable in, or in what universe it screams "come back for another"...


I like Brad, and I think he loves Clemson, but this program has steadily gone backward since he took over, and there is really NOTHING to dispute that or suggest otherwise

winning % - less than predecessors

NCAA bids - less

NIT bids - less

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wait...You think you're supporting Brad?***


Mar 14, 2017, 4:35 PM



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This is easy


Mar 14, 2017, 4:35 PM

He has to go for sure and here are the candidates in order:

1. Marshall
2.Jeff Caple
3. Archie Miller...although I think he is gone to NC State
4. Eric Musselman
5. Will Wade

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Marshal simply isn't a viable option, might as well say Brad


Mar 14, 2017, 4:38 PM

Stevens and Capel turned down the invitation to interview LAST go round...Your 3rd choice is a lock for State...That's some list

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Re: Marshal simply isn't a viable option, might as well say Brad


Mar 14, 2017, 4:44 PM

Stevens?

Well then go with Musselman of Nevada or Will wade. Why are those not viable options?

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Re: This is easy


Mar 14, 2017, 4:55 PM [ in reply to This is easy ]

No good coach is coming cheap. Make it an offer that they can't refuse.

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I have known Gregg Marshall for over 40 years...


Mar 14, 2017, 5:48 PM [ in reply to This is easy ]

and I can tell you the likelihood of him coming to Clemson is remote at best.

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Re: Simple poll with ownership. Should CBB stay or go AND


Mar 14, 2017, 5:29 PM

Go. Pursue Will Wade.

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Go-Wade, Hurley, Cooley, Kelsey***


Mar 14, 2017, 6:15 PM



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Regretfully, perhaps move on AND PURSUE Charles Barkley***


Mar 14, 2017, 6:21 PM



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Re: Regretfully, perhaps move on AND PURSUE Charles Barkley***


Mar 14, 2017, 7:15 PM

Smh

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Re: Regretfully, perhaps move on AND PURSUE Charles Barkley***


Mar 14, 2017, 7:21 PM [ in reply to Regretfully, perhaps move on AND PURSUE Charles Barkley*** ]

That's "turrible, just turrible".

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Re: Regretfully, perhaps move on AND PURSUE Charles Barkley***


Mar 14, 2017, 7:24 PM

Yep Ohson is just another board troll this place is infested with them right now.

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March 4th 2016- "Lee won't be here 4 years from today" - Viztiz


Stay


Mar 14, 2017, 7:27 PM

https://youtu.be/h--P8HzYZ74

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