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Question about transfers and sitting out a year
Feb 11, 2019, 7:54 AM
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I mentioned this in another thread but I am sure it got buried and not read.
I know coaches do not have to sit if they change programs and the student-athletes do, but aren't the coaches more an exception to the norm? Every job I have had after Clemson I signed an intellectual property and non-compete agreement. If I leave my company I cannot do this again for a year. I effectively "sit out" a year. And yes my current company has enforced it on a marketing rep that left a few years back.
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Every job I have had paid me money***
Feb 11, 2019, 8:00 AM
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and football players at least, are now paid a stipend***
Feb 11, 2019, 8:01 AM
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Re: Every job I have had paid me money***
Feb 11, 2019, 9:34 AM
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CLEMSON provides most everything else, but the players have to BYOG.
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Probably not as much as football players are paid though
Feb 11, 2019, 2:21 PM
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Scholarship stipend room and board is a lot more than just the 34000 a year tuition
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Re: Question about transfers and sitting out a year
Feb 11, 2019, 8:03 AM
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In my jurisdiction a non-compete is cannot be enforced. They put it in contracts as most will assume it can be enforced so they won’t bother going to a competitor, but if you fight it then you will win.
In the case of players/coaches, I agree there should be consistency. I assume a coach under contract needs approval from the team to leave or they negotiate a clause in the contract to give the coach the power of choice. Players do not have the same representation and therefore follow the rules placed upon them by the NCAA system.
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Re: Question about transfers and sitting out a year
Feb 11, 2019, 8:03 AM
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If a coach is fired and paid a buyout, then I assume that is the "penalty", although that affects the school more than the coach. If a coach was in a high paying contract and vluntarily left to take another job, I am not sure how that would work.
Not college, but I know in the NFL Bruce Arians left the Cardinals and basically had to "sit out" last year before being able to sign with the Bucs since he had left a contract.
However I know Chad Morris had signed a large contract extension with SMU and then left the next year for Arkansas, so I'm not sure how that was allowed...
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Re: Question about transfers and sitting out a year
Feb 11, 2019, 9:44 AM
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In the case of Morris and most mid major coaches, I believe they make sure to write into their contract that they can only leave for a "step up" job.
Morris would not have been able to leave for another mid major head coaching position.
SMU most likely also wrote in that Morris could not leave for an OC position at any school.
I have heard of that before as well.
I believe our coordinators have it written into their contracts that leaving for another coordinator position requires the next school to pay some sort of buy-out.
I'm not positive on that but have heard that mentioned before.
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Re: Question about transfers and sitting out a year
Feb 11, 2019, 9:52 AM
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It's usually done with buyouts. If a coach leaves for another program there is a buyout that the coach or new school has to pay that will allow the coach to coach immediately. In most cases that's for a lateral move. For example head coach to head coach position. Where as if say a Defensive Coordinator leaves for a head coaching position then that does not apply. Now remember back when Danny Ford left. He was not allowed to coach anywhere else until his contact was completed at Clemson. So he went initially to Arkansas as a advisor. While Clemson paid his salary for the next I think 3 years. If he would've started coaching before that 3 years were up Clemson would no longer have to pay him and he would've ended up having to pay something back. I believe they did the same thing to Tommy Bowden when he left. He decided to go into broadcasting instead of coaching and We had to pay the remaining portion of his contract.
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Re: Question about transfers and sitting out a year
Feb 11, 2019, 1:52 PM
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Most noncompete clauses can't be enforced.
If you did sign one, why would you possibly do that?
Where does your company get engineers when they hire experienced talent?
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Our non-compete is more for our marketing people
Feb 11, 2019, 2:15 PM
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to keep them from trying to take their sales contacts with them. We had one try to just to do just that and they enforced the non-compete on him.
It didn't really affect me the way it was written as an engineer which is why I didn't mind signing it but was just saying it does exist.
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