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Steele: Missed tackles and missed assignments hurt defense during scrimmage
Aug 15, 2010, 2:37 PM
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Sounds like the ACC Championship game again***
Aug 15, 2010, 4:29 PM
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And the USuC game.***
Aug 15, 2010, 7:27 PM
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Nice to have a new name mentioned at linebacker.***
Aug 15, 2010, 5:12 PM
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Steele's claim of 2.3 YPC is hard to fathom.
Aug 15, 2010, 5:24 PM
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Steele claimed that, outside of 2 big runs, his defense held the rushing attack to 2.3 yards per carry. But that's hard for me to grasp.
McDowell went 12-for-127 for 10.6 YPC. But even if you take away his 12yd TD and his 53-yard run, that’s still an average of 6.2 YPC.
Buice went 10-for-36. That’s 3.6 YPC.
Ellington went 5-for-24. That’s 4.8 YPC.
Harper went 8-24. That's 3 YPC.
The article only mentions one big 53-yard run. But even if you assume that there were TWO 53-yard runs, that would still be 3.2 YPC from the aforementioned four RBs.
Maybe Steele’s claim of 2.3YPC includes big sacks (counted as rushing losses) and a bunch of weak runs by some newbie/walk-on RBs or something? It sure doesn’t look like the defense had much success stopping McDowell, Buice, Ellington, or Harper. And I assume some of the scrimmage situations were goal-line, where the RBs couldn't have run for more than a yard or three anyway. Kinda scary in light of how SCar, GT ran all over us at the end of last season.
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Do you just TRY to be trouble maker? The article
Aug 15, 2010, 5:27 PM
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clearly says Rod ran against the twos. Get a life, will ya?
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Doesn't explain the 2.3 YPC. If you don't know, don't reply
Aug 15, 2010, 7:15 PM
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Your reply makes no sense. The article says nothing about which RBs ran against the ones or the twos. You provide no explanation of how Steele gets to 2.3 YPC, when EVERY RB THAT I LISTED ran for more than 2.3 YPC. Obvously, it's mathematically possible with two long runs but that wasn't mentioned in the article. So if you have no stats and no logical explanation, then PLEASE don't feel any need to reply with non-answers and childish insults. I was really hoping that somebody with some actual knowledge would respond with some actual data so that I could gain a better understanding.
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Shocking you bring up "logic"...
Aug 15, 2010, 8:05 PM
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...when the entire point of relative panic about these numbers is not logical.
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Panic? Nice reading comprehension skills.
Aug 15, 2010, 10:06 PM
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You too have no data and no logical explanation for the point that I raised about the YPC numbers. So instead, for some reason you feel compelled to reply with childish insults. Amazing.
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Considering that every one of your posts...
Aug 16, 2010, 8:38 AM
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...is only about how something in our football camp must be some kind of cover up/not admitting where we have issues or some other such nonsense...it is apparent that you are panicking about it.
But hey, keep looking for answers from closed practices where if one thing goes well you must assume the other side is terrible or coaches aren't "admitting everything".
Keep it up, you're amusing.
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I'm talking about the article that gives a summary of the
Aug 16, 2010, 7:23 AM
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scrimmage. You ARE allowed to apply info from one article to interpret another. Makes perfect sense.
What also makes sense is you always try your best to spin things as negatively as possible.
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I read the articles. Neither explains it. Nor did you, AGAIN***
Aug 16, 2010, 3:43 PM
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Razz, it might be because I'm exhausted...
Aug 15, 2010, 7:54 PM
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... but I'm not understanding your math. If there were TWO long runs, that would INCREASE the YPCs, right? Maybe I'm not understanding how you're basing the question. You'd have to know how many total running plays there were to calculate the YPC. And unless I missed something, we don't know that number. You site 35 plays. I'm assuming there were about twice as many as that in a 2 hour scrimmage. But not 100% sure. But you're right, 2.3 does seem like a low number based on what we DO know.
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Chill! It's all fluff until you spot the #### ball!
Aug 15, 2010, 8:25 PM
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Relax, youngsters, and try to understand that until the season starts, you don't know a #### thing about your team.
Go Tigers! Fight! Win!
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^^^^This guy is awesome.
Aug 15, 2010, 9:35 PM
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Re: Razz, it might be because I'm exhausted...
Aug 15, 2010, 9:39 PM
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If I interpreted Steele correctly, it seems that he was saying that if you disregard two (presumably busted assignment) long runs, then the 1st team defense held the offense to 2.3 YPC. For example, if on 5 rushing attempts, the 1st team defense held the offense to runs of 50 yards, 50 yards, 2 yards, 2 yards, & 3 yards, then if you disregard the two long runs, the defense would have averaged 2.3 YPC.
Of course if one were to include the two long runs (as would normally be the case) then the defense apparently allowed a higher YPC, which neither Steele, nor this article precisely explains, hence my puzzlement.
Based on the numbers provided in the article, it's kinda hard to figure how they got to 2.3 YPC. It would be fun to see the detailed stats.
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1st String D was who the 2.3 YPC applies to*******
Aug 15, 2010, 11:20 PM
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2.3 vs The Attack--- The Attack is the name of the 1st team
Aug 16, 2010, 7:42 AM
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defense--- the writer should have capitalized it. The Swarm is the name of the 2nd team D.
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Re: Steele's claim of 2.3 YPC is hard to fathom.
Aug 16, 2010, 8:41 AM
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Steele's claim was the 1st team D had a 2.3yp average. Mcdowell did his damage against the 2nd unit. Just to help clear it up.
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Re: Steele's claim of 2.3 YPC is hard to fathom.
Aug 16, 2010, 2:30 PM
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"What we have here is a failure to communicate".
Steele is wrong to take only the stats that he wants to use and make some prideful statement about how they only allowed 2.3 ypc - which is speaking "with forked tongue" since he just finished saying that he didn't want to make excuses. Pick your side Steele and man up. The D pretty much stunk it up - Dabo was nice about it - just deal with it.
Having said that - stats are what they are - STATS. Give me some numbers and I'll twist them, bend them, and basically beat them into anything that you want to hear. What Steel did was a crime against STATS and he should be sorry to ever had done that. Dabo needs to call him on that. Do NOT ever do that again.
We all know that a D that missing 2 key starters makes all the difference int he world - so just chill - the D is still our strongest unit until I actually see the O do something in a game.
Can't we all just get along? lol - We're going to be fine. Let's just hope our O somehow shows up this year. They appear to have some life - so let's wait and enjoy.
BTW: Anyone on the O shouldn't get too over-confident just yet. A single scrimmage against a weakened D isn't impressing anyone - so get over it already.
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I just happy that easily predictable bubble screens are gone
Aug 16, 2010, 7:04 AM
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from the playbook.
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Re: I just happy that easily predictable bubble screens are gone
Aug 16, 2010, 8:09 AM
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Oh, I imagine they still are in there. Hopefully, they don't get run too much, so they are not predictable like when Spence was here.
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"gotta"? "kinda"?***
Aug 16, 2010, 10:49 AM
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