Re: One thing that is interesting about the Bible

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Jun 4, 2019, 11:54 AM

After Israel was delivered by God from 400 years of slavery at the hand of Egypt they sought to compensate God for their freedom, they wanted to show Him how thankful they were for what He'd done for them. They ask Him to give them laws which they would obey so they could live up to His standard.

He did not initiate Levitical Law they invited it. Why? They wanted to prove they deserved God's grace. Pride. The fact is that man can not live to God's standard which is holy. That statement is only offensive to the prideful which includes all of us.

Your statement that Abraham, Moses, Joshua, and King David aren't considered as heroes is quite wrong. I believe you consider your statement true due to a misconception that anyone who is flawed can not be a hero and anyone who points out a hero's fault does not consider him a hero at all. We have totally different perspectives on that.

Our differences are also accentuated in your understanding of what Christ was saying to the man who called Him good. Let's look at the conversation as recorded by Matthew.

Chpt 19 vs 16-17

16 And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life?

17 And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

Christ knew the man did not believe He was the Savior. Christ, therefor, told him, in fact, to obey the law which his ancestors sought and got in order to prove their worthiness.

That is the entire point of Christ function and purpose on earth. To give Himself as propitiation for our sin, a sacrifice of one who was innocent to cover the sin of the guilty. God Himself took on the flesh of man and gave his own life to save you. If you believe, as did the man in the verses, that Christ is not God then you to are deciding to prove your worth by obeying Levitical Law.

How could the Old Testament present anyone without showing their faults if the Bible was intended to lead us all to Christ? If a man is perfect he does not need anything else to get to heaven.

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My point about those bible characters I listed was that most religions prop up their founders/prophets, whatever, where as the bible makes it a point to show their flaws in order to give the glory to their god. They are heroes because of their faith. The bible seems to report what was believed and known about these people honestly instead of building them up like Muslims do with Muhammad.

You are looking at what Jesus said through the lenses of someone who believes he is the messiah. I'm looking at it with a skeptical eye and just noting that it doesn't sound like something someone would make up. If I was writing centuries later trying to prove to people that Jesus was the son of god I certainly wouldn't have him saying that.

The bible is a fascinating book. However, I can see why people claim that the quickest way to become an atheist is by reading it. The stories, especially the Old Testament, seem strange and fanciful, but on the other hand, it is amazing that so many authors over so many centuries were able to put it together to tell one coherent story and there is plenty of archaeological/historical evidence that it is trustworthy when it comes to the people and places it names.

One thing that is interesting about the Bible