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Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 2:28 PM

 
Steele goes on the defensive

Clemson defensive coordinator Kevin Steele came to Tuesday’s press conference with the media armed with a piece of paper and a sense of frustration. Full Story »


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somebody needs to***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:30 PM



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If you make 200K plus... you better do your job.


Nov 29, 2011, 2:55 PM

And be dannnng good at it.

We're your judge and don't forget that.

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Re: If you make 200K plus... you better do your job.


Nov 30, 2011, 8:50 AM

actually you are NOT the judge unless you pay him!!!!
don't forget that

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Ticket money, TV sets, ad revenue, IPTAY, we pay him


Nov 30, 2011, 8:57 AM

The customer is always the final judge.

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Interesting stuff....


Nov 29, 2011, 5:27 PM [ in reply to somebody needs to*** ]

good luck Saturday, Coach.

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News flash...


Nov 29, 2011, 9:15 PM

We got dominated by a second string QB and a second string RB on Saturday. How bad would this defensive performance been if USC had their best two offensive players still playing? Terrible!

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Re: News flash...


Nov 29, 2011, 9:50 PM

5th string RB... But I get what Steele is saying. And it's obvious that he's speaking the truth. That's why the option ate us up this year... players not doing their jobs. They don't trust their teammates to do their job, so they leave their own assignments to "do it for them."

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Re: News flash...


Nov 30, 2011, 8:51 AM [ in reply to News flash... ]

if Stephen Garcia was playing that would have helped us. He seemed to have a habit of throwing to the wrong colored jersey anyway. The 2nd string QB seemed to be much smarter.

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Re: News flash...


Nov 30, 2011, 12:39 PM [ in reply to News flash... ]

I probably make a quarter of the salary he makes working on a job which is much more dangerous (electrical) and I am requireed to uphold much higher standards and requirements in what I do (services to our veterans) and this moron has the audacity to diminish the facts about his product??? What an idiot!!! If my product was as bad as his (especially if I got paid his salary) I would be fired! If my scheme of doing things was as bad as his I would get myself or someone else killed!!! Plus, even with him trying to spin the facts of this equation to benefit his argument, 3.4 yards per carry still allows the opponent a first down EVERY time they have the ball! Sound like stupid logic to me-- flawed in every sense of the word!

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Re: News flash...


Nov 30, 2011, 1:03 PM

Consider the fact that you work with standardized facts, governed by physics, laws of nature, and codes. He on the otherhand, has to work with at least 11 young men, ranging in age from 18-23, trying to play as a unit without human error. It is obvious watching the games that some of those young men are not doing what they should be, but what they suddenly see as a better act, and then the whole process implodes.

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Chicken-Killin I hate them dirt pecking birds (except on a plate...)


Ugh


Nov 29, 2011, 2:31 PM

He pulled the "world's so negative" card.

Somewhere Danny Ford is rolling over in his...hay.

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Dabo played it in his press conference too!***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:44 PM



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Oh no, Steele's pulling out the Chewbacca defense again.***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:31 PM

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Chewbacca defense. sheesh ;-)***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:33 PM



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derp***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:37 PM



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I hear he's a wookie****


Nov 29, 2011, 3:54 PM [ in reply to Oh no, Steele's pulling out the Chewbacca defense again.*** ]



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Look at the monkey! Look at the silly monkey!


Nov 29, 2011, 4:05 PM [ in reply to Oh no, Steele's pulling out the Chewbacca defense again.*** ]

Head explodes

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at least he's good at one kind of defense


Nov 29, 2011, 2:31 PM

BOOM, ridiculed.

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LOL - it's the exact speech we thought we'd get


Nov 29, 2011, 2:33 PM

Someone even made up a mock-up of what his comments would look like earlier this week and it's almost 100% accurate.

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Did you just say you knew exactly what he was going to say


Nov 29, 2011, 3:53 PM

and he didn't surprise you yet you still couldn't stop him.

Somehow that sounds familiar.

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Hey Kevin. You should get together wih Guz Malzahn's wife.


Nov 29, 2011, 2:35 PM

Your both bat$hit crazy.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 2:35 PM

these lame excuses are why he should be fired. Ok, answer this question: "Why can't you stop a QB from running?"

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OccupySteele?***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:36 PM



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when we win, only one stat matters, so


Nov 29, 2011, 2:37 PM

here's a stat for you Steele: last two games 0-2.

with 71 points scored against you. 23 min with the ball in either game.

Some teams play for 'a' championship, others play for THE Championship. Pretty clear what your goals have been.

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“poor kids are just as bright and just as talented as white kids.”


It's time to go Mr. Steele


Nov 29, 2011, 2:40 PM

you have outworn your welcome.

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Ok, so we have the right D called, but guys don't make plays


Nov 29, 2011, 2:41 PM

That's fine. That means thye calls are good but the play sucks - we can pretty much see that.

The end result (losing) is the same as if we had the wrong D.

The end result (losing) is the same as if we had not actually practiced all week against it.

The end result is the same - the same guys (coaches and players) have to do something different to fix it no matter what the the cause was.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 2:43 PM

(3.4 yards per carry) x 3 downs = 10.2 yards AKA a first down.

You cant win that way.

I like coach steele but that is a very Bowden-esque thing to say.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 2:53 PM

I wonder if he can even add. That is first downs all day long. Also a clock killer.

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And that 3.4 doesn't include the QB scrambles which usually


Nov 29, 2011, 2:59 PM [ in reply to Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive ]

were 3rd down conversions and big gains. You don't get the def off the field.

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Re: And that 3.4 doesn't include the QB scrambles which usually


Nov 29, 2011, 3:11 PM

Wonder how this spin would apply to the GT game - Especlaiiy that last 4th qtr drive where their offense ate up 7+ minutes of the clock RUNNING THE FOOTBALL????

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3.4 yards per carry


Nov 29, 2011, 4:13 PM [ in reply to Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive ]

When Steele said, "That's winning football," he must have been referring to the other team.

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Pack your stuff


Nov 29, 2011, 2:44 PM

Excuses have gotten old. Now I'm to blame because I expect my Clemson team to have a defense that can at least hold a mediocre team to under 30 points.

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Oh my gosh, we're in more trouble than I thought. Allowing


Nov 29, 2011, 2:48 PM

yards is allowing yards period. And we allowed 400 plus yards. Is he seriously trying to say that the defense played ok Saturday night. If he really believes that, we are in serious trouble with a capital T.

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Against a mediocre offense, no less!!!***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:53 PM



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You're on crack if you think that was a mediocre offense.***


Nov 29, 2011, 4:22 PM



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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


Re: You're on crack if you think that was a mediocre offense.***


Nov 29, 2011, 4:28 PM

I'm on crack then!
East Carolina W56-37
Georgia W45-42 (21 by Defense)
Navy W24-21
Vanderbilt W21-3
Auburn L16-13
Kentucky W54-3
Mississippi State W14-12
Tennessee W14-3
#7 Arkansas L44-28
Florida W17-12
Citadel W41-20
#17 ClemsonW34-13
They really kicked some #### against ECU, Kent and the Citadel HUH moron!

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Dude, they lost a starting back and a starting QB mid-season


Nov 30, 2011, 9:06 AM

And now they are better off. They had their best offensive performance against Clemson, but wht may have looked mediocre early in the year wasn't mediocre on Saturday night. You must have watched a different game than what I saw Saturday night.

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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


Youre right, its worst than mediocre***


Nov 29, 2011, 4:53 PM [ in reply to You're on crack if you think that was a mediocre offense.*** ]



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Really dude? Their 14 pt scoring O is more than mediocre?***


Nov 29, 2011, 5:04 PM [ in reply to You're on crack if you think that was a mediocre offense.*** ]



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Yes. The only mediocre offense that has beat us this year


Nov 30, 2011, 9:08 AM

is maybe NCSU. We looked bad in that game. Saturday night, Conner Shaw just made some great plays against us and Miles etc. came to play. They were not mediocre.

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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


We made them better than mediocre


Nov 30, 2011, 9:10 AM

because they've looked like dog every other game this year on that side of the ball.

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No, Conner is a much better QB than Garcia and has just


Nov 30, 2011, 4:11 PM

needed some gametime experience. They are much better now than earlier in the year.

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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


Re: Oh my gosh, we're in more trouble than I thought. Allowing


Nov 29, 2011, 3:23 PM [ in reply to Oh my gosh, we're in more trouble than I thought. Allowing ]

He is a defensive defensive coordinator.

D2O.

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I dont care if its a called run or a called pass where the


Nov 29, 2011, 2:48 PM

QB scrambles. Its still them running the football down our throats. He acts like those QB scramble yards and TD's dont count?? What a loser. He's so defensive because he knows his job is on the line. He's about to get fired!!!!

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The Scooby Doo Defense, oh no he didn't....


Nov 29, 2011, 2:49 PM

....Rah don't know....

...Like, Yikes!, Scooby, it's the Coot QB, and he's running the ball--------AGAIN!....



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joke of the day***


Nov 29, 2011, 6:42 PM



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So basically if anyone sends receivers out, and then the


Nov 29, 2011, 2:50 PM

qb decides to pull it down and run, we're screwed. That's all it takes to have an unstoppable offense. Why isn't that everyone's offense every Saturday? Heck, why don't we do that?

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nobody else plays D like us!!!***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:56 PM



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Re: So basically if anyone sends receivers out, and then the


Nov 29, 2011, 2:57 PM [ in reply to So basically if anyone sends receivers out, and then the ]

Logan Thomas is good at pulling the ball down and running and he's bigger and harder to stop than the USC second string QB.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 2:52 PM

This makes me so mad, just like in any job (especially well-paying jobs) you better do your job or get fired. ENOUGH EXCUSES!

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The thing that bothers me the most...


Nov 29, 2011, 2:52 PM

He manipulates the stats to his advantage for accounting for the run D and he basically calls guys out for mistakes--->

"...The first one, a 34-yard scramble, it was a guy who has played a lot of football. He was lined up in the B-gap, and for whatever reason he goes inside and loses his rush lane. The next one was we had a 13-yarder, a young guy in the secondary who is supposed to come off the edge and blitz...."
Not real hard to go back and find out whom he is talking about!!!

Way to coach them up, it's their fault so let the media know that it's definitely not your fault!!! Helloooo McFlyyyy!!!

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Re: The thing that bothers me the most...


Nov 29, 2011, 3:14 PM

I guess that is how he gets the players ready for the all important Championship game.

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Hope it works, cause not much else is on D lately!***


Nov 29, 2011, 3:21 PM



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Steele is wrong in this one too


Nov 30, 2011, 9:09 AM [ in reply to The thing that bothers me the most... ]

We haven't had anyone from the secondary blitz all freakin year long.

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What a load of crap - Steele is passing the buck - BYE!!!***


Nov 29, 2011, 2:52 PM



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A Tiger man needs no introduction...


So sick of hearing about the loss of Bowers, Gilchrist,


Nov 29, 2011, 2:55 PM

and McDaniel. Yes they were good, yes they are big losses, but there should be no amount of loss in personell that would lead a program like Clemson to be one of the worst defenses in the country.

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"I'm in a submarine..."


Nov 29, 2011, 2:56 PM

Are you kidding me? Has he lost it?

Fact of the matter is that the defense did NOT play winning football. Sorry, they just didn't.

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Ok, it is now officially a circus. And did he ever think for


Nov 29, 2011, 3:01 PM

a second that people complain about the water meter because it is broken, or they're getting overbilled. Or they're complaining about things because if they don't get fixed it is hurting them financially, something he $750,000 a year doesn't have to worry about.

Or does he consider that people complain about the defense because it sucks and the coordinator sucks. And they don't have the luxury to be in a hole or submarine all day drawing $750,000 for not getting the job done.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 3:03 PM

ANYONE can get stats to say what they want them to say.
That's an old Tommy Bowden trick.
But anyone can watch our football team and realize our defense stinks.

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Stat trickeration pre-date Bowden by a lotta years!!!***


Nov 29, 2011, 3:19 PM



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Re: Stat trickeration pre-date Bowden by a lotta years!!!***


Nov 29, 2011, 5:17 PM

Maybe but it hit its zenith with Bowden.
Dabo said he was going to change things, but he hasn't.
Let's spew out stats to make ourselves look good.

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I gotcha! just checking...***


Nov 29, 2011, 6:51 PM



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Um.. this press conference was a bad idea for Steele


Nov 29, 2011, 3:07 PM

Much like a Presidential candidate right before he/she drops out.

How could anyone think this was a good idea for Steele to say these things?

What a mess.

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I agree 1000%, better to shut the h311 up!***


Nov 29, 2011, 3:22 PM



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One thing I see


Nov 29, 2011, 3:09 PM

He stated that last years team with Bowers, Jenkins and the rest of them were better at doing their job, but we still got beat.

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Re: One thing I see


Nov 29, 2011, 3:15 PM

We lost more games last year with those players - how could that be an excuse???

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Parker was a lot of that, but...Point served!***


Nov 29, 2011, 3:23 PM [ in reply to One thing I see ]



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NEGATIVITY AT ITS WORST -> LOSING 3 OUT OF 4 TO END THE


Nov 29, 2011, 3:17 PM

NEGATIVITY AT ITS WORST -> LOSING 3 OUT OF 4 TO END THE REGULAR SEASON

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way to throw the kids under the bus...


Nov 29, 2011, 3:17 PM

Fire this clown.

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Ownership?


Nov 29, 2011, 3:20 PM

Knew he could be comical, but never knew he had rainbow farts like Tammy. What's wrong with saying "We got whipped" ??

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What a loser!!! How many more excuses can he come up with??***


Nov 29, 2011, 3:21 PM



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Re: What a loser!!! How many more excuses can he come up with??***


Nov 29, 2011, 3:25 PM

It doesn't matter how many he can find, he's lost the confidence of the fans and I believe the players as well! How many times do you throw the boys under the bus before they realize they are the scapegoats!?!?!?

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This from an earlier post of mine:


Nov 29, 2011, 3:24 PM

In the Wofford, Maryland, Georgia Tech, and USuC games, the QUARTERBACKS combined for a total of 534 rushing yards against Clemson in only those four games. If you calculate that to a full twelve game season, those same QUARTERBACKS would have run for over 1600 yards against Kevin Steele's defense. Who was the last quarterback to run for over 1600 yards in FBS/Division I?

Kevin, you're not earning your money. It's not the player's effort, it's YOUR scheme.

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www.FireKevinSteele.com


Nov 29, 2011, 3:25 PM

Better scoop that domain name up quick, it ain't gonna last long...

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Re: www.FireKevinSteele.com


Nov 29, 2011, 3:42 PM

Time to go KS!!

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Here it is!!!! http://www.firekevinsteele.com/


Nov 29, 2011, 3:54 PM [ in reply to www.FireKevinSteele.com ]

someone needs to set up a forum or chat room on that page

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Dabo needs to get Everette Whithers on speed dial


Nov 29, 2011, 11:49 PM

Right after Logan Thomas and David Wilson shred our sorry defense to pieces.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 3:27 PM

You make us negative Mr.Steele! Do what you are so highly paid to do.

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Get this looser away from this football first thing Sunday


Nov 29, 2011, 3:30 PM

morning Dabo. Thanks!

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I predict that this guy is on short time.


Nov 29, 2011, 3:33 PM

Anyone making his sort of pay to produce a competitive defense trying to twist stats to defend his position is just stupid.

Does he really think the QB scrambling out of a pass play is a new phenomenon in college football?

Does he really think he should not be held accountable for defending rush yards that result from a pass play??

Wow.

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TRANSLATION: I Don't have a Friggin Clue How to "Fix It"


Nov 29, 2011, 3:35 PM

I have heard enough right there. When he starts rationalized with BS stats then he is clueless. Bottom line is you failed to coached these guys how to hand a mobile QB.......



Period.

GTFO

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The Artist Formerly Known as "The FIGHTINGDABOS"


is he a DC or a statistician???******


Nov 29, 2011, 3:48 PM



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You gotta be kidding me Kevin


Nov 29, 2011, 3:50 PM

I've supported Steele the whole time he's been here, but he just threw the kids under the bus. Really?

Maybe they're messing up because they don't know what to do, because your defense BLOWS.

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Re: You gotta be kidding me Kevin


Nov 29, 2011, 3:53 PM

We scored 1 TD in the last two games. We could just as easily blame Chad Morris.

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Morris isn't in charge of the O-line.


Nov 29, 2011, 3:56 PM

We can't run an offense with a terrible line.

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Hey Steele. THEY are confused because


Nov 29, 2011, 4:04 PM

YOUR defensive scheme STINKS!!!
I'VE got a 14 year NFL Defensive veteran living next door to me and in his opinion, YOUR tacking techniques are ineffective, YOUR schemes are too complicated and YOUR play calling is High School level at best. YOU are the reason our offense can't get in a rhythm and YOU are the reason we're 9-3 instead of 12-0. WE are tired of your excuses, Dillon Math and the under-development of these talented kids. YOU said it - YOU need to teach tackling better. YOU are why WE are embarrassed. YOU'VE had three years to do that. YOU have failed to do so. YOU need to go.

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Probably counterproductive for other than venting


Nov 29, 2011, 4:16 PM

Steele said "I don't answer the phone. I don't hear it. I'm in a submarine back there. I don't read the newspapers, so we're sheltered from it. We're in a hole. We don't know it. We know it's there, but we don't know it. But our kids, they're exposed to it."

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Kind of agree with the last part actually***


Nov 29, 2011, 4:12 PM



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This thread is a summary of every idiot that has ever graced


Nov 29, 2011, 4:15 PM

the boards of Tigernet.

Stupid soup right here.

The armchair idiots in full force today.

Sorry Coach Steele, but you're not going to be able to explain anything to these idiots. Just go get your players focused on VT and forget about USC and what the idiot 10%ers on Tigernet think.

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Very, Very Excited. Very, Very Proud.


For reel, our defence is awesum!!!******


Nov 29, 2011, 4:33 PM



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WOW !!!! you must be kidding...


Dec 2, 2011, 2:36 AM [ in reply to This thread is a summary of every idiot that has ever graced ]

obviously you don't understand a thing about responsibility. He has his hands DIRECTLY ON this situation and it is a disaster. Why would he even get into this?

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WELCOME TO TIGERVILLE RANDY SHANNON!!!!! ********


Nov 29, 2011, 4:15 PM



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People! It's about an underachieving offense and a D that


Nov 29, 2011, 4:17 PM

lost 4 players to the NFL. Steele looked pretty smart last year when he had more experience and talent to work with. Remember when everybody freaked out that he was going to go to Tennessee?! We know our D isn't great. Like last year, the O needs to put some points on the board. 13 isn't going to beat anyone.

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I do believe he got the 10% bashing from Dabo's rant


Nov 29, 2011, 4:18 PM

last year?

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When Dabo ranted 10%, the pumpers loved it. Steele? Hate it.***


Nov 29, 2011, 7:44 PM



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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 4:26 PM

Unfortunately...when Shaw kept the ball...it seemed all of his positive yards turned into big firstdowns and we did not get the big stop we needed. The 3.4 average does not mean squat if they run up 400 yards on you.

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Glad to hear...


Nov 29, 2011, 4:31 PM

..that he does'nt come to this website and subject himself to some of the mindless fodder on here.

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mindless fodder? Did you not understand what he


Nov 29, 2011, 4:36 PM

just did to his players?

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Re: Glad to hear...


Nov 29, 2011, 4:37 PM [ in reply to Glad to hear... ]

Amen!

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 4:31 PM

Everyone just needs to support him and everyone on the team this is the last thing we need to be doing

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 4:55 PM

Get in your submarine and leave!!! You made O'Cain look like a genius and OBC figured it out!!! Thankfully, Russell Wilson wasn't there or the ACC would be considering a mercy rule for this week! Oh wait Logan just scored again,but the receivers were covered.No they are blocking for the QB to run. Hopefully the offense can bail you out. I am sick to my stomach with the BS!

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Re: Great response. You said it all. Mark this down; we will


Nov 29, 2011, 4:38 PM

beat VT again.

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Haha. All of the first responders


Nov 29, 2011, 4:55 PM

to this article are exactly the blowhards that Steele is talking about.

A bunch of fools who will worship the coach when he has success and burn him at the stake when kids blow their assignments.

Salem witch trials, anyone?

I will gladly admit that our defense has looked bad the last 4 weeks, and our toughness has been challenged.

However, all of this "fire Steele" nonsense is pathetic.

The 18-20 year old men pour their hearts out for your entertainment. When they fail to entertain you, you call for their heads, players and coaches alike.

Sigh. Armchair QB's can't be pleased.

Don't quit your dayjob of recliner positioning coordination. The real world is too tough for ya.

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Re: Haha. All of the first responders


Nov 29, 2011, 5:03 PM

His comments deserve all of this and more. The players can't respond too him verbally, but I can. He has them out of position and too many times not ready for the snap.

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I kind of agree with you.


Nov 29, 2011, 5:07 PM [ in reply to Haha. All of the first responders ]

Defense has looked bad for well more than the last 4 weeks. Although I'm not ready to join the firing squad. We're having an off year on the D side of the ball. Most schools go through it at some point. I would be nice to get a complete game every now and then though. Seems like we've had struggles on at least one side of the ball the last couple of years

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Re: I kind of agree with you.


Nov 29, 2011, 5:17 PM

Agree...I think we are all frustrated based our early success. However, we have let too many big plays hurt us the past 4 games. Yes...I will be in Charlotte yelling and supporting our Tigers. I love them as much as everyone on this board. Just hard to stomach sometimes.

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So you're in favor of the DC throwing the players under the


Nov 29, 2011, 7:05 PM [ in reply to Haha. All of the first responders ]

bus? Because, that's what he did with this interview. I haven't called for him to be fired but look at his past 3 years and the points his D has given up! 2010 looks pretty good until you get to the coots and SFU! Argue with those stats, since he brought up stats!!!

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Re: So you're in favor of the DC throwing the players under the


Nov 29, 2011, 8:35 PM

Usc offense only really scored 14 on our d last year 17 came from turnovers

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Re: Haha. All of the first responders


Dec 2, 2011, 2:38 AM [ in reply to Haha. All of the first responders ]

that's how football works, idiot...GEEZ...another idiot poster

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Explain to me


Nov 29, 2011, 5:07 PM

how a "man" who's "shielded from the negativity" comes to a press conference with manipulated stats as a defensive mechanism? He's obviously aware of the displeasure of fans so where is he getting that info? From his players? I'm sorry but if our defensive guys are crying to their coach about negativity they have no business playing at this level.....but I find it hard to believe that's the case. The only other option is that he's lying and using "the kids" as a shield while talking about accountability! I'm not one of the "fire everybody after a loss" crowd but after reading this he needs to go! This is pathetic anf sounds more like a politician than a coach. He's a cancer to this program as well as to the "kids" he claims he's trying to protect!

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Exactly, I don't care if he stays or goes but fix it d*ammit***


Nov 29, 2011, 7:01 PM



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The true rushing stats


Nov 29, 2011, 5:13 PM

The true rushing stats are:
53 runs for 210 yards
Take the four kneeling plays out and its:
49 runs for 220 yards
Shaw ran the ball:
19 times for 107 yards
which includes 2 sacks for -16 yards
and also included runs of:
20,7,7,34,14,15,7,10,and 5 yards.

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i know sh!tty football when i see it.nice try KS***


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The rivalry has turned


Nov 29, 2011, 5:52 PM

this kind of coach jibberish proves it. Skewing #'s to have an argument. We used to do that at USC.

Three in a row. 34-13, 29-7, 34-17. Not even a close one.

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Re: The rivalry has turned


Nov 29, 2011, 6:08 PM

Not even competitive right now.

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Re: The rivalry has turned


Nov 29, 2011, 6:52 PM

like it's been the past thirty years...give me a break.

Ya'll have a good, nothing better than good, program right now. Spurrier has our number. I'm not worried because we still own you on and off the field.

Congratulations on the win and the "good" program you have. Enjoy it while it lasts.

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Re: The rivalry has turned


Nov 29, 2011, 7:31 PM

Not talking about 30 years ago - get over yourself. Now, the present, the last three years -- it isn't competitive right now. More people would watch nationally if Clemson could put up a fight.

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More people would care if Carolina had also put up more of


Nov 30, 2011, 11:00 AM

a fight historically. I'm a Gamecock fan, and this logic doesn't fly with me.

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There is MUCH more to this media session....I think


Nov 29, 2011, 6:15 PM

Coach Swinney has already given him his papers.
Steele is attempting to interview for his next job.

There is 0% chance he is retained. Thank God.

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Re: There is MUCH more to this media session....I think


Nov 29, 2011, 6:53 PM

I really hope you're right

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Levon he's talking about you too.


Nov 29, 2011, 7:52 PM

Levon Kirkland said it was hard to watch a team run the ball on Clemson's defense. Take all the people on here and let's say no one here has played a down of football and the only one saying it's hard to watch is an ex Clemson lb who happens to be a former all pro. Is he wrong too. I think not. You can dismiss us fans, but not Levon.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 7:20 PM

Wow, there are a lot of comments on this story

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Tough crowd! Steele is lucky they don't have depth-charges!***


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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 7:57 PM

You know, this site isn't even about Clemson football. It's about the psychology of anonymity. I don't see why any kid would come to Clemson with this crap bubbling up 24-7. It's even stranger that such sewage actually has an influence on people's lives.

Dabo's been here two complete years, and he's 9-3 now with a great crop of recruits in waiting, one of the best receivers ever anywhere, and all I see is chickensht anonymous "get rid of him" crap. Get rid of Steele, get rid of Dabo. How about get rid of Morris since the offense sucks these last three games too? FIRE EM ALL. What else?

Good thing Beamer got through year six of his contract so he could live on to become the only ACC coach with a consistent winner. Maybe VT is the only place six mediocre years for a promising coach is possible. So who ya gonna hire when Dabo's gone? You think Meyer or Saban is going to take some of this? I'm done. Enough Tigernet. You folks are out of your minds. See ya at the BCS in two years, when Dabo's teams have matured more than the posters here will have.

Go ahead. Jump on this. The cursor's blinking. You're alone again with your computer. What are you waiting for?

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Who let Koenning go & hired Steele? No outrage at Dabo?


Nov 29, 2011, 8:09 PM

In scoring defense Clemson ranked:
2011: #65 (Steele)
2010: #13 (Steele)
2009: #25 (Steele)
2008: #13 (Koenning)
2007: #10 (Koenning)
2006: #16 (Koenning)
2005: #11 (Koenning)

Maybe Dabo should have used his people & management skills to smooth over any personality issues and keep Koenning. Imagine if Dabo had kept Koenning and hired a good OC (like Malzahn) in 2009 with all that NFL talent on both sides of the ball. Wow!

Dabo really screwed up by letting Koenning go and hiring Napier to be OC. Oh well... that's what you get from a newbie.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 8:36 PM

its like this they have played 12 games and being nice to them hasnt worked.so i think holding people accountable for a change may work

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 29, 2011, 8:41 PM

"Hey - we know what is wrong and will fix it!"
Hasn't that been the response every week since the Troy game??

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Dabo limited tackling in practice, against Steele's wishes.


Nov 29, 2011, 8:54 PM

If you read the following interview with Steele back in September, he said that he wanted to have more live tackling because his players' fundamentals are bad, but Dabo won't let him. Yet everybody blames Steele, not Dabo.

http://www.orangeandwhite.com/news/2011/sep/13/kevin-steele-attacking-tigers-tackling-issues/?print=1

I heard that the senior leadership council went to Dabo and said that they didn't want so much tackling at practices, and Dabo agreed, like a pal. I'll bet Saban would have dismissed the players for even asking.

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What the fudgesicle!


Nov 29, 2011, 9:23 PM

Excuse me. Let me read this again because I do not see, nor read, where Steele says Dabo did it.
FROM THE ARTICLE
"Complicating the matter is the fact that Clemson doesn’t tackle much live in practice. The Tigers have a tackling circuit every Tuesday, but as Steele noted, getting the Mike Bellamys of the world hurt wouldn’t be acceptable, just as it wouldn’t be acceptable if Brandon Thompson or Quandon Christian was injured in practice in a tackling-related drill.

Even in spring practice, tackling is limited; when Steele played for Majors, spring practice was unlimited. Now, the NCAA allows 15 practices, three of which are spent in shorts with limited padding.
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So is that strange perverse deductive reasoning you are wielding?

Like I saw a duck. I did not see a Tiger. So the Duck ate the Tiger.

Why not just write... "I hate Dabo and I want him gone."

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Hey sadmba, Razz has no regard for reality


Nov 29, 2011, 10:50 PM

I'm starting to think he's a little retar--- um, can't say that can I? Ok, a little challenged? Yeah that's it. Challenged. And probably lives in his mother's basement. But that's just a personal opinion based on his reptitive rants. I've never seen anyone say the same thing so many ways, so often. Maybe his mommy has promised him an extra glass of chocolate milk before nite-nite everytime he finds a new way to say the same thing about Dabo. And I'm sure while running his paper route, he involuntarily shouts "THAT's how you throw a pass Dabo" with every fling of the daily rag. Of course, that's only the image I'VE come up with in my head... I'm sure there are many more, possibly even more accurate, yet just as disturbing, impressions of him than mine on this board.

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I've never posted about tackling, so how is it repetitive?


Nov 29, 2011, 11:44 PM

I pointed to a September Steele interview and I made a point about Dabo thwarting Steele on tackling in practice-- something I've NEVER posted about before. Yet you say I'm repetitive... and say I have no regard for reality? That's funny.

If you have an intelligent, adult counterpoint to my post about tackling at practice, I'd be interested to hear it. Your rant was extremely juvenile. You're better than that.

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You could tie Dabo to the Kennedy assassination in less than


Nov 30, 2011, 12:07 AM

2 steps...You are a broken record about Dabo...We get it...You think it was a bad hire and all bad decisions trace back to him or his hiring...Including your finding fault in him not "ironing things out" with VK... Vic openly mocked Dabo and questioned the decision by the AD to not make him interim HC because of his HC experience at FREAKIN Wyoming(5-29)...He was clueless...and his fate was on him...

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You can't intelligently address my new point about tackling?


Nov 30, 2011, 1:42 AM

The pumpers here make the same old pro-Dabo comments over and over and over, yet I never see you call any of them a broken record. But if I raise completely new point abut Dabo that I've never mentioned before, you comment that I'm a broken record. I think that says more about you than about me.

You failed to comment on my point about tackling.

Vic walked into Dabo's office on the day Dabo was made interim coach and asked if Dabo would retain him after the season if Dabo remained head coach. Dabo said no. Then a doubly jilted Koenning (unprofessionally, but understandably) complained about TDP choosing Dabo. After Dabo was appointed interim coach, he could have gone to Vic and told him that he's a great DC and that Dabo could really use Vic's help. But Dabo didn't like Vic. It was personal, not business.

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All of your posts are Blame Dabo posts...Why should I


Nov 30, 2011, 12:52 PM

respond to your new comments when they all boil down to the same ONE note...And as far as VK goes, Vic openly mocked Dabo when they were on Bowden's staff and thought he should have been named Interim HC...That is why he wasn't retained...Because he was openly defiant...

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Why respond at all if you have no intelligent counterpoint?


Nov 30, 2011, 5:49 PM

You complain that you shouldn't have to respond with any kind of intelligent counterpoint, so instead you take the time to respond with the same old, repetitive comment about me being repetitive-- even though I made a completely new point that I've never made. That's funny.

Were you in the meeting when Vic was openly mocked Dabo? How do you know that's true?

Even if it's true, have you never butted heads with coworker peers and then smoothed things over when you got promoted to be their boss, and they were understandably hurt and jealous? I have a few times. That's what good managers do.

Bottom line is Dabo let Koenning go.
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2008/dec/02/clemsons_swinney_dismisses_defensive_coordinator_k/

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Where you in the meeting room when Steele said Dabo won't


Nov 30, 2011, 6:26 PM

let them tackle?

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No. But unlike you I backed my claim with an interview link.


Nov 30, 2011, 7:14 PM

The issue about Dabo agreeing to the "Senior Leadership Council's" request to limit tackling in practice was reported on SBNation.com earlier this season from sources inside the team. Feel free to dig it up.

I provided a link to an article backing my claim that Dabo fired Koenning.

You provided no substantiation for your claim that Vic openly mocked Dabo. I'm not denying that it's true. But it's ironic that you deny my supported claims while making your own unsubstantiated claims.

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Why should I need an intelligent counterpoint if all you do


Nov 30, 2011, 6:33 PM [ in reply to Why respond at all if you have no intelligent counterpoint? ]

is find ways to blame Dabo? Come up with an intelligent point and not a fingerpoint if you want an intelligent response...If you just keep harping that ONE NOTE, all I have to do is call you a broken record....All faults lead to Dabo...We get it...We don't even have to click on your post anymore...We see Raz and know what it is going to say no matter the topic...Global warming- Dabo is melting the ice caps...The Economy-Dabo didn't regulate Wallstreet...The Envirnment-Dabo is poisoning our drinking water...Get the picture?

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Bummer for you. Here's proof that you're wrong...


Nov 30, 2011, 7:46 PM

Not everything I post blames Dabo. In fact, here are two recent posts where I gave kudos to Dabo.
http://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=1&threadID=1038712&messageID=11428397#11428397

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=1&threadID=1026572&messageID=11300706#11300706

Here are some recent posts about the O-line which have nothing to do with Dabo:
http://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=1&threadID=1043995&messageID=11478504#11478504

http://www.tigernet.com/forums/thread.jspa?forumID=1&threadID=1043995&messageID=11478233#11478233

If I post something that's not a critique of Dabo, that's fine with you. If I post a critique of Dabo, then apparently to you, it's unfounded or shouldn't be mentioned. If others post repetitive praise of Dabo, you never complain. Your idoltry of Dabo is showing.

I often provide data, links, examples, and logic to support my points. You make excuses for why you shouldn't have to make an intelligent counterpoint and then you make up silly hyperbole about global warming, etc. It's like arguing with a toddler.

You wrote: We don't even have to click on your post anymore.

Great! Please don't!

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Think about what Steele said. Who is stopping Steele?


Nov 29, 2011, 11:22 PM [ in reply to What the fudgesicle! ]

What do you expect Steele to say? "I want more live tackling practice but Dabo won't let me, and that's why we stink at tackling?" That would be career suicide. Read what Steele said and read between the lines.

Those old-school methods are long gone; as Steele put it, “if we returned to the Junction Boys – which we could’ve done before now – it wouldn’t be an issue. I’d probably be in jail, because they don’t let you coach like that no more....

I’m old enough to know and old-school enough to know that if we do it a certain way, and it doesn’t work, I know the old way works.


Hmmm.... What old way is he talking about?

Steele said he has known for some time that tackling would be an issue, but didn’t elaborate.

“ I saw it coming, OK? I saw it coming,” he said. “Just leave it at that. I saw it coming.


Hmmm.... I wonder why he didn't want to elaborate.

The problem, he says, is correctable and simple.
What’s the fix? Repetition.

Or, as Steele said it, “repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition.”


Hmmm... I wonder what he means by repitition. Tackling perhaps?

Complicating the matter is the fact that Clemson doesn’t tackle much live in practice. The Tigers have a tackling circuit every Tuesday, but as Steele noted, getting the Mike Bellamys of the world hurt wouldn’t be acceptable, [Then just to be diplomatic, Steele adds] just as it wouldn’t be acceptable if Brandon Thompson or Quandon Christian was injured in practice in a tackling-related drill.

Hmmm... Obviously based on what Steele said earlier, he would like to do live tackling. So who wouldn't find it acceptable and who won't let him do it?

It frustrates you every single day in practice,” he said. “But you don’t go live in practice. People would be shocked. People don’t tackle in practice any more. Don’t go to the ground. Yeah, they step on their toes and wrap up, but stepping on their toes and wrapping up a guy you’re not carrying to the ground is different than carrying a guy to the ground.”

Hmmm... He wants to practice full tackling but he's frustrated that he can't. I wonder who is stopping him?

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Or they don't ask because a lot of live tackling is stupid


Nov 29, 2011, 9:27 PM [ in reply to Dabo limited tackling in practice, against Steele's wishes. ]

They wrap up and thud up, but not to the ground. That's when people get hurt. Done at just about EVERY school, Georgia Tech is the only one I know of off hand that goes to the ground.

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UGA-GT game announcers said UGA practiced live all week.


Nov 30, 2011, 1:53 AM

They said that UGA let the scout team cut-block the 2-deep offense all week and did full tackling all week.

I'm not saying that teams tackle all week every week or that Clemson should. But if the DC thinks that the tackling stinks, then the DC should be able to practice (brush up on) tackling until the players tackle well-- even at the risk of injury.

If Dabo stops Steele from practicing tackling, then it's crazy for people to blame Steele rather than blaming Dabo.

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The reason no one takes you seriously...


Nov 30, 2011, 3:34 PM

....is because you say things that aren't true. You said that Dabo won't let Steele. next time, be 100% forthcoming and say, "I beleive dabo must not be letting Steele practice..." THAT is how you achieve credibility. But your constant repetitive mantras against Dabo mean nothing when you revert to this unsubstantiated crap.

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The reason that you think you speak for everyone is...


Nov 30, 2011, 6:48 PM

... (by definition) arrogance.

The reason that you ignore what Steele said in his interview is... hard to imagine.

According to you I should put "I believe..." in front of every post, even though you don't, and even though you never say that about any of the tens of thousands of repetitive pumper opinions posted here. Maybe you should have written, "The reason why I believe no one takes you seriously is..."

Nice hypocracy. You're grasping at straws. Too funny.

No one takes me seriously? Here's a comment to the previous article that I posted on.
http://www.tigernet.com/forums/message.jspa?messageID=11538813

Ouch! Maybe you don't speak for everyone?

I substantiated my point by providing a link to the Steele's own words. You ignore that and post unsubstantiated opinions as though it's gospel. How ironic.

Here are some articles from some guys who seem to know far more about football than you, and have connections inside the team. Note the recurring theme on tackling.

http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2011/10/30/2524518/clemson-gt-sunday-thoughts

http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2011/11/28/2594713/what-is-the-root-problem-with-clemson#storyjump

http://www.shakinthesouthland.com/2011/11/20/2576598/charmin-ultra-tigers-bring-back-bowden-memories

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You can make stats say anything you


Nov 29, 2011, 9:24 PM

want to. Leave something out - say quarterback rushes. Add something in - say sacks. And throw out the "Chunk Plays" as Steele has for every game this year.

And there you go. With that defense, you should be undefeated.

Almost sounded like Coot logic!

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Re: You can make stats say anything you


Nov 30, 2011, 12:41 AM

Winner

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Re: You can make stats say anything you


Nov 30, 2011, 9:20 AM [ in reply to You can make stats say anything you ]

I believe it was Harry Truman who said, "there are lies, there are ###### lies, and there are statistics", meaning statistics could be used as the biggest ruse of all. Based on what I watched the other night, I'd say the latter might be the case here, as well. Give'm hell Harry, uh, Kevin!

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1-3 = a negative alright***


Nov 29, 2011, 10:24 PM



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Who gave him the piece of paper... Bowden?***


Nov 29, 2011, 11:26 PM



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It's game 12 coach...


Nov 29, 2011, 11:34 PM

Troy did it.
Wofford did it.
Maryland did it.
Georgia Tech did it.
And now SC did it.

This isn't new coach.

If we are stuck with Dabo, I expect him to "fix it."

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Here is the rest of the story!


Nov 30, 2011, 3:36 AM

-many of shaw's runs were read-option, not scrambles

-yds/carry Is higher if you take out the sacks

-we had 10 lost team rushing yards on last 3 plays running out the clock

-we were playing with 2 freshman OL and one true soph OL most of the game

- we were playing mainly with our 4th best RB

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Re: Here is the rest of the story!


Nov 30, 2011, 6:03 AM

Creative accounting

Kevin Steele brought a number of statistical printouts to his Tuesday meeting with the press, saying his run defense was not as poor as the final stat totals suggested Saturday at South Carolina.

Steele said eliminate the 76 rushing yards on seven quarterback scrambles by Connor Shaw and his defense only allowed 3.4 yards per carry.

"That's winning football in anybody's book," Steele said.


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I didn't realize that the QB was only allowed to scramble


Nov 30, 2011, 8:55 AM

uh Kevin...the QB is allowed to run whenever he wants. Those can still be called runs. Maybe we should get the other team to signal when the QB is going to run to make your job easier.

And while we are in the process of educating you on the rules of football....the running back can still be one of those guys that catches the ball out of the backfield. We call those "eligible receivers." The last man on the line of scrimmage (thats where the players line up near the ball) and the players in the backfield can all have the ball thrown to them. You might want to actually cover them, especially that guy that sometimes runs it and sometimes catches it.


This presser is the last straw in my defense of Kevin Steele. Lies, #### lies and statistics. I was there. They steamrolled us. They got 4 or 5 yards whenever they wanted to. He's gotta go.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 30, 2011, 8:58 AM

Whew! I feel all better now. When I saw the game, I thought we got our butts whipped pretty bad, but what I really saw was winning football. We just had a couple of things we didn't do very well, but everything else was winning football. I guess I saw an incorrect score at the end of the game, too. I need my glasses adjusted.

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Did he add back the 17 yards that Shaw lost in the victory..


Nov 30, 2011, 9:20 AM

formation at the end of the game?

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Steele needs to stop throwing the players under the bus in


Nov 30, 2011, 9:35 AM

his pressers. I don't like it in any shape or form, but especially not when he actually calls them out by name (like Willard).

12 games into the season who is really to blame for these guys constantly being out of position and making "simple" mistakes?

The coaches.

It's not like we are just blowing a handful of assignments each game... it's like 15% of the snaps.

Get your act together Steele, this is your fault.

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Did anyone mention to Kevin


Nov 30, 2011, 9:40 AM

that 3.4 ypc is indeed winning football...for the OFFENSE. 3.4 per carry x 3 downs = 10.2 yards.

So, along with not being able to stop the run, he can't do simple arithmetic? Sheesh.

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Re: Steele needs to stop throwing the players under the bus in


Nov 30, 2011, 9:44 AM [ in reply to Steele needs to stop throwing the players under the bus in ]

Is it ever the players fault? No, it is the coaches who put the uniforms on, go out on the field and execute, not the players. Never ever blame the players, it is always the coaches fault. Not defending Steele, but the players have to share some of the responsibility.

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Holy crap what a load of ####. He should be fired just for


Nov 30, 2011, 9:50 AM

that.

"Winning defense" is zero points on the board. Anything more than that means there is room for improvement. When there are more points on the other guy's side of the board that yours, that is LOSING FOOTBALL.

Good lowered I hope no one there bought the load of #### he was selling.

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 30, 2011, 11:56 AM

BS!!!!!! I think Chad is leaving and it leaked to the players. I have never seen a team just look so down when they were winning. If so maybe Kevin can talk Chad into taking him with him!!!!

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"That's winning football...."


Nov 30, 2011, 12:13 PM

Yea, except when you get your ### handed to you 34-13

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Nov 30, 2011, 12:48 PM

Whether designed runs, scrambles or draw play, Shaw was the leading rusher with 107 yards. Call it what you want, but he was running and if you can't figure out how to stop the QB from running GAME AFTER GAME AFTER GAME, then you need to pack your bags.

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Re: They have forgotten how to TACKLE!


Nov 30, 2011, 1:07 PM

Way too many spins off of attempts are arm tackling. Also, each time I watch I see players running downfield with the ball carrier trying to strip the ball, giving up many more yards.

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Chicken-Killin I hate them dirt pecking birds (except on a plate...)


Kevin "Warlock" Steele has Tiger Blood


Nov 30, 2011, 1:18 PM

and Adonis DNA.

He's #winning.

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We can fuss and argue amongst ourselves all we want but


Nov 30, 2011, 3:14 PM

what is the true root cause of our problems? Poor tackling in the games are a symptom of the true root cause. I have always heard that you play the way you practice. If we dont practice at full speed why would we think we would play any better in a game.

Is it poor coaching on technique, players dont want to hit, lack of skill, lack of strength & conditioning etc.??

Look at the top programs and what do you see? Big, fast, strong guys that are dying to hit and pound you in the ground (LSU, Bama etc). What do the pretenders look like? Oregon!

If you dont think VT will be ready to play like LSU and Bama on Saturday, then you are not in touch with reality. They realize what we cost them in that loss and tthey want to own us in this game and continue as top turkey in the conference.
I am an optimist but not a pumper as there is no silver lining in this mess of the last 20 yrs. I am not hater either. I want our players and coaches to succeed and win but until we start practicing and playing tough football, we will not have a tough winning football team. Simple as that.

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Ohio State's D coordinator may be looking for work.


Nov 30, 2011, 3:32 PM

Ohio State's D coordinator may be looking for work with Urban Meyer coming in. Also Jack Del Rio just got fired by Jacksonville. I bet he can instill some toughness back in our defense

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Serves You Right For Hiring the Fraud


Dec 1, 2011, 2:44 PM

It seems Clemson fans are just now figuring out what Baylor fans have known for nearly a decade: Kevin Steal (misspelling intended) is a joke of a coach. The man is absolutely awful and there's a reason he's bounced from school to school. Next, he'll be telling you all about the defense's "internal improvements" and that they're about to break through. I love the line about being held accountable right after he throws specific players under the bus. Classic Steal, right there.

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Re: Serves You Right For Hiring the Fraud


Dec 1, 2011, 2:45 PM

You do have my sympathies though. I wouldn't wish the man on anyone...except the Texas A&M Aggies, that is.

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Take off the QB runs???


Dec 1, 2011, 2:56 PM

H@ll Steele, take off 22 points and we win!

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Re: Front Page Story: Steele goes on the defensive


Dec 2, 2011, 1:06 AM

Fire him

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Oooh can i be the next to say


Dec 2, 2011, 1:23 AM

Phuleeez

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Steele using "coot logic" when presenting stats of the game


Dec 2, 2011, 2:48 AM

manipulating the numbers to make his point...NOW I UNDERSTAND WHY WE'RE HAVING SO MANY PROBLEMS !!!!!!!!

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Jan 5, 2012, 5:03 PM



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